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saxsan4 #21 Posted 30 June 2020 - 07:16 AM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 30 June 2020 - 06:12 AM, said:

yeah right, lol.

your points of e3 being so great are valid only if you camp a corridor with perfect hulldown position, i already said that.

you dont have any of them, so there is no point do discuss anything with you, as your opinions about actual gameplay of them are made out of thin air.


no, also in cities and in most maps where there is a corridor of cover e3 will be better

 

For example on Paris an e3 is perfect to be brawling with the heavies

 

and E4 will be easy to kill since you have  many more week spots 

 

My experience is based on talking to my clan who have both and how easy it is to kill e4s compared to e3 AND by looking at the statistics so I am the only one looking at it properly not using bias. 



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View Postno_skill_bob, on 29 June 2020 - 07:23 PM, said:

quite the opposite - does e3 have a turret? 

ok let me put it in an another way, bad players be better off having e3, as they cant make a use of a huge advantage that turret gives.

Ah yes, the fabled turret for which you pay with garbage gun handling, dpm, mobility, armor, camo and hp. But hey, it also has a lot of pen. Totally worth.

The tank doesn't have anything going for it. I agree it's pretty good at playing peak-a-boo, but that is pretty much it. You can't snipe, you can't outtrade very often, you only bounce shots from muppets, and imho the worst thing about it is that abysmal gun handling which is the result of having a turret. I have the bounty gld, food, bia, all the good stuff and it stil aims in 3 million years.

 

So yeah, when i have enough time to aim(almost never) it's nice to pen heavies in the mantlet, but other than, that the E-100 is significantly better overall, and that is saying a lot. The tank is only useful for bots who don't know what good gun handling is and who spam HE like donkeys. I guess you like it cause it's kind of an underdog, and since the TD slot in a team is usually occupied by a window licker you have a bigger impact with good positioning etc, although i can't understand how you tolerate the gun handling.

However, telling other people the tank is anything but trash just because you like it is not ok. People need objective truths.



no_skill_bob #23 Posted 30 June 2020 - 08:07 AM

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View Postchainreact0r, on 30 June 2020 - 08:17 AM, said:

Ah yes, the fabled turret for which you pay with garbage gun handling, dpm, mobility, armor, camo and hp. But hey, it also has a lot of pen. Totally worth.

The tank doesn't have anything going for it. I agree it's pretty good at playing peak-a-boo, but that is pretty much it. You can't snipe, you can't outtrade very often, you only bounce shots from muppets, and imho the worst thing about it is that abysmal gun handling which is the result of having a turret. I have the bounty gld, food, bia, all the good stuff and it stil aims in 3 million years.

 

So yeah, when i have enough time to aim(almost never) it's nice to pen heavies in the mantlet, but other than, that the E-100 is significantly better overall, and that is saying a lot. The tank is only useful for bots who don't know what good gun handling is and who spam HE like donkeys. I guess you like it cause it's kind of an underdog, and since the TD slot in a team is usually occupied by a window licker you have a bigger impact with good positioning etc, although i can't understand how you tolerate the gun handling.

However, telling other people the tank is anything but trash just because you like it is not ok. People need objective truths.

lol. and yet you perform better in e4 than you do in e3? to be honest at first i didnt even think its worth answering, after a statement that e100  is better than e4.

ok, so im a bot spamming hHE with e4 while you sucl even with apcr.

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View Postsaxsan4, on 30 June 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:


no, also in cities and in most maps where there is a corridor of cover e3 will be better

 

For example on Paris an e3 is perfect to be brawling with the heavies

 

and E4 will be easy to kill since you have  many more week spots 

 

My experience is based on talking to my clan who have both and how easy it is to kill e4s compared to e3 AND by looking at the statistics so I am the only one looking at it properly not using bias. 

yes you can hold your corner for whole battle, i wil just go somewhere else, sure if you have muppets driving in front of hulldown e3 all day long, then you will have one good battle.


Edited by no_skill_bob, 30 June 2020 - 08:12 AM.


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View Postno_skill_bob, on 30 June 2020 - 08:07 AM, said:

lol. and yet you perform better in e4 than you do in e3? to be honest at first i didnt even think its worth answering, after a statement that e100  is better than e4.

ok, so im a bot spamming hHE with e4 while you sucl even with apcr.

Ah yes, the E3 which i used for 279 blocking missions and with which i still have 30% higher winrate or whatever, while also having 20 battles with each iirc, so that's useless data. I never compared the E3 to the E4 in the first place anyway.

 

The E-100 is objectively better in every way except the pen. And then there is also the 60TP which is also way better than the E-100 except the pen. The problem is that they occupy a heavy slot in the MM which kind of balances out with the fact that the E4 is weaker but occupies a weaker slot.

 

I never said you are a HE spamming bot. I said that you most likely like the tank cause it's an underdog, and bots who don't know how to play the game use HE cause it's more effective than it should be. Doing 500 dmg with a 750 alpha gun while autoaiming at the thickest armor is mind-boggingly stupid..



Kdingo #25 Posted 30 June 2020 - 09:40 AM

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110e4 is a great tank for people like me that are allergic to having no turret and don't trust in armor anyways.
Turret allows for peekabo shenanigans, something you can't do without.
Good tank for opportunistic players, when the enemy is busy feeding on a teammate, "schneiii" 750 in the face.

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View Postsaxsan4, on 30 June 2020 - 07:02 AM, said:

 

E3 is better for randoms as well as I made multiple points in my post

 

care to discuss why E3 has much better gun as well as armour

 

I was tring to do the block 2 times your hp in obj 268 v 4 so had a lot of games where I wasn't shooting so I can soak up dmg

 

I have t28 prototype

 

 

I dont seal club

 

anymore questions?

 

E3 might be better for farming dmg, then again some of us play for the win ;)



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My only problem with E4 is bad gun depression especially coming after T30. 

With better depression it would be perfect for me.



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The E4 is quite a capable heavy tank actually and the premium ammo will take care of even the most Russian armor in the game.

 

The dispersion on turret rotation is horrible but just play it up close where that hardly matters.

 

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View PostCobra6, on 30 June 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:

 

The dispersion on turret rotation is horrible but just play it up close where that hardly matters.

 

Up close where the hp, armor, mobility and depression combo is vastly inferior to anything you meet and where the only advantage, aka high pen, is close to irrelevant?



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Eh its not that good, its slow and has no armor at all, gun isn't that accurate and quite derpy , honestly you can play a 60TP and do way better than E4

no_skill_bob #31 Posted 30 June 2020 - 02:26 PM

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View PostKdingo, on 30 June 2020 - 10:40 AM, said:

110e4 is a great tank for people like me that are allergic to having no turret and don't trust in armor anyways.
Turret allows for peekabo shenanigans, something you can't do without.
Good tank for opportunistic players, when the enemy is busy feeding on a teammate, "schneiii" 750 in the face.

too bad i didnt have a chance to witness the time when e4 had the same armor as e3 lol, i guess at that time there was 0 discussion of which are better.


Edited by no_skill_bob, 30 June 2020 - 02:46 PM.


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E4 has awful cupola. 

splash_time #33 Posted 30 June 2020 - 02:47 PM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 30 June 2020 - 04:26 PM, said:

too bad i didnt have a chance to witness the time when e4 had the same armor as e3 lol, i guess at that time there was 0 discussion of which are better.

 

So you mean it has been nerfed? :amazed:

Damn, i wish I've could check how it was back then.



no_skill_bob #34 Posted 30 June 2020 - 04:21 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 30 June 2020 - 03:47 PM, said:

 

So you mean it has been nerfed? :amazed:

Damn, i wish I've could check how it was back then.

i think it was like that for one patch only, when they first introduced murican tds in 2012.

its hard to imagine, but even back when i started playing, foch 155 and obj 268 were one of the strongest tanks around, alongside with prenerf deathstar.


Edited by no_skill_bob, 30 June 2020 - 04:23 PM.


Hechaton #35 Posted 30 June 2020 - 04:27 PM

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One of the worst tier X tanks. Good luck.

Japualtah #36 Posted 30 June 2020 - 05:11 PM

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E4 was nerfed a long time ago, wasn't it?

 

Today it's a bad tank but I still enjoy taking it for a spin, supporting my son in a heavy.

It's fun at times, would be good with a decent gun.


Edited by Japualtah, 30 June 2020 - 05:20 PM.


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View PostGodTank2, on 30 June 2020 - 12:36 PM, said:

Eh its not that good, its slow and has no armor at all, gun isn't that accurate and quite derpy , honestly you can play a 60TP and do way better than E4

 

yeah but I'd have to make it through another techtree from absolute 0 and my grind to E4 looks like this:

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Made it to T25/2 when I was playing 6 years ago. For the good old mighty Hellcat. 

 

I'm really tired of grinding and I feel at certain skill level, I can have fun in almost any tank anyway so there is no need for me to grind through the horrendous "siemka kto pl" techtree. 

 

I'm at peak of my World of Tanks carrer. I just want to sit back and enjoy what I've got. There is no f*cking way I'll get myself to play the shi*ty a*s handicaped stock tanks again, especially the polish ones [content removed]

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View PostHechaton, on 30 June 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

One of the worst tier X tanks. Good luck.

 

Why did you play like 700 battles in it then?

 

 

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no_skill_bob #38 Posted 30 June 2020 - 06:40 PM

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View PostJapualtah, on 30 June 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

E4 was nerfed a long time ago, wasn't it?

 

Today it's a bad tank but I still enjoy taking it for a spin, supporting my son in a heavy.

It's fun at times, would be good with a decent gun.

the only reason its not been buffed, its a very fine line for such tanks between UP and OP, as it is now, its neither.

we all know what happened after fv4005 buff, i played it myself for td 15-4 as well, sure it didnt have top speed or armor, but having gun depression with 180 degrees turret traverse and better mobility than most heavies with 1850 alpha, well who would of though that it would become a bit too good.


Edited by no_skill_bob, 30 June 2020 - 06:42 PM.





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