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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 25 June 2020 - 02:01 PM

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So its WG annivesary and i got the 3rd key.

 

I spent BP to skip T28  proto...

 

Bought the T30, Free xp the track.. equip the top gun from T95. 2 skills crew.. rammer, gun laying drive, binoc.

 

13 games. potato level of damage average 1000, 27% WR.

 

This tank utterly sucks. I knew it. Because whenever i see one on the battlefield, fear factor 5/10. The turret never works in practice with all the arty. Complete garbage in the meta. LOL.. GJ WG.

 

For comparison, Obj 704, 1750 avg dmg, 58% WR. T95 1698 56WR

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i got penned hulled down by a obj 257 full heat spam..

 

dead.

 

600 damage.



chainreact0r #2 Posted 25 June 2020 - 02:07 PM

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Your result seems to be exactly what it should be.

T30 takes a couple of neurons to play properly as opposed to the press 'w' of the T95 and the 'kemp bush' of the 704.

While it's not the best of the best, it's a really strong and fun to play tank. I kept mine and i still play it from time to time. It's way better than the E4 tier for tier.



Balc0ra #3 Posted 25 June 2020 - 02:13 PM

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As you said in a different topic... Some tanks just don't click.

TungstenHitman #4 Posted 25 June 2020 - 02:43 PM

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It can feel out of meta at times yes, especially the way many A-R and A-L have such amazing combinations of speed and gun handling which secretly disguise the fact they're chucking out over 1k of alpha in sneaky smaller alpha stages of a rapid firing mag. So if you were to play the T9 Skoda or Standard-B you would be banging for more alpha it just takes a few seconds to get all that alpha out of the pipe only you have a fast high camo and highly flexible machine with fast turrets and traverse and aim time too by comparison so you when you play the T30 you can get a string of unfavorable battles with unfortunate accuracy and RNG enough to make it feel really dated and not worth bothering with. But it only takes one mega 7k battle to make it all forgiven again and at the end of the day its a big alpha tank with with a pretty reliable turret, good gun dep and most these maps are tailored for hull down tanks so it still has it's relevance.  

Edited by TungstenHitman, 25 June 2020 - 02:45 PM.


tajj7 #5 Posted 25 June 2020 - 02:48 PM

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Nope, you are flat out wrong. 

 

You just don't know how to play it, it's one of the strongest tier 9 TDs easily. 



NekoPuffer_PPP #6 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:01 PM

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Oh yeah, absolutely, the tank's the problem, not anybody else.

 

My stats:


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Maybe it's because you're playing it like a heavy tank? 

TungstenHitman #8 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:15 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 June 2020 - 01:48 PM, said:

Nope, you are flat out wrong. 

 

You just don't know how to play it, it's one of the strongest tier 9 TDs easily. 

 

Ya but that wouldn't be hard when you consider there's not many T9 TD's and most are crap or awkward as F. That's not to argue the point it's just worth considering the TD competition it's held against ain't great lol. 

 

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 June 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Oh yeah, absolutely, the tank's the problem, not anybody else.

 

My stats:

 

And you've said yourself these stats are years old which would mean it was achieved during a period of WoT without all the OP T8 race car tanks like Progetto's and Burlesques etc and before the influx of so many newer nations tanks that feature a lot more dangerous and faster higher tiers and also before all the broken and OP reward and clan tanks etc. I'm sure one of the old guards like the T30 had a much better time of it back then but it can feel a little bit dated on certain occasions against some of the newer era tanks no doubt about it. And your average damage is basically just 3 shots. I only average a little bit more damage myself but the winrate is 57% and not 63% which I would pretty much put down to battles in which if there was no EBR 105 or Italian stallion or rail gun tanks I know I would have won which would have been back years ago and not now. So your self admitted years old T30 stats are worth nothing other than a history lesson.

 

 



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 June 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

Oh yeah, absolutely, the tank's the problem, not anybody else.

 

My stats:

 

Yes weak tonk please buff.

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NekoPuffer_PPP #10 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:35 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 25 June 2020 - 03:15 PM, said:

And you've said yourself these stats are years old which would mean it was achieved during a period of WoT without all the OP T8 race car tanks like Progetto's and Burlesques etc and before the influx of so many newer nations tanks that feature a lot more dangerous and faster higher tiers and also before all the broken and OP reward and clan tanks etc. I'm sure one of the old guards like the T30 had a much better time of it back then but it can feel a little bit dated on certain occasions against some of the newer era tanks no doubt about it. And your average damage is basically just 3 shots. I only average a little bit more damage myself but the winrate is 57% and not 63% which I would pretty much put down to battles in which if there was no EBR 105 or Italian stallion or rail gun tanks I know I would have won which would have been back years ago and not now. So your self admitted years old T30 stats are worth nothing other than a history lesson.

 

3 shots average is enough when it's 750 a pop. Tier 9/10 heavy tank hit point equivalent. Dealing one whole tank's worth of damage on average is a good result, you're at least carrying your own weight in a match.

 

Doing that in a tank as flexible* as the T30 is easy enough, just don't get caught alone. Stick to your teammates, otherwise your reload will be your death.

 

* - TD/heavy



LZ_Mordan #11 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 June 2020 - 01:48 PM, said:

Nope, you are flat out wrong. 

 

You just don't know how to play it, it's one of the strongest tier 9 TDs easily. 

 

[edited]boring to play yea.. 

 

i play it like a heavy and it sucks. penned all the time.

 

I don't bush camp with 704.. i am kinda active... more active than this POS.

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tried again..

 

pathetic.. snipe in base.. ebr comes and rapes this POS T30 [edited]... 1300 dmg loss.


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 25 June 2020 - 03:51 PM.


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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 03:44 PM, said:

 

[edited]boring to play yea.. 

 

i play it like a heavy and it sucks. penned all the time.

 

I don't bush camp with 704.. i am kinda active... more active than this POS.

 No wonder you are doing badly playing it like a heavy with its poor front hull armour. I haven't done the best in mine (compared with how I played in the JTiger) but you cant be the front line vehicle, be a bit more cautious, the gun is great for peak-a-boom tactics which this tank excells at. If you want to be more active plya a medium or a light tank. 

 

Sounds revolutionary but the best tanks to play like a heavy tank are heavy tanks 

 



LZ_Mordan #13 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:52 PM

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i have ZERO fun playing stupid TD in general..

 

Arty is more fun than those dumb idiots tanks.

 

Only playing for this stupid 6k dmg mission.

 

[edited]i hate this class..

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next. game. 8 TDs,, [edited]8 TDs for 2 heavies.. WTF!!!!!!!

 

 



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

Only playing for this stupid 6k dmg mission.

 

Hate to break it to ya, but if you're this clumsy in the T30, the E4 won't make that mission any easier.



LZ_Mordan #15 Posted 25 June 2020 - 03:57 PM

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how am i going to do 6k when everyone is camping
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first game without arty. i did 3k damage but loss vs 8 TDs

arthurwellsley #16 Posted 25 June 2020 - 04:00 PM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 02:57 PM, said:

how am i going to do 6k when everyone is camping

 

Personally I did the 6k damage mission in a tier VIII TD, and thus with a harder hitting TD playing in games with more HP I would have thought it rather easier.

 

Whilst I will disagree with tajj7 that the T30 is the best of the tier IX TDs it is most certainly one of the better ones as it has a fully rotating turret.

 

Merely because LZ_Mordan has zero clue how to play it does not make it bad.



Rainbowkiss83 #17 Posted 25 June 2020 - 04:06 PM

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I prefer to face a conway than a t.30 sincerely
But yes, compared to t.95 is not so well performing if you play aggressive from wht i've seen from other people

LZ_Mordan #18 Posted 25 June 2020 - 04:16 PM

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another game. another 6td for 2 heavies.

 

edit.

 

another game. another 6td for 3 heavies.

 


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 25 June 2020 - 04:30 PM.


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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 25 June 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

i have ZERO fun playing stupid TD in general..

 

Arty is more fun than those dumb idiots tanks.

 

Only playing for this stupid 6k dmg mission.

 

[edited]i hate this class..

 

So it's the class they need to buff. Not the T30?



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My 3rd most fun tier 9 tank.




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