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Semih_Dellal #1 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:14 PM

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The top gun of it did take a buff ?

Cause i remember it had 210 ap, 255 apcr pen. on it...now it says 248/310...

or maybe i am wrong...

 

is there a tanker who knows its gun stats history ??



Japualtah #2 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:18 PM

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You're correct.

My son is now grinding that line and I was flabbergasted when he told me the T54 gun stats.

Still a potato though, 0.4 dispersion is a joke.



Semih_Dellal #3 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:24 PM

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Wow...grinding throug T57...and thinking about to skip T54E1 with free exp. and blueprints (i had enough prints for it)...Now i can give it a try for at least 30-40 battles...

 

The current top gun seems quite workable...310 apcr should be enough in most situations...

 

But it's still a bad platform overall...at least for me...

 



Balc0ra #4 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:30 PM

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The pen on it was buffed when it changed from a medium to a HT last patch. As 210 pen on a tier 9 HT is not much to brag about. It trade some mobility ofc for that pen gain.

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Negativvv #5 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:51 PM

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The old pen was horrible, I used to run full gold with it and had ok success. 

 

Used to get really angry T7 and T8 kids message you after a game if you gold clipped them however...



no_skill_bob #6 Posted 01 July 2020 - 11:52 PM

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its the best change it could get, sure its a bit more on a slow side now, but it was never fast medium either, so i will take this gun over old one any day of the week, i mean it has same standard pen as it used to have on prem rounds, considering that its AP and not apcr.
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View PostNegativvv, on 02 July 2020 - 12:51 AM, said:

The old pen was horrible, I used to run full gold with it and had ok success. 

 

Used to get really angry T7 and T8 kids message you after a game if you gold clipped them however...

now you can gold clip super-heavies as well :D



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View Postno_skill_bob, on 01 July 2020 - 11:52 PM, said:

now you can gold clip super-heavies as well :D

 

That's what my T57 is for!!

 

The Autoloader US line was fairly good when I was noobs as I got the T71DA to keep, then the Autloader experience of the T69 then T54E1 (altho the less said about the T69 the better) and the T57 at the end so it gave a good variety of tanks. Ofc WG doesn't want that anymore and would rather railroad you into single play styles...



splash_time #8 Posted 02 July 2020 - 09:04 AM

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I'm waiting for the 5th of July to start grinding the line, I've already researched the T9, just waiting for the decent discounts and the missions to skip the "Stock grind".

the T69 however...i didn't hate it, i liked it because i manged to complete the 15th missions of Ace tanker for the USA/UK/Polish tanks twice, but the gun annoyed me a bit. I'm hoping for the T9 to be something better. :)

Any opinions about how it became now after the last patch changes? 


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MrClark56 #9 Posted 02 July 2020 - 09:31 AM

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Personally i love the since the change to HT. It has much more impact in battle now with this pen. Tier for tier i prefer it to the T57 heavy..

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View PostMrClark56, on 02 July 2020 - 09:31 AM, said:

Personally i love the since the change to HT. It has much more impact in battle now with this pen. Tier for tier i prefer it to the T57 heavy..

 

Changing T54E1 from medium to heavy was a nerf. And the tank was already pretty terrible.



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 July 2020 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

Changing T54E1 from medium to heavy was a nerf. And the tank was already pretty terrible.

Maybe it was a nerf... but that pen buff made the tank soo much better... at least for me.. now i can pen frontally when enemy tanks are reloading. It makes a big diff



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 July 2020 - 08:55 AM, said:

 

Changing T54E1 from medium to heavy was a nerf. And the tank was already pretty terrible.


Should have just got the pen/handling buff and be done with it. but they actually had the balls to nerf an aspect of a giant paper shed of a tank's mobility for no good reason.

 

Even if it kept its mobility it wouldent have been a good tank still. its fustrating to play.



Semih_Dellal #13 Posted 03 July 2020 - 12:13 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 July 2020 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

Changing T54E1 from medium to heavy was a nerf. And the tank was already pretty terrible.

Well the %99 of T54E1 users thinks it is buffed :D

Which means in reality...its a BUFF...not a NERF...



MrClark56 #14 Posted 04 July 2020 - 11:38 AM

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View PostSemih_Dellal, on 03 July 2020 - 12:13 AM, said:

Well the %99 of T54E1 users thinks it is buffed :D

Which means in reality...its a BUFF...not a NERF...

players who just used prem ammo on the tank will definitely see it as a nerf... because it changed from mt to ht and its mobility was nerfed. But for those who used more AP.. then the change was defo a buff... even if the mobility was nerfed. There is perspective in your opinion and mine. It is important to note that.



no_skill_bob #15 Posted 04 July 2020 - 01:53 PM

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View PostMrClark56, on 04 July 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:

players who just used prem ammo on the tank will definitely see it as a nerf... because it changed from mt to ht and its mobility was nerfed. But for those who used more AP.. then the change was defo a buff... even if the mobility was nerfed. There is perspective in your opinion and mine. It is important to note that.

nah, because even the premium ammo was trash on it, 255 apcr on a tier 9 medium, lol. while others have 330.



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View Postno_skill_bob, on 04 July 2020 - 12:53 PM, said:

nah, because even the premium ammo was trash on it, 255 apcr on a tier 9 medium, lol. while others have 330.

 

Lol compare with Standard B with 268 acpr as non-prem ammo  :teethhappy:



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I played 4 battles just now, i really havent played it a lot after it got changed to HT, as i 3marked it as a medium and didnt bother to play it much after that. i dont think that i have played more than 10-15 battles with it after it got changed. 

But whenever i do play it, i cant see any reason for complaints - gun is just waaay better than it was, tier for tier its better than t57ht now.

its hard not to do 3k+ with it now, unlike before gun changes.

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overall stats, from when it was a medium(at least 145 battles played as a med)

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mobility was never its strong side, i mean the top speed, it still has great power to weight :)

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Lol compare with Standard B with 268 acpr as non-prem ammo  :teethhappy:

why standard B? maybe go for leo straight away with 278(which again is higher than on e-50 prem rounds lol)



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View PostMrClark56, on 02 July 2020 - 10:12 AM, said:

Maybe it was a nerf... but that pen buff made the tank soo much better... at least for me.. now i can pen frontally when enemy tanks are reloading. It makes a big diff

And a huge gunhandling buff. All in all,  it becomes a T57 Heavy at T9.

More then the former which was some kind of thing in between a T69 and a T57 Heavy where you take bad parts of medium tank (low armour) and bad parts of heavy (rather slow) and then put in a big autoloader which is very devastating but misses alot.

 

I kind of liked the old T54E1 more due to it being more unique and different from other tanks then the current version of it.



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 July 2020 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

Changing T54E1 from medium to heavy was a nerf. And the tank was already pretty terrible.

 

It was not a good medium to begin with true. But even if it got a massive mobility nerf. The pen change made the gun more than workable. And I still play mine the same way, as it is more reliable in most situations. I've played mine a bit more of late. And I can't honestly complain as much about it as I did before.



frange #20 Posted 04 July 2020 - 11:22 PM

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Decided to use some blueprints to give the T54e1 a try after looking at it in the techtree for like 5 or 6 years but several times before getting stopped grinding due to the so badly powercreeped T69 litter box...

 

So bought the missy-54... Didnt have a spare US HT crew so recruited a fresh one, wasted a lot of crew books including the 850k XP from Battle Pass on the commander - so have 3/2 skilled crew with BIA now. And do have the Ram II, King Tiger C and the AE Phase 1 to keep on training the little boys,

 

Have played 2 matches so far (both losses but not catastrophic), using stock tracks and stock gun, with vents, vert stab and optics. Seems like the 54 is gonna have some potential at least. But one thing - to you always turn out to be the absolut clicker favourite snack when playing the 54?

Cause so far I have gotten constantly spammed by both clickers, in both matches without being the key pusher or top tier sitting in obvious spots...


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