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Two new American Tier VIII Mediums on the Supertest: T42 & T77


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Dwigt #1 Posted 02 July 2020 - 10:31 AM

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Hello fellow tankers!

 

Two Tier VIII American medium tanks are about to enter the Supertest: the T42 and the T77. 

 

The main difference between these newcomers is their armament.

 

T42

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The T42 carries a 90mm gun able to make 6.59 shots per minute, each dealing 280 damage points on average. The armor penetration amounts to 190 mm for the basic AP round and to 268 mm for the special APCR shell. While the gun’s dispersion and aiming time aren’t very special (0.36 and 2 seconds, respectively), its depression is outstanding: -10 degrees.

 

T77 

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Turning to the T77, it belongs to a completely different subclass of medium tanks due to its 120mm gun sporting an autoloader with a 3-shell drum. It takes 38 seconds for this gimmick to fully reload and the time between shots is 2 seconds. Each successful hit subtracts 360 points from the enemy’s HP pool; the gun’s dispersion is 0.37 at 100 m while its aiming time is 2.3 seconds. As for the armor penetration, it’s 215 mm for the standard APCR round and 270 mm for the special HEAT shell.

 

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In terms of mobility, the T42 and the T77 are almost identical, with a top speed of 51.5 km/h and 48 km/h, and a specific power of 15.6 hp and 16.3 hp per tonne, respectively. Also, both vehicles have the same view range: 380 m.

 

That said, the T42 is a better survivor due to its turret having a ‘bouncier’ shape and up to 216 mm of armor at the front. The T77 has only 152 mm there. Both tanks have an HP pool of 1,350 points. 

As both tanks are typically American mediums - reasonably slow but with decent firepower - they can perform the same tasks on the battlefield, but each delivers on these in its own way. While dishing out damage, the T42 can use terrain folds and rely on its gun’s stats allowing for comfortable gunplay. The T77 has good burst damage. To realize the full potential of both vehicles one needs to use their strengths to the utmost.



Miepie #2 Posted 02 July 2020 - 01:58 PM

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"We cloned the T69 twice, and gave one of them a single-shot gun and one of them a higher-alpha autoloader" seems like a nice summary. :popcorn:

Benutzername00 #3 Posted 02 July 2020 - 02:44 PM

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"We changed the medium-t9-T54E1 into a heavy tank, now we gonna sell our players the old T54E1 as a t8 premium tank and alter the stats a bit so it doesen't look like a fully-fledged tier 9 tank on the first glance but only on the second."

 

And this T-42 will be a tank no one ever grinds credits with since everyone will play it gold only...

 

Yes, I know it's Supertest and stats gonna be changed, however one must really have no clue of balancing to start with these stats on T-77.



Koz23 #4 Posted 02 July 2020 - 03:38 PM

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I am confused as to why you're selling a premium tier X heavy tank as a tier 8 medium, considering you just recently made the T54E1 also a Heavy tank now... I mean, sure, it had the Patton hull, but... still >_>
And let's be honest, looking at the stats, it's gonna be a premium.



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Any more info, please? Are those both tanks would be premiums? 

gunslingerXXX #6 Posted 02 July 2020 - 03:54 PM

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Q: how do they compare to my CDC?

Paul_Kouadio #7 Posted 02 July 2020 - 04:01 PM

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Interesting. At this point WG should just add the T58... 155mm memes:trollface:

Geno1isme #8 Posted 02 July 2020 - 04:15 PM

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And the powercreep continues ...

saxsan4 #9 Posted 02 July 2020 - 04:46 PM

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Hello wot developers,

 

These look nice, balanced tanks, I look forward to seeing them :)



Puszka_Drynia #10 Posted 02 July 2020 - 05:41 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 02 July 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

And the powercreep continues ...

 

Where? T77 has a DPM of 1600, that's a Skoda t27 level. With a 120mm gun it has 360 damage instead of 400. A rather unimpressive tank which I think will appeal to fans of autoloaders. Renegade has 2,5K DPM.



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View PostPuszka_Drynia, on 02 July 2020 - 06:41 PM, said:

Where? T77 has a DPM of 1600, that's a Skoda t27 level. With a 120mm gun it has 360 damage instead of 400. A rather unimpressive tank which I think will appeal to fans of autoloaders. Renegade has 2,5K DPM.

Who cares about that? 360 alpha is the second-highest for T8 mediums. You have over 1k burst damage within 4s with decent penetration. Gun-handling and mobility don't look horrible either (as far as we can tell from the released stats) and armor won't be reliable but will probably be good enough to bounce the occasional shot. So far it looks like a Borrasque that trades some mobility and camo for a bigger clip and some armor, and makes the T69 cry in the corner.

And the T42 is basically a Pershing with more alpha.


Edited by Geno1isme, 02 July 2020 - 06:06 PM.


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http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/747694-two-new-american-tier-viii-mediums-on-the-supertest-t42-t77/

 

RIP Pershing and T69; already powercreeped by almost everything in the game and now these to will just add to it...

 

T42:

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T77:

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Edited by MaxandChloe4ever, 02 July 2020 - 06:50 PM.


Vatican_Tank_Corps #13 Posted 02 July 2020 - 06:27 PM

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T42 doesnt look like something OP, not sure about the second one tho.

shikaka9 #14 Posted 02 July 2020 - 06:28 PM

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cool names . thats it.

Vatican_Tank_Corps #15 Posted 02 July 2020 - 06:29 PM

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Meanwhile Pershing sitting in the corner: Am I joke to you WG?

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View PostPathethicc_Noob, on 02 July 2020 - 06:27 PM, said:

T42 doesnt look like something OP, not sure about the second one tho.

 

It doesn't look OP, no, but it certainly looks like it outmatches the Pershing frankly.

 

Also wotexpress has the full stats for the T77 (albeit y'know, in Russian):

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Honestly what's even the point of the T69 Then.



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Basically M46 Patton and T54E1 one tier lower with a gimpsed gun.

And, as said, both completely outclass the tech tree counterpart.



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 02 July 2020 - 05:29 PM, said:

 

It doesn't look OP, no, but it certainly looks like it outmatches the Pershing frankly.

 

I just wanted to add that to my reply :D 


Edited by Pathethicc_Noob, 02 July 2020 - 06:32 PM.


ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 02 July 2020 - 06:32 PM

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2 more premium tanks who are superior to T8 US tech tree tanks, nothing new to see here.

 

Just adding some more p2w.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 02 July 2020 - 06:33 PM.


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View PostDava_117, on 02 July 2020 - 05:31 PM, said:

Basically M46 Patton and T54E1 one tier lower with a gimpsed gun.

And, as said, both completely outclass the tech tree counterpart.

 

What a surprise I cant believe that. WG would never done something like this.


Edited by Pathethicc_Noob, 02 July 2020 - 06:33 PM.





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