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jarppinen226 #1 Posted 02 July 2020 - 02:48 PM

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how is this possible? 80% wr in is-3 and combined damage 1539? and 3 marked it

 

i have 54% wr and combined 1660? i have 1 mark

 

i just dont understand :(



Homer_J #2 Posted 02 July 2020 - 02:55 PM

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What is there not to understand?

 

Expected damage for marks changes with time but once you have 3 you don't lose them.

 

For an 80% winrate over that many battles I suspect platooning with only other good players, or they played it a lot in the early days when it was comparatively strong.



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View PostHomer_J, on 02 July 2020 - 01:55 PM, said:

What is there not to understand?

 

Expected damage for marks changes with time but once you have 3 you don't lose them.

 

For an 80% winrate over that many battles I suspect platooning with only other good players, or they played it a lot in the early days when it was comparatively strong.

but 80% and it is not few games, its over 3000. is platooning that good boost wr?



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View Postjarppinen226, on 02 July 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

but 80% and it is not few games, its over 3000. is platooning that good boost wr?

 

Yes, 3 top level players platooning together with comms is basically the same as your team having two extra tanks for free. 


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View PostHomer_J, on 02 July 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

What is there not to understand?

 

Expected damage for marks changes with time but once you have 3 you don't lose them.

 

For an 80% winrate over that many battles I suspect platooning with only other good players, or they played it a lot in the early days when it was comparatively strong.


This. And I don't know if tank companies are among these stats as well.



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View Postjarppinen226, on 02 July 2020 - 01:58 PM, said:

but 80% and it is not few games, its over 3000. is platooning that good boost wr?

 

If you play with two friend that are both very good players they can have a very big impact on the outcome of the game.

You can see them as a multiplying factor to your chances to win if they are good.

 



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View Postjarppinen226, on 02 July 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

but 80% and it is not few games, its over 3000. is platooning that good boost wr?

 

I have known people who simply would not play unless they had at least one 60%+ WR player and preferably two good players to platoon with, and yes it gives you good win rates without always having the other stats to back it up since you are sharing damage with two other good players all the time.

 

I guess this guy had no real reason to keep playing the IS-3 after more than a hundred or so battles so any past that are likely to be platoons.



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ok that explains it. thank you all.

Private_Miros #9 Posted 02 July 2020 - 03:19 PM

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They can also be mostly old stats from tank companies of yore. You did low damage there in a good company, since you competed for it with other players. That also explains the high number of battles.

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View Postjarppinen226, on 02 July 2020 - 02:48 PM, said:

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how is this possible? 80% wr in is-3 and combined damage 1539? and 3 marked it

 

i have 54% wr and combined 1660? i have 1 mark

 

i just dont understand :(

Once upon a time, when game was balanced and Serb was king of the Balance department, a time where maps allowed for more then 50m frontal engagements, a time where light tanks where different from one another and a time where tanks had weakspots, a certain mode existed called something I have long forgotten. It was a mode where you played T8 or T10 with your clan against other random clans, and the statistics from this mode was then showed as statistics for individual tanks and became part of a players average WR. During this time, a guy called Hami played WoT and formed a clan around this. A clan who was among the best at that time. You can check out his WR in game or at wot-life to see what kind of WR you could get with a decent clan at that time.

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 02 July 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

Yes, 3 top level players platooning together with comms is basically the same as your team having two extra tanks for free. 

Then his 2 team mates are carrying this [edited]pretty hard. Since this guy have average at bet dmg per game. They would be off just as good as a 2 man toon.

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 02 July 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:


This. And I don't know if tank companies are among these stats as well.

Tank companies where before stats for different modes. So if TC is played, then those stats are included in the 'random game stats' for the tank.

 

There is a reason why Hami have highest WR on B-C 25t on server...



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View PostZapfhan, on 02 July 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

 

If you play with two friend that are both very good players they can have a very big impact on the outcome of the game.

You can see them as a multiplying factor to your chances to win if they are good.

 


Sounds like an unfair advantage to me. 



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View Postjarppinen226, on 02 July 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

but 80% and it is not few games, its over 3000. is platooning that good boost wr?

 

Based on the average damage. He did not get the WR carrying every game. Either he got lucky, or had good platoon mates that covered him. I have 70% WR tanks with over 100 battles in it, mostly due to platoons or early luck. Not because I was really good in the tank.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 02 July 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

Tank companies where before stats for different modes. So if TC is played, then those stats are included in the 'random game stats' for the tank.

 

There is a reason why Hami have highest WR on B-C 25t on server...

Thx for clarifying.



KillingJoker #14 Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:28 PM

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Absolutely "nothing" wrong with the game... 

 

"everything is ok", and working as intended according to WG...

what you really need to do is,, to stop playing heavy tanks or anything that cripples your chances of winning from the beggining of the battle...

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Because honeslty why play heavies right? they are slow, the gun handling suck and the dpm is lacking... and that thing WG took lots of years to develop called armor

after all useless, since any wolf pack of mediums will melth any type of armor in this game in less than 20 seconds... 

 

So lets all play mediums...  they are fast, they have insane dpm, great gun handling, view range... some are just as fast as light tanks

and they even have extreme amounts of penetration... like 330 or 340 mm which obviously don't break any balance ot the game at all... despite making heavies completely obsolete and adventures for idiots.

 

Its a no brainer play medium tanks and be happy.

 

 

 


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Pansenmann #15 Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:49 PM

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I have three marked my Tiger I (H) some 2 (?) years ago and am now just mediocre

but with a high battle count the stats change slowly



jarppinen226 #16 Posted 03 July 2020 - 06:03 AM

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stop arquing :D:D its that old platoon system and new. give a break :)

jarppinen226 #17 Posted 03 July 2020 - 07:17 AM

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BUT IF PERSON IS LIVING IN THEIR PARENTS AND ONLY THING IS WOT WR?

I feel there`s few people who dont got a life :)

 

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and im best [edited]you bots

 


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View PostZlatanArKung, on 02 July 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

Then his 2 team mates are carrying this [edited]pretty hard. Since this guy have average at bet dmg per game. They would be off just as good as a 2 man toon.

 

All old modes other than random battles that were counted as random battles really screwed with player stats. There's a reason why so many unicums lobbies that results from CW shouldn't affect your random stats (back when it did).

It's impossible to tell how well this player played from just these stats.






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