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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 24 June 2020 - 05:15 PM

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Why?

 

Crazy.

So few Heavies. 80ish..

Mediums. 70is

Lights 140ish

TD 90ish

SPG 150ish

 

 

 

16:19 Added after 3 minute

my current T7 game

 

2 heavies

2meds

3lights

2 spg

6 TDs.

 

Why does nobody want to play heavies????? I know!



NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 24 June 2020 - 05:22 PM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 24 June 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

Why does nobody want to play heavies????? I know!

 

I doubt it.



saurilian #3 Posted 24 June 2020 - 05:23 PM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 24 June 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

Why?

 

Crazy.

So few Heavies. 80ish..

Mediums. 70is

Lights 140ish

TD 90ish

SPG 150ish

 

 

 

16:19 Added after 3 minute

my current T7 game

 

2 heavies

2meds

3lights

2 spg

6 TDs.

 

Why does nobody want to play heavies????? I know!

 

It's not like I gave up playing heavies at tier X after getting myself only one tier X heavy. I really don't understand what you're talking about.

 

You're crazy. Why wouldn't you want to get gold spammed and spermed on by artillery? It's fun! 



Private_Miros #4 Posted 24 June 2020 - 05:27 PM

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LTs seem to have a soft cap at 6 in mid tiers and 4 in higher tiers. Arty has a hard cap on 3.

 

HTs and MTs and TDs don't seem to have a soft cap at all, but the MM takes what it can. MM also tries to make games with 0, 1 or 2 scouts and arty.

 

So yeah, lights and arty are in the waiting room longer.



LZ_Mordan #5 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:14 AM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 24 June 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

LTs seem to have a soft cap at 6 in mid tiers and 4 in higher tiers. Arty has a hard cap on 3.

 

HTs and MTs and TDs don't seem to have a soft cap at all, but the MM takes what it can. MM also tries to make games with 0, 1 or 2 scouts and arty.

 

So yeah, lights and arty are in the waiting room longer.

 

man no.. 

 

today every single game was full of TDS.. It was like always a majority of TD..

 

pure pain.. not fun to play. I am trying to do 6k damage and games are so [edited]campy and not enough HP for my 6k

 

why are people playing this shitty boring class?????? I am just playing it for the [edited]damn missions.. I HATE TDS. Worse than Arty.


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 25 June 2020 - 12:15 AM.


Kdingo #6 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:19 AM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 12:14 AM, said:

 

man no.. 

 

today every single game was full of TDS.. It was like always a majority of TD..

 

pure pain.. not fun to play. I am trying to do 6k damage and games are so [edited]campy and not enough HP for my 6k

 

why are people playing this shitty boring class?????? I am just playing it for the [edited]damn missions.. I HATE TDS. Worse than Arty.

 

Prem ammo noobs, disgusting td players, a bit less disgusting arty players, probably similar disgusting light tanks/wheelchair players.... hell is there even something you don't "hate" about the game?



Balc0ra #7 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:20 AM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 24 June 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

Why does nobody want to play heavies????? I know!

 

Tbh I don't play much heavies because of all the arty and lights etc. I don't play them much anymore, because they are one of the most boring class for me to play besides arty. Even when you have no arty and only one light on the enemy team, they offer little of fun on my end.

 

And most I know, do favor the more flexible medium and light style play vs the slow armored slugger style. And regardless of how you balance the classes... or remove one to fix it. One or two classes will still be way less popular vs the rest, and still face the same issue I'll bet.



WindSplitter1 #8 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:33 AM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 24 June 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

LTs seem to have a soft cap at 6 in mid tiers and 4 in higher tiers. Arty has a hard cap on 3.

 

HTs and MTs and TDs don't seem to have a soft cap at all, but the MM takes what it can. MM also tries to make games with 0, 1 or 2 scouts and arty.

 

So yeah, lights and arty are in the waiting room longer.

 

TDs is 7.

Throughout my experience, I am yet to see battles with 8 TDs and on Grand Battles for Tier VIII, they announced there would not be more than 7 TDs per side. Seems to take place in Randoms as well.

 



Gremlin182 #9 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:39 AM

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Maybe we should just get rid of heavy tanks, I mean the players really don't seem happy.

It would be a kindness to take away their pain.

Complain about SPGs Premium Ammo Wheeled Vehicles and now TDs. :)

 

I do agree though games with too many TDs can be boring.

Too many Heavies and Mediums isnt really a problem but the support classes yes it can be a problem.

 


Edited by Gremlin182, 25 June 2020 - 12:44 AM.


saxsan4 #10 Posted 25 June 2020 - 12:46 AM

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I dont know, too much arty in the game for my liking

 

I think because of missions , the spy ones take the longest



azakow #11 Posted 25 June 2020 - 06:19 AM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 12:14 AM, said:

 

man no.. 

 

today every single game was full of TDS.. It was like always a majority of TD..

 

pure pain.. not fun to play. I am trying to do 6k damage and games are so [edited]campy and not enough HP for my 6k

 

why are people playing this shitty boring class?????? I am just playing it for the [edited]damn missions.. I HATE TDS. Worse than Arty.

Try harder then!

There is lots of room for it.

:playing:

 

Maybe give up trying for good and have a real tank commander sit down at your keyboard.

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Space_Vato #12 Posted 25 June 2020 - 06:41 AM

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I only drive LT's so I can troll people who only fire prem ammo.       :trollface:

sid257 #13 Posted 25 June 2020 - 06:49 AM

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Op it’s a game.  You have a freedom to walk away and go do something else.

 

Quit with the negative vibes.



trispect #14 Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:28 AM

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As said already. Lights and SPG's have hard caps so they have to queue longer. That's why you can see more of them in the queue than other classes which will be matched faster.

Bordhaw #15 Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:46 AM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 24 June 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

Why?

 

Crazy.

So few Heavies. 80ish..

Mediums. 70is

Lights 140ish

TD 90ish

SPG 150ish

 

 

 

16:19 Added after 3 minute

my current T7 game

 

2 heavies

2meds

3lights

2 spg

6 TDs.

 

Why does nobody want to play heavies????? I know!


Two hours later its was over 250 for each class and totalling 840 in the whole queue with only 80,000 players.



Kartoshkaya #16 Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:47 AM

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People in this game like camping way too much, they also like to justify their camp by playing TD. Most of them are just affraid of actually fighting and shouldn't be allowed to press battle.

SuperOlsson #17 Posted 25 June 2020 - 10:37 AM

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If I play too much heavies and mediums eventually I get tired of the stale gameplay of getting artied. Driving a wheelie, finding a gap in the enemies defence line, then taking out 2-3 clickers on the other hand, that is pure fun!

Edited by SuperOlsson, 25 June 2020 - 10:38 AM.


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I play HTs like 277, which are a mixture of meduim/heavy tank. Those are fun to play, because they are flexible and by having a high average damage, they can be really fun to play with. 

Wz 5A, 277, 113 and 260 are absolutely fun to play because of their flexibility, and i would rather playing them over other HTs anytime. 

Mostly, i like playing MTs. :)



Gremlin182 #19 Posted 25 June 2020 - 11:04 AM

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There is a problem with matching like for like in the mm when it comes to TDs or at least many of the TDS.

A few can handle the assault role and move with other tank types fighing close in and around obstacles but not all.

They are designed for ambush tactics stay back and take out enemy tanks as they approach.

There is nothing wrong with that in the game its playing sensibly and using the terrain cleverly and setting up a kill zone.

 

It often fails though for 2 reasons.

Your other team mates decide to push on and take the fight somewhere else which usually means they run into the enemy TDs and probably SPGs who have set up their ambush.

Thats the other problem both teams have almost identical lineups so both set up ambushes.

 

You call it camping and I call it playing my tank to its strengths.

Lets see I have no armour no turret and a poor gun arc.

If I drive around that rock and fight the enemy tanks I am dead in seconds and a noob.

If I stay back use my great camouflage and accurate gun I am a camper.

 

We can all see both teams lineups at the start and what we have to work with and play against should decide how we play out that battle.

6 TDs per side well unless they are assault TDs its going to be a game of camping and ambushes and its up to both teams to work with that.

Its random battles and no one is going to make the nasty TDs and SPGs go away so "normal" tanks can have more fun.

War is hell and so occasionally is WOT


Edited by Gremlin182, 25 June 2020 - 11:06 AM.


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View PostSuperOlsson, on 25 June 2020 - 09:37 AM, said:

If I play too much heavies and mediums eventually I get tired of the stale gameplay of getting artied. Driving a wheelie, finding a gap in the enemies defence line, then taking out 2-3 clickers on the other hand, that is pure fun!

 

I don't often play heavies anymore, I tried using support heavies last night Patriot, Caern and a few others. The experience was beyond bad, the speed of the game, the sheer number of arties per game, lack of real armour vs the gold spam, the td nests making pushes suicides. The introduction of the superheavies ruined the balance of the game especially the +2/-2 being in a Maus top tier is too much being in a Maurbreacher ( or whatever its called ) bottom tier is dire. 

 

The additional issue its caused is most standard heavy armour is near pointless as so many players are spamming gold.

 

I looked through my extensive garage after the session and did a quick headcount of my available tanks and how many are enjoyable/viable in current meta and its pretty bleak.

 

The game is now too focused on camping, waiting for an enemy team to push. It's more about playing on the enemies mistakes than being positive and taking the battle to the enemy. This meta will kill the game in the longterm.

 

 






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