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no_skill_bob #1 Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:18 AM

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well this is prime example, how the gameplay is at tier 10 with covid zombie attack, i seriously cant remeber when was the last time when i had this good team at full tier 10 mm game.

bare in mind, stat-wise mor ethan half of my team was "green" + unicorn in lt, this just proves, that there is very small difference in mindset between many greens and reds.

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AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #2 Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:38 AM

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Late night gaming big mistake ,the ratio of bots to actual players is .....



ONE77ZERO13 #3 Posted 07 July 2020 - 04:31 AM

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It has nothing to do with covid.

 

The problem lies elsewhere..

 

T10 are being sold like hot cakes

 

x5 boosters discounts ToTP all day everyday

 

the amount of people with 2-3k games and 3 T10 i encounter is staggering.



no_skill_bob #4 Posted 07 July 2020 - 05:24 AM

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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 07 July 2020 - 05:31 AM, said:

It has nothing to do with covid.

 

The problem lies elsewhere..

 

T10 are being sold like hot cakes

 

x5 boosters discounts ToTP all day everyday

 

the amount of people with 2-3k games and 3 T10 i encounter is staggering.

In this particular battle maybe 1 or 2 were newbies.

 

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 07 July 2020 - 03:38 AM, said:

Late night gaming big mistake ,the ratio of bots to actual players is .....

Best part is that i had like 20% wr tonight, over 10 battles or so. I play at night atm, just because im off to work at 4:30 :D


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ONE77ZERO13 #5 Posted 07 July 2020 - 05:28 AM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 07 July 2020 - 05:24 AM, said:

In this particular battle maybe 1 or 2 were newbies.

 

 

i run into them all the time.. just this morning i met a guy who had 41% WR and had 2 T10s at 1.9k games played..  with this Leo PTA sitting at 33% WR and Maus at 39% .. 

 

he wasn't much help to the team in that game.



Hedgehog1963 #6 Posted 07 July 2020 - 06:48 AM

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Someone feels entitled to have better teams than everyone else again.

shikaka9 #7 Posted 07 July 2020 - 07:01 AM

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3-15 its more close to an average game than a bad game. :harp:

Jin91 #8 Posted 07 July 2020 - 07:15 AM

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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 07 July 2020 - 05:31 AM, said:

 

the amount of people with 2-3k games and 3 T10 i encounter is staggering.

That's on WG for having mostly only tanks with different mechanics at t8-10 which is part of the problem. Like for having double barrel mechanic start at tier 7, nothing stopped from them doing that. But nope. So anyone new or not new have to be play on + tier 8



no_skill_bob #9 Posted 07 July 2020 - 07:25 AM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 07 July 2020 - 07:48 AM, said:

Someone feels entitled to have better teams than everyone else again.

If you say so, but the thing is, that sometimes you run into so many useless teams over sessions of 30-40 battles, that its not really ordinary stuff. For me to have 30-40% wr over a session is unacceptable, as i average 60+ % wr for quite some time, so my overall wr is climbing up quite nicely.  If i can have wr of 40% or less over a session - it means that majority of those loses were uncarryable, no matter what i did, im sorry but its not possible to do 10k+ dmg combined with 8+ kills every battle, no one can do that. Too many covid homesitting bots around this time, thats all there is.



saxsan4 #10 Posted 07 July 2020 - 07:37 AM

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Big problems I see

 

Maps too small for tier 10 only games 

 

Many maps work well up to tier 9 then at tier 10 only games where everyone has maxed out tanks issues come

 

Solution? 10v10 tier 10 games so there is more space on the map

 

Second issue, too many arties, I am always seeing 3 arties per side in tier 10 games meaning the game is broken 

 

 

also, I think you should stop worrying about stats and just play the game, I no longer check MOE or care if my wr goes up or down and ive been such happier since, reminds me of the COD players who oversee over KD ratios, at the end of the day we play the game for fun so just relax, if you die laugh it off and play the next battle

 

also remove vxm as all it does is stress you out



Jauhesammutin #11 Posted 07 July 2020 - 08:10 AM

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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 07 July 2020 - 04:28 AM, said:

 

i run into them all the time.. just this morning i met a guy who had 41% WR and had 2 T10s at 1.9k games played..  with this Leo PTA sitting at 33% WR and Maus at 39% .. 

 

he wasn't much help to the team in that game.

Everyone starts as a noob. Some get better and some don't.

They can't just sit at T2 all the time, they have to learn the game at some point.



chainreact0r #12 Posted 07 July 2020 - 08:24 AM

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That's what i've been saying for years.

The playerbase got so bad that there is virtually no difference between 600 and 1600 wn8 anymore.



kaneloon #13 Posted 07 July 2020 - 08:48 AM

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More a case of "competitive" try-harders with 300% full stuff and years of experience wrecking the higher tiers for newbies and casuals.

Private_Miros #14 Posted 07 July 2020 - 08:51 AM

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Which map?

 

Seems like the won the vision game very early on and your team simply never had time to get any decent positions, maybe because they all stopped and shot the EBR or so.

Alternatively, Ensk and a successful push.



Gkirmathal #15 Posted 07 July 2020 - 09:13 AM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 07 July 2020 - 01:18 AM, said:

well this is prime example, how the gameplay is at tier 10 with covid zombie attack, i seriously cant remeber when was the last time when i had this good team at full tier 10 mm game.

bare in mind, stat-wise mor ethan half of my team was "green" + unicorn in lt, this just proves, that there is very small difference in mindset between many greens and reds.

 

Well that is what you get if you direct your product development mainly to the higher level content regions, where most (short term) monetization  is designed to take place/resides and change & introduce all kind of aspect and features to push 'new' players faster and faster up the tiers into those regions....

 

Cause and effect.



no_human #16 Posted 07 July 2020 - 09:25 AM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 07 July 2020 - 02:18 AM, said:

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what do you expected?

 

Sheridan and Rhm.Pzw. vs T-100 LT and EBR 105



ONE77ZERO13 #17 Posted 07 July 2020 - 10:10 AM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 07 July 2020 - 08:10 AM, said:

Everyone starts as a noob. Some get better and some don't.

They can't just sit at T2 all the time, they have to learn the game at some point.

 

Which they don't because they end up in t10 get outplayed 24/7

 

and end up here or in the general chat accusing everyone of being hackerman.



no_skill_bob #18 Posted 07 July 2020 - 10:16 AM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 07 July 2020 - 09:51 AM, said:

Which map?

 

Seems like the won the vision game very early on and your team simply never had time to get any decent positions, maybe because they all stopped and shot the EBR or so.

Alternatively, Ensk and a successful push.

Well not really, 1 lt flanking at the endgame didt change much, pretty much every tank was in city. It was siegfried line and the battle was lost over city, sure lts died on the field and grille got rekt by artas, because of worst positioning ever.

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View Postno_human, on 07 July 2020 - 10:25 AM, said:

what do you expected?

 

Sheridan and Rhm.Pzw. vs T-100 LT and EBR 105

lts didnt win this battle. If it was prokhorovka then sure.

But it was siegfried line and only lts were on field on both teams.



Jauhesammutin #19 Posted 07 July 2020 - 11:22 AM

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View PostONE77ZERO13, on 07 July 2020 - 09:10 AM, said:

 

Which they don't because they end up in t10 get outplayed 24/7

 

and end up here or in the general chat accusing everyone of being hackerman.

And why wouldn't they get outplayed at lower tiers? Back in the days when I had XVM T6 had a lot of players with more than, let's say, 5k games.

I guess that the average player rating on T10 is a bit higher than on lower tiers.

 

Higher tiers are better place to learn the game. The basic game mechanics should be learned while grinding your way to T8+.



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View Postno_skill_bob, on 07 July 2020 - 02:18 AM, said:

well this is prime example, how the gameplay is at tier 10 with covid zombie attack, i seriously cant remeber when was the last time when i had this good team at full tier 10 mm game.

bare in mind, stat-wise mor ethan half of my team was "green" + unicorn in lt, this just proves, that there is very small difference in mindset between many greens and reds.

 

 

I don't use xvm but i always expect my entire team to consist out of red tomatos. You don't end up disappointed if it does.

Yet its getting frustrating, specially if you aren't top tier, when you top tiers are afk, or complete inept mouth breathers. Watching some peoples overly clumsy attempts to play the game, without the slightest indication of informations being processed, is mind blowing.

 

This "i can no longer see it so it must be gone" concept a large portion of bad players have really makes you wonder about their brain activity.






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