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OniichanSenpai #1 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:19 PM

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Edit: apparently they listened: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/1-10-CT-2/

Post "Thank you Senpai".

 

After Progetto 46 was nerfed, will there be a refund program?

 

The Progetto 46 tank was specifically advertised to be able to mount a rammer which sets it apart from french autoloaders:

 

 

The effect is:

  • Single shot DPM nerfed from 2145 to 1877
  • Last shot DPM nerfed to 1250 (!) 
  • You also lose the ability to permatrack reliably because a single 240 alpha shot now takes 7.67 seconds to reload (for comparison: fully equipped T-44-100 has 5.71 with 250 alpha).

 

inb4 "But you can still clip people", if you do this now you will wait half a minute until your clip is full again.

 


Edited by OniichanSenpai, 16 July 2020 - 09:41 PM.


tajj7 #2 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:21 PM

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I have a Progetto, and the tank is too good, so I am fine with this change. 

Gwynbleidd11 #3 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:23 PM

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Dream on, you will get nothing. Italian tanks are autoloaders so rammer should not have been available from the beggining

pincup #4 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:25 PM

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but  having gun rammer on premium tank was advertised as a key feature... 

Edited by pincup, 11 July 2020 - 12:25 PM.


OniichanSenpai #5 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:27 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 11 July 2020 - 12:21 PM, said:

I have a Progetto, and the tank is too good, so I am fine with this change. 

 

View PostGwynbleidd11, on 11 July 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

Dream on, you will get nothing. Italian tanks are autoloaders so rammer should not have been available from the beggining

 

This:

 

View Postpincup, on 11 July 2020 - 12:25 PM, said:

but  having gun rammer on premium tank was advertised as a key feature... 

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #6 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:43 PM

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You were sold the tank, not the equipment you decide to put on it. The tanks stats are the same.

 

Refund denied. 



DaniulSims #7 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:44 PM

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Playerbase: "WG stop with the OP premiums reeee"

Also the playerbase:

24doom24 #8 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:44 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 11 July 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

I have a Progetto, and the tank is too good, so I am fine with this change. 

I don't think the change itself is the problem. It's that WG should offer refunds or they will clash with consumer laws. You can't sell a product/service advertised as X but then change it down the road to Y since that's not what you paid for. 



Ricox #9 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:50 PM

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View PostDaniulSims, on 11 July 2020 - 11:44 AM, said:

Playerbase: "WG stop with the OP premiums reeee"

Also the playerbase:

 

Generalizing the opinions of hundreds of thousands of players into one homogenous group doesn't make any sense at all.

 

Many want Progetto 46 nerfed and support the changes. Many Progetto 46 owners also want to cry about the changes and oppose them. Then there's Progetto 46 owners who are completely fine with the changes (myself included).

 

Nuance. It exists. ;)



wsatnutter #10 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:54 PM

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no no no no no  your not getting a penny back plain and simple ffs

mpf1959 #11 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:57 PM

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My playing ability nerf's my Progetto in such a profoundly savage way that I believe even WG would be afraid to implement, so I doubt I will notice the difference. 

 

But if there ever comes a chance to get my money back, I will take it! :teethhappy:



splash_time #12 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:58 PM

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Honestly, that's why paying for a game isn't really worthy.

Either don't buy anything which is changeable (premium tanks) or either just buy things that can not be touched or changed (premium account, reserves and etc). 

The tank wasn't nerfed, it's an auto re-loader, same as other auto loaders, you can play both and perform decently, because you're not supposed to brawl with it, you hunt distracted tanks mate. 


Edited by splash_time, 11 July 2020 - 12:59 PM.


FizzleMcSnizzle #13 Posted 11 July 2020 - 12:59 PM

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Amazing how - as others have said - everyone complains about OP premiums, but then as soon as WG dares touch their beloved Prog they are on the phone to their lawyer.

no_skill_bob #14 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:01 PM

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no refund, tank is not getting nerfed, original, advertised stats are not being changed, period.

base dpm is the same as it was, ability to mount certain equipment units are not a nerf to base statistics of the tank, so forget about any refund.



jabster #15 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:06 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 11 July 2020 - 11:59 AM, said:

Amazing how - as others have said - everyone complains about OP premiums, but then as soon as WG dares touch their beloved Prog they are on the phone to their lawyer.


Not really, if WG are creating tanks that are OP and then selling them based on players will realise they are OP then I can see why you’d complain.



pincup #16 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:08 PM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 11 July 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

no refund, tank is not getting nerfed, original, advertised stats are not being changed, period.

base dpm is the same as it was, ability to mount certain equipment units are not a nerf to base statistics of the tank, so forget about any refund.

 if you think about it, tank is getting nerfed as gun rammer was explicitly advertised in promotional video, so now that you can't mount it you get a completely different tank, much worse in terms of dmg output


Edited by pincup, 11 July 2020 - 01:09 PM.


Crusader2k13 #17 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:09 PM

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View Postno_skill_bob, on 11 July 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

no refund, tank is not getting nerfed, original, advertised stats are not being changed, period.

base dpm is the same as it was, ability to mount certain equipment units are not a nerf to base statistics of the tank, so forget about any refund.

 

You are completely wrong. They advertized it with this special feature, now they are changing an advertized feature for a sold good. No one cares about "tanks" or if it is "software" product, bla blubb, it is simply the law, that sold goods can't easily be changed afterwards, all advertized characteristics are part of the product - so change them -> ez refund.



no_skill_bob #18 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:15 PM

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View PostCrusader2k13, on 11 July 2020 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

You are completely wrong. They advertized it with this special feature, now they are changing an advertized feature for a sold good. No one cares about "tanks" or if it is "software" product, bla blubb, it is simply the law, that sold goods can't easily be changed afterwards, all advertized characteristics are part of the product - so change them -> ez refund.

dont remember them advertising rammer mounting capabilities, but ok, it was long time ago.

anyway, auto-reloaders should not have a capability of mounting rammer, thats just a balance mistake, besides spaghetti 46 was acquirable through mission marathon, so you want a refund of 10%, that you actually paid for it? :D



shikaka9 #19 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:18 PM

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Refund :teethhappy:

no_skill_bob #20 Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:19 PM

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View Postpincup, on 11 July 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

 if you think about it, tank is getting nerfed as gun rammer was explicitly advertised in promotional video, so now that you can't mount it you get a completely different tank, much worse in terms of dmg output

ok, but what to do now? cry in a corner, that premium tank gets some balance adjustments? i have all of those spaghetti tanks, so what they are getting nerfed, wg used to nerf stuff every month.







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