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Purple_Unicorn_xD #1 Posted 12 July 2020 - 05:18 PM

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I think ELC EVEN 90 needs a buff to the engine,traverse and aim time/accuracy especially because of wheeled tanks.In the current meta the ELC EVEN 90 is left out and should get a buff.

gunslingerXXX #2 Posted 12 July 2020 - 05:19 PM

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at least it should get a gun that is able to hit the enemy with a standard setup (i.e. no bond equipment & food)

Purple_Unicorn_xD #3 Posted 12 July 2020 - 05:24 PM

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Well it is a light and it should atleast be able to go to a position fast enough....ELC is sometimes slower than Proggeto 46.....

 

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People are talking that it will be better when improved equipment comes out....well EBRS will be better aswell....tank is unplayable at current meta i am at 87% gun mark and just got prokhorovka 2x ebr on enemy team so i cant go to the bushes i went hill and i got shot by a defender from mid and IS M ,......

 



Dava_117 #4 Posted 12 July 2020 - 06:00 PM

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Yeh, some engine power would be nice. Already adding 100hp would help it climbing and keeping up speed after impacts. 

Also 10s less in the full clip reload would be nice too!



ZlatanArKung #5 Posted 12 July 2020 - 06:04 PM

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No.

Purple_Unicorn_xD #6 Posted 12 July 2020 - 06:34 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 12 July 2020 - 06:00 PM, said:

Yeh, some engine power would be nice. Already adding 100hp would help it climbing and keeping up speed after impacts. 

Also 10s less in the full clip reload would be nice too!


Definetly!The tank needs to get buffed,its has been a MEME tank for soo long,nobody wants to play it in SH and in randoms it rly isnt that much played...Tank has nice camo and view range but thats it.What is the use of camo and view range if you are too slow to get to a position also its so slow basically like a nerfed proggeto and it aint got armor like russian LT's so yea its kinda dumb to make a LT slower than a medium when it comes to driving overall.It is usually at 45-55km/h range and only gets to 70 km h when going downhill or a really flat surface without fences also fences are a huge issue for elc as soon as you hit it you are going like 38km/h which is soo slow and often gets you killed because you didnt get to position on time.



WindSplitter1 #7 Posted 12 July 2020 - 07:01 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 12 July 2020 - 05:04 PM, said:

No.

 

Because...?



Inappropriate_noob #8 Posted 12 July 2020 - 08:16 PM

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View PostPurple_Unicorn_xD, on 12 July 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:

I think the TOG 2 needs a buff to the engine,traverse and aim time/accuracy especially because of wheeled tanks.In the current meta it's left out and should get a buff.

Oh sorry i was purple haze daydreaming again:trollface:

 

Yes, buff he the ELC I will buy it back:D



wAr_God_11 #9 Posted 12 July 2020 - 08:25 PM

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just engine buff, reaching the top speed takes ages for such a small tank, rest is fine imo.

ZlatanArKung #10 Posted 12 July 2020 - 08:29 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 12 July 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

 

Because...?

Tank is already performing well enough and is common enough and therefore doesn't need a buff, since it would risk making the tank to strong (which it can be argued it already kind of is).



Purple_Unicorn_xD #11 Posted 12 July 2020 - 09:47 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 12 July 2020 - 08:29 PM, said:

Tank is already performing well enough and is common enough and therefore doesn't need a buff, since it would risk making the tank to strong (which it can be argued it already kind of is).


Strong???Hahahaha gun is terrible compared to other LT's and speed is worst everything is worse except camo and viewrange....And you cant use it cuz the tank is too slow....You think its normal that an 8ton tank is slower than a progetto????



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Yeah, also give it the Defender turret while we're at it

Purple_Unicorn_xD #13 Posted 12 July 2020 - 11:51 PM

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Its funny how most people that are saying things they think are "funny" are around 45% win rate players :)

I think it is pretty clear that ELC EVEN 90 is trash in current meta and needs some sort of buff...

If you think that I am wrong , feel free to say what you want but also give your reasons why It should or shouldnt get buffed...

Also I would like it that most comments are from people who actually have ELC EVEN 90 and have at least 50% win rate and possibly at least 1 mark of excellence :)

Players with 45% win rate dont understand the game as good as average players (50% win rate).

Thank You.

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I think I know what I am saying about ELC EVEN 90.

I am trying to get 3 marks on it and the tank is simply bad...It would be easyer to 3 mark amx 13 57 at tier 7 with dmg needed for elc's third mark then elc itself xD

EDIT: My stats in ELC

 


Edited by Purple_Unicorn_xD, 13 July 2020 - 12:00 AM.


FizzleMcSnizzle #14 Posted 13 July 2020 - 01:03 AM

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It's designed to sit in otherwise suicidal bushes and spot. It does this really well. Just fire up the bones, sit back and have a banana. If you want a tank to do actual damage, look elsewhere.

 
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Bones = binos, in case you were confused

Edited by FizzleMcSnizzle, 13 July 2020 - 01:05 AM.


Purple_Unicorn_xD #15 Posted 13 July 2020 - 04:37 AM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 13 July 2020 - 01:03 AM, said:


It's designed to sit in otherwise suicidal bushes and spot. It does this really well. Just fire up the bones, sit back and have a banana. If you want a tank to do actual damage, look elsewhere.

 
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Bones = binos, in case you were confused


It cant go to bushes cuz its too slow if there is an ebr on prokhorovka I always go hill cuz he will spot me with his ebr before I get to my position.....



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View PostPurple_Unicorn_xD, on 13 July 2020 - 04:37 AM, said:

It cant go to bushes cuz its too slow if there is an ebr on prokhorovka I always go hill cuz he will spot me with his ebr before I get to my position.....

 

What if...you go to another position where you can see the EBR trying to counter you?

Mindblowing?



StronkiTonki #17 Posted 13 July 2020 - 06:32 AM

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I honestly don't think this thing needs a buff. It performs well enough, and anyone expecting that this thing needs more firepower is a fool.

This tank never has been about firepower, but instead focuses on being the most sneaky tank in the game. It's insanely small, has amazing camo and even benefits from the fact that it can use the smallest hills as cover that no other tanks can use as cover. You technically get to play on "better maps" compared to other tanks, since you get to use cover that other tanks can not. You can sneak inbetween lots of things as well in different maps, and even your camo lets you passive scout from positions that other tanks would never be able to do.

 

The gun is literally an afterthought on this tank. Play as if you don't have a gun, and only use it if you know you'll be able to get away with it.

If you need more accuracy, you're playing it wrong.

If you need better aiming time, you're playing it wrong.

If you need a better clip, you're playing it wrong.

 

This tank would become insanely OP very quickly if given better firepower.



tajj7 #18 Posted 13 July 2020 - 07:03 AM

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It's one of those tanks that has poor attributes (particularly around the gun) which is compensated in other areas, namely it's camo and very small size. 

 

IIRC There is not a massive difference between the EBR 75 and Even 90 on the WR curves and both make most players slightly overperform. 

 

As said above the Even 90 can do things that other lights simply cannot, and in maps with passive spotting locations, no other tier 8 light can challenge a well played Even 90. 


Edited by tajj7, 13 July 2020 - 07:38 AM.


ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 13 July 2020 - 07:17 AM

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View PostPurple_Unicorn_xD, on 12 July 2020 - 09:47 PM, said:


Strong???Hahahaha gun is terrible compared to other LT's and speed is worst everything is worse except camo and viewrange....And you cant use it cuz the tank is too slow....You think its normal that an 8ton tank is slower than a progetto????

The tank is extremely small which makes it more survivable then any other light bar EBR 75.

Which allows the tank to survive things other lights wouldn't. And allows tank to use way smaller concealment, which wouldn't fit a regular light.

 

The tank have very good camo, so it won't get spotted as easily as other lights other.

 

If you want to succeed in the tank, you have to use the tanks advantages and not just use it as you would a Proghetto and think it should do just aswell.

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View PostPurple_Unicorn_xD, on 12 July 2020 - 11:51 PM, said:

Its funny how most people that are saying things they think are "funny" are around 45% win rate players :)

I think it is pretty clear that ELC EVEN 90 is trash in current meta and needs some sort of buff...

If you think that I am wrong , feel free to say what you want but also give your reasons why It should or shouldnt get buffed...

Also I would like it that most comments are from people who actually have ELC EVEN 90 and have at least 50% win rate and possibly at least 1 mark of excellence :)

Players with 45% win rate dont understand the game as good as average players (50% win rate).

Thank You.

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I think I know what I am saying about ELC EVEN 90.

I am trying to get 3 marks on it and the tank is simply bad...It would be easyer to 3 mark amx 13 57 at tier 7 with dmg needed for elc's third mark then elc itself xD

EDIT: My stats in ELC

 

Anything sub 1k assistance in the ELC EVEN 90 is bad.

 

So if you want to get your 3rd mark, stop focusing so much on gun and start racking up that assistance. 

 

In the session when I 3-marked the WZ-132, I had 1400-1500 avg assistance over 30 games. 


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 13 July 2020 - 07:21 AM.


no_skill_bob #20 Posted 13 July 2020 - 09:46 AM

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its fine, you cant have everything, its invisible meme tank.





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