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Vatican_Tank_Corps #1 Posted 01 July 2020 - 04:29 PM

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Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Walker bulldog the light? It's not a story the WG would tell you. It is a WoT legend. 

 

Walker Bulldog was tier7 american light tank, with autoloader so powerful, and view range so good, it could use its autoloader to flank enemies, and its view range to influence battles. It had such great ammount of ammo in its clip, it could even keep its teammates it cared about from dying. 

 

WG balance department is pathway to many abilities, some consider to be unnatural.

 

And if you would wonder what happened to it.

 

Apparently, according WG balance, it became so powerful, the only thing it was afraid of, was losing its power, which eventually happened. Unfortunately, it taught WG about cheap way how to make premium tanks, and its premium clone killed it.

 

Ironic. It could save others from dying, but not itself.

 

Like seriously, what is this gun on the old non-premium bulldog. First they reduced clip size, then removed autoloader completely, and then they just copypaste the tank to make ROC bulldog that is "very surprisingly" better. But I guess its because the ROC version is the modernized version of standart M41 so that is very good explanation why the non-premium sucks right.

 

 

 


Edited by Pathethicc_Noob, 01 July 2020 - 04:32 PM.


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Solstad1069 #3 Posted 01 July 2020 - 04:41 PM

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Just like they have done to many tanks over time. I sold mine the day they removed the 10 shot autoloader, like i sold my ELC the day they nerfed the mobility.
No point playing out of meta tanks. Its kind of how the game is, and makes sure people sell/grind/use credits/use gold.

Balc0ra #4 Posted 01 July 2020 - 04:42 PM

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Tbh, if it had the same clip on tier 8 facing tier 6. He could solo half the HT lane. As he had enough to kill an IS-3 if every shot did pen. That worked fine when it was never top tier. Kinda insane with the MM it sees today. Tho... a lower round variant would ofc work. As in 5 etc vs 10. But WG wanted that line to be the non-clip gun line. So even the T37 lost his mini clip gun.

Vatican_Tank_Corps #5 Posted 01 July 2020 - 04:44 PM

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Like the single-shot gun would not be that problem, if it was on the same or similar level of the ROC bulldog. 

OniichanSenpai #6 Posted 01 July 2020 - 05:02 PM

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Oh what a coincidence that You forgot to show the premium ones have a worse mobility.

Vatican_Tank_Corps #7 Posted 01 July 2020 - 05:12 PM

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Yes that really compensate it for such a big barn LT, its suddenly all balanced.

24doom24 #8 Posted 01 July 2020 - 05:19 PM

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View PostPathethicc_Noob, on 01 July 2020 - 04:12 PM, said:

Yes that really compensate it for such a big barn LT, its suddenly all balanced.

You literally cut out the rest of the comparison where the M41D and Black Dog are mostly red :teethhappy:



Desyatnik_Pansy #9 Posted 01 July 2020 - 05:26 PM

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 July 2020 - 05:02 PM, said:

Oh what a coincidence that You forgot to show the premium ones have a worse mobility.

View Post24doom24, on 01 July 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

You literally cut out the rest of the comparison where the M41D and Black Dog are mostly red :teethhappy:

 

Full stats then :hiding::

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DeltaOperator #10 Posted 01 July 2020 - 05:36 PM

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WG likes to stomp Tech Tree tanks into the ground, nothing new.

Erwin_Von_Braun #11 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:01 PM

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Shame really - I think the Bulldawg with it's autoloader would be the perfect antidote to the wheeled plague.

Vatican_Tank_Corps #12 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:10 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 01 July 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

You literally cut out the rest of the comparison where the M41D and Black Dog are mostly red :teethhappy:

 

And still they are better than tech tree dog.. and post itself was more like a comparison of firepower, that surprisingly plays a huge role on scouts, as in current situations you have so many maps where you cannot spot or you can but its mostly useless, or you can spot to very limited extent. But your LT can still flank, snipe, support meds, ... with 175 pene on tier 8 and 170 apha with bad DPM. Then I just look at the ROC bulldog.

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 01 July 2020 - 05:01 PM, said:

Shame really - I think the Bulldawg with it's autoloader would be the perfect antidote to the wheeled plague.

 

Give it back the old nerf 6 shells for clip (was it 6 after first nerf right?), and I dont think this would be something OP. Then youD have alpha damage and HE bulldog, pene and DPM bulldog, and autoloader bulldog instead of editty bulldog.


Edited by Pathethicc_Noob, 01 July 2020 - 06:14 PM.


ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:21 PM

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In the great Light tank purge, WG balance committed many atrocities against light tanks, not even the lower tiered lights tanks where spared in the purge, aimed at destroying the entire class.


Nebuched #14 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:25 PM

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View PostPathethicc_Noob, on 01 July 2020 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

you have so many maps where you cannot spot or you can but its mostly useless, 

Well, outright lying is not a rule violation on this forum..



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View PostPathethicc_Noob, on 01 July 2020 - 05:10 PM, said:

 

And still they are better than tech tree dog.. and post itself was more like a comparison of firepower, that surprisingly plays a huge role on scouts, as in current situations you have so many maps where you cannot spot or you can but its mostly useless, or you can spot to very limited extent. But your LT can still flank, snipe, support meds, ... with 175 pene on tier 8 and 170 apha with bad DPM. Then I just look at the ROC bulldog.

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Give it back the old nerf 6 shells for clip (was it 6 after first nerf right?), and I dont think this would be something OP. Then youD have alpha damage and HE bulldog, pene and DPM bulldog, and autoloader bulldog instead of editty bulldog.

I must admit, I only recall a 10 shot clip, but I could be wrong.........:hiding:



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 01 July 2020 - 06:21 PM, said:

In the great Light tank purge, WG balance committed many atrocities against light tanks, not even the lower tiered lights tanks where spared in the purge, aimed at destroying the entire class.

Yet this forum complains "to many LT in matches".

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ZlatanArKung #17 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:49 PM

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View Postazakow, on 01 July 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Yet this forum complains "to many LT in matches".

:facepalm:

The came the dark times where WOT was ruled by Heavy tanks and armoured TDs.

But a rebellion sparked and gave hope to the game and their fight against WG balance.

The rebellion was lead by EBR 105 and his younger apprentices, and in the beginning their rule was seen as something good and a new start to a good and balanced era for WoT.

 

But after not to long time, their oppression became just as harsh and obvious as the oppression of the Heavies had been before them.



OniichanSenpai #18 Posted 01 July 2020 - 06:58 PM

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All of those tanks are crap to be honest, compared to my EBR 75.

Vatican_Tank_Corps #19 Posted 01 July 2020 - 07:20 PM

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View PostNebuched, on 01 July 2020 - 05:25 PM, said:

Well, outright lying is not a rule violation on this forum..

 

Because lights tanks are very usefull as scouts on - Himmelsdorf, Paris, Ensk, Abbey, Mountain pass, Overlord, Pilsen that offers very good gameplay on so called LT/medium line, Tundra. Just a few examples of maps where scouting as very important to win the battle.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 01 July 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:

Tbh, if it had the same clip on tier 8 facing tier 6. He could solo half the HT lane. As he had enough to kill an IS-3 if every shot did pen. That worked fine when it was never top tier. Kinda insane with the MM it sees today. Tho... a lower round variant would ofc work. As in 5 etc vs 10. But WG wanted that line to be the non-clip gun line. So even the T37 lost his mini clip gun.

 

That's the flaw with this reasoning.

 

An ISU-152 can two-shot an IS-3, and even with the HP changes, it can still one-shot many Tier VI vehicles. For some reason, people don't have problems with this. I can only wonder why.

 

But the Bulldog with the 10-shooter required a very cool head in order to make those 10 shots count. As in, you are in an LT with an LT gun. That gun was never accurate by LT standards, it required many shots to go through and RNG can still raise its voice to tell you this: "No".

 

It takes a lot more effort to connect and pen those 10 rounds in the IS-3 (and if somehow a player does manage that, the IS-3 driver made something seriously wrong, to allow a poorly armoured low durability vehicle to outplay his), while the ISU-152 can do so comfortably from the safety of a few bushes with only two shots.

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 01 July 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

The came the dark times where WOT was ruled by Heavy tanks and armoured TDs.

But a rebellion sparked and gave hope to the game and their fight against WG balance.

The rebellion was lead by EBR 105 and his younger apprentices, and in the beginning their rule was seen as something good and a new start to a good and balanced era for WoT.

 

But after not to long time, their oppression became just as harsh and obvious as the oppression of the Heavies had been before them.

 

For Steve, the IS-7 Driver, cannot relinquish his claim to the steel throne, has moved the Discipleship of Murazor to quell the Light netizens to their proper place, below the surface of the ground, staining their purity, with the promise of death.






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