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Grandfather_in_a_bikini #1 Posted 03 July 2020 - 03:08 AM

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Fix/buff this old crap machine. How can you just let it stay broken for years, yet introduce tanks like 279E ?? Bias much? 

 



Desyatnik_Pansy #2 Posted 03 July 2020 - 03:14 AM

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What exactly are you asking for? You're not exactly explaining what buffs it apparently needs, and frankly there are tanks out there (even just looking at Tier X) that are more in need of buffs.

Grandfather_in_a_bikini #3 Posted 03 July 2020 - 03:27 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 03 July 2020 - 02:14 AM, said:

What exactly are you asking for? You're not exactly explaining what buffs it apparently needs, and frankly there are tanks out there (even just looking at Tier X) that are more in need of buffs.

The Tank is crap compared to most others. Play it and find out yourself. I assume WG know's their own game and can figure it out. I don't care one bit if you don't get it, you can't change anything. 

 



Homer_J #4 Posted 03 July 2020 - 03:39 AM

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View PostInbred_Imbecil, on 03 July 2020 - 03:27 AM, said:

The Tank is crap compared to most others.

 

 

So, in what way is it worse than the .. lets pick something you have played ... T110E4 ?



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View PostInbred_Imbecil, on 03 July 2020 - 03:27 AM, said:

The Tank is crap compared to most others. Play it and find out yourself. I assume WG know's their own game and can figure it out. I don't care one bit if you don't get it, you can't change anything. 

 

That's.. still not answering my question, what exactly do you want buffed? Armour? I know the casemate is quite cheese to HEAT. Speed? Well, it's a hulking behemoth, so I'm not sure it needs anything there. Gun? Frankly I don't think it needs anything relating to the gun, but hell, I dunno.

 

 



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It aint to bad  not the best not the worst.

Can use a little tuning to 2020 standards



Grandfather_in_a_bikini #7 Posted 03 July 2020 - 04:01 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 03 July 2020 - 02:44 AM, said:

 

That's.. still not answering my question, what exactly do you want buffed? Armour? I know the casemate is quite cheese to HEAT. Speed? Well, it's a hulking behemoth, so I'm not sure it needs anything there. Gun? Frankly I don't think it needs anything relating to the gun, but hell, I dunno.

 

 

It's giant, it's slow, it's dpm is horrible, and the armor can be buttered with premium shells. Because of size you can't hide it, and if you peak you are too slow to get back to safety. The gun trolls you waaay too much, and I'm far from the only one saying that.  Just bounced a Leo PTA with it. Stuff like that happens way to often in it.  
The tank have never been considered to be good, and since then it also suffered power creep.  How many unicorns do you see drive it? Guess there is a reason. WG calls these type of machines SUPER.  What makes them super? 
T110E4 is smaller, has a turret and generally can adapt to situations  much easier.  I might suck, but that does not change these things. 
 



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View PostHomer_J, on 03 July 2020 - 03:39 AM, said:

 

So, in what way is it worse than the .. lets pick something you have played ... T110E4 ?

 

this is akin to saying

 

a rusty lada with 3 wheels is actually not a bad car, when compared to a Ferrari without tires ~

 

 



Grandfather_in_a_bikini #9 Posted 03 July 2020 - 04:19 AM

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Forgot to mention no camo, arty LOVES to hunt it, and now we have EBR's. 

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View PostInbred_Imbecil, on 03 July 2020 - 04:19 AM, said:

Forgot to mention no camo, arty LOVES to hunt it, and now we have EBR's. 

 

Give it a rest man most if not all slow tanks are trash now.

 

nothing wg buffs on that tank will change the state it's in..

 

unless they want to turn it into a german bobject and give it 45-50 km/h topspeed xD



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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 03 July 2020 - 03:21 AM, said:

 

Give it a rest man most if not all slow tanks are trash now.

 

nothing wg buffs on that tank will change the state it's in..

 

unless they want to turn it into a german bobject and give it 45-50 km/h topspeed xD

They given it a rest since it was introduced to the game. I know I'm bashing my head against the wall here, but Its hard not to. Haha. I don't want OP tanks like the bobject, but I do want some kind of balance. 30km/h, better traverse speed and dpm. I'm no expert, so I guess they could figure that out.  You should not have OP and UP tanks in the same battle, it's just dumb. At least make the UP decent, so it can stand a chance. 

 



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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 03 July 2020 - 04:06 AM, said:

 

this is akin to saying

 

a rusty lada with 3 wheels is actually not a bad car, when compared to a Ferrari without tires ~

 

 

 

Well since OP was the one saying it's worse than most others I had to pick a tier X TD they have some experience of.  And there's not a lot to pick from.



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I am really surprised OPs username is even allowed.

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View PostInbred_Imbecil, on 03 July 2020 - 04:01 AM, said:

How many unicorns do you see drive it? Guess there is a reason.

 

To be fair, most unis I know (as well as myself) tend to prefer tanks that aren't slow, and turretless. Hell, I've even complained about 50km/h being too slow for my tastes! :teethhappy:



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 03 July 2020 - 03:57 AM, said:

 

To be fair, most unis I know (as well as myself) tend to prefer tanks that aren't slow, and turretless. Hell, I've even complained about 50km/h being too slow for my tastes! :teethhappy:

For a good reason.

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View PostKdingo, on 03 July 2020 - 03:44 AM, said:

I am really surprised OPs username is even allowed.

Sensitive much. This world is a bunch of kids in need of a hand. 

 



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View PostInbred_Imbecil, on 03 July 2020 - 05:02 AM, said:

 

Sensitive much. This world is a bunch of kids in need of a hand. 

 

 

You do you i don't mind, just surprised that wg allows it AND that none of certain fragile flakes have reported you yet, cause thats what certain people love to do.



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View PostKdingo, on 03 July 2020 - 04:25 AM, said:

 

You do you i don't mind, just surprised that wg allows it AND that none of certain fragile flakes have reported you yet, cause thats what certain people love to do.

That would be discriminating towards inbred people. They should be reported for being so hostile and negative. A little taste of their own medicine. 

 



Venom7000 #18 Posted 03 July 2020 - 10:54 AM

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JgpzE100 has a design flaw built in by WG.

The tank is 100% about that gun.

Its a good gun (in theory) mounted to a terrible chassis.

And on paper it should be considered as a good balance.

 

Problem is that with any tank who's trick lies in the gun is that: pen RNG, accuracy RNG and DMG RNG exist.

 

You are slow, bad camo, low dpm bunker. Who reloads every 24sec at best. And when you shoot. Your perfectly aimed shot goes low (this gun loves to track), bounces or even worse low rolls like a champ. Having to wait 24 sec to do 880dmg is just dumb.

 

I would take a t30 reload time and roll 500 any day over any low roll of JgpzE100.

 

RNG is cruel but fair as it doesn't discriminate. However,  its effects affect some tanks less or more.

 

One trick gun pony like JgpzE100 needs to either have a DPM buff or have much less chance to miss or low roll.

 

Simple as that.

 

Its built in nerfs such as speed and camo and lack of turret are enough on their own.



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JgpzE100 is doing fine statistically, having that armour and huge alpha means you have to sacrifice a lot of other things, yes it might be inconvenient to play, but it is a min/maxed vehicle and it should not be overpowered, maybe it just doesn’t suit you.

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View PostVenom7000, on 03 July 2020 - 10:54 AM, said:

One trick gun pony like JgpzE100 needs to either have a DPM buff or have much less chance to miss or low roll.

 

Simple as that

 

As long as the tank does statistically fine it needs nothing, imo.

Right now the game already suffers enough from high pen/alpha tds sitting at the end of a corridor/in their favorite bush just to shave of half their victims hp cause it dared to move.

Buffing dpm, artificially buffing accuracy/dispersion/low roll chance would make the game even more campy.






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