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shane73tank #1 Posted 03 July 2020 - 08:27 AM

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Hi folks, 

 

Thought I'd reach out to you wise old forum sages for some insight.  I'm really struggling with this one, not doing 3K damage, just trying to understand the requirements, just now I did over 3K damage in my obj257, got 33 cap points and then my team killed the last enemy - mission mission complete.  Previously I did over 3K and then we capped out - still not complete.

 

So what the bloody hell are the actual requirements, it says cap/defence, 3K damage and then "win a battle"  

 

Confucius says wtf ? 

 

Thanks in advance you wonderful bunch of tankers 

 

Shane 



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I believe you need to actually cap the base, get 3k minimum and win. You said your team killed the last enemy so you didn't win by cap.:(

dan_dix #3 Posted 03 July 2020 - 09:29 AM

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Yes, you have to do 3k and on top of that either "win by cap" or reset a cap and then win one way or another.

 

Pretty silly requirement, as as soon as you start winning the game the "No Cap KILL ALL" directive gets issued and you're screwed... You need to get one of those magic balanced games that rarely happen nowadays


Edited by dan_dix, 03 July 2020 - 09:29 AM.


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just skip it

tajj7 #5 Posted 03 July 2020 - 09:53 AM

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Yeh it's 3k damage and win always, and if you do it by capping you have to win by cap I think.

 

Just play normally get the 3k damage and make sure you rush back for any defends or jump on a cap if its happening and apologise to the team for capping out saying you have a mission, sometimes they will let people do this.

 

But IIRC I did it with the 50b and defending. 



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View Postshane73tank, on 03 July 2020 - 07:27 AM, said:

Hi folks, 

 

Thought I'd reach out to you wise old forum sages for some insight.  I'm really struggling with this one, not doing 3K damage, just trying to understand the requirements, just now I did over 3K damage in my obj257, got 33 cap points and then my team killed the last enemy - mission mission complete.  Previously I did over 3K and then we capped out - still not complete.

 

So what the bloody hell are the actual requirements, it says cap/defence, 3K damage and then "win a battle"  

 

Confucius says wtf ? 

 

Thanks in advance you wonderful bunch of tankers 

 

Shane 

 

  Surprisingly I have actually done this mission with honours.. If I remember correctly you need to earn at least 40 cap points (Yourself!) and win by capping!  Or taking it (40 cap points) off the enemy trying to cap and win..

I remember as it almost as frustrating to do as the blocking missions..

 

  The only real practical tip in doing it is to make sure you have at least Assault (and encounter) battle mode switched on as you get more opportunities to reset the cap for at least 40 points or to cap and win when about half to 2 thirds of the enemy team are dead, ignore the whining and the constant map pinging when you break off from fighting and drive into the cap circle. 


Edited by Tealo, 03 July 2020 - 10:44 AM.


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Try encounter mode and defend the cap. 9/10 games some player will hold straight for cap. 

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You need 3k damage and a win either by a full cap where you get at least 20 (or 40, I don't remember) cap points or defending your base removing the same amount of cap points from the enemies. 

I didn't remember how I did it, because I never felt that as a hard mission. You simply play to win and will eventually be done.

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View Postundutchable80, on 03 July 2020 - 11:41 AM, said:

Try encounter mode and defend the cap. 9/10 games some player will hold straight for cap. 

 

Yeh, encounter is an easy way to do that, especially in close match where you have to cap or decap.



hjorte #9 Posted 03 July 2020 - 12:25 PM

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There are 3 criteria (Primary condition):

 

1. Capture/Defense - Participate in the successful capture of a base or reset the enemy capture points of your own or neutral base

2. Damage - Cause 3.000 HP of damage to enemy vehicles

3. Win a battle - Destroy all enemy vehicles / capture or defend the base

 

Isn't there some kind of messy redundancy in the above wording? Successful capture is winning, isn't it?

Let's say I complete #2 and #3 by causing 3.000 HP of damage and destroy all enemy vehicles. The game is now over. Where does that leave #1? 

 

I don't get it. English is not my first language, but maybe the above is poorly translated into English by WG, making it rubbish?



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View Posthjorte, on 03 July 2020 - 12:25 PM, said:

There are 3 criteria (Primary condition):

 

1. Capture/Defense - Participate in the successful capture of a base or reset the enemy capture points of your own or neutral base

2. Damage - Cause 3.000 HP of damage to enemy vehicles

3. Win a battle - Destroy all enemy vehicles / capture or defend the base

 

Isn't there some kind of messy redundancy in the above wording? Successful capture is winning, isn't it?

Let's say I complete #2 and #3 by causing 3.000 HP of damage and destroy all enemy vehicles. The game is now over. Where does that leave #1? 

 

I don't get it. English is not my first language, but maybe the above is poorly translated into English by WG, making it rubbish?

You can participate in a successful capture that ends in a draw or a defend and draw/lose, so they have to mention the winning part.


Edited by chainreact0r, 03 July 2020 - 12:41 PM.


shane73tank #11 Posted 03 July 2020 - 12:44 PM

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View PostTealo, on 03 July 2020 - 09:24 AM, said:

 

  Surprisingly I have actually done this mission with honours.. If I remember correctly you need to earn at least 40 cap points (Yourself!) and win by capping!  Or taking it (40 cap points) off the enemy trying to cap and win..

I remember as it almost as frustrating to do as the blocking missions..

 

  The only real practical tip in doing it is to make sure you have at least Assault (and encounter) battle mode switched on as you get more opportunities to reset the cap for at least 40 points or to cap and win when about half to 2 thirds of the enemy team are dead, ignore the whining and the constant map pinging when you break off from fighting and drive into the cap circle. 

Thank you - I think this is the key, I'm sure in the past I've done 3K, got on the cap and still did'nt do the misson  - I probably did not have 40 cap points  - why can't they not bloody say how many points on the mission instruction  :izmena:

 

To everyone who came to my rescue  - thanks guys ( and gals ), GLHF and have a good w/e 



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View Postshane73tank, on 03 July 2020 - 12:44 PM, said:

Thank you - I think this is the key, I'm sure in the past I've done 3K, got on the cap and still did'nt do the misson  - I probably did not have 40 cap points  - why can't they not bloody say how many points on the mission instruction  :izmena:

 

To everyone who came to my rescue  - thanks guys ( and gals ), GLHF and have a good w/e 

Good luck mate! And let us know when its done. :great:



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You might find it easier in something autoloadery as it's a bit easier to dump out a lot of damage quickly to get the 3k and then go off and cap/defend than to get 3k by grinding through a front.

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View Postshane73tank, on 03 July 2020 - 11:44 AM, said:

Thank you - I think this is the key, I'm sure in the past I've done 3K, got on the cap and still did'nt do the misson  - I probably did not have 40 cap points  - why can't they not bloody say how many points on the mission instruction  :izmena:

 

To everyone who came to my rescue  - thanks guys ( and gals ), GLHF and have a good w/e 

 

 I just checked I got it wrong it's 60 points you need! 40 points was for the previous cap HT mission for the T28 HT campaign as you need at least 80 points for HT-7 in the next campaign for the obj 260.

 

   Make sure you have 'Progress of Personal Missions' Turned on as it does tell you in game if you have done it and how much you have done to get the mission complete/how much you need:

But only when a enemy is spotted when doing damage doesn't count blind firing. 

Under 'Settings' 'Battle Notifications' 'Progress of Personal Missions' set to Standard and Display all.

   Good luck!


Edited by Tealo, 03 July 2020 - 05:25 PM.


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View Posthjorte, on 03 July 2020 - 12:25 PM, said:

There are 3 criteria (Primary condition):

 

1. Capture/Defense - Participate in the successful capture of a base or reset the enemy capture points of your own or neutral base

2. Damage - Cause 3.000 HP of damage to enemy vehicles

3. Win a battle - Destroy all enemy vehicles / capture or defend the base

 

Isn't there some kind of messy redundancy in the above wording? Successful capture is winning, isn't it?

Let's say I complete #2 and #3 by causing 3.000 HP of damage and destroy all enemy vehicles. The game is now over. Where does that leave #1? 

 

I don't get it. English is not my first language, but maybe the above is poorly translated into English by WG, making it rubbish?

 

IIRC decap points are aleays counted, both for missions and xp, no matter if you win or lose.

Cap points are only counted if the capture is successful, meaning that 100 points have to be accumulated. If the "successful" wasn't there a scenario like the one described in the OP would fulfil the mission.






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