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Fantacuzino #1 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:12 AM

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In 3 years I've spend over 600 euros and over 1500 hours on this account.

 

There is absolutely no point nor reason in nerfing the Italian tanks to the ground.

And they already have bad DpM ( expecially the tier 10 Progetto 65 )

 

I'm a paying customer, I ain't taking this kind of crap.

If they go on with this fraud I'm suing.



TomatoShooter #2 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:15 AM

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Mimimi, reroll complaining about his tier X wn8 famer getting nerfed..

BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:18 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

If they go on with this fraud I'm suing.

No you won't.



Fantacuzino #4 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:19 AM

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View PostTomatoShooter, on 14 July 2020 - 10:15 AM, said:

Mimimi, reroll complaining about his tier X wn8 famer getting nerfed..

 

I bought the Progetto 46 2 months ago.

And it's my money, not your money.

 

So keep quiet.



Echotun #5 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:20 AM

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Why not use one of the other 3-4 threads about this topic?

 

You know some mod will likely just close this. No need to keep topic spamming the forum when one thread works fine. 



Gwynbleidd11 #6 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:23 AM

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Very welcome nerfs on OP tanks. You can sue crap

Kdingo #7 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:27 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

I bought the Progetto 46 2 months ago.

And it's my money, not your money.

 

So keep quiet.

 

Yet its not your game and your purchase impacts other peoples experience, so why should they keep quiet.

 

A lot of more nerfs, buffs, balancings are needed in wot, even if it "upsets" certain people.



Fantacuzino #8 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:28 AM

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View PostGwynbleidd11, on 14 July 2020 - 10:23 AM, said:

Very welcome nerfs on OP tanks. You can sue crap

 

Again, it's my money, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.


Edited by Fantacuzino, 14 July 2020 - 11:40 AM.


Kdingo #9 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:30 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

I'm entitled

 

I'm shocked about this revelation.



BravelyRanAway #10 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:33 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

:teethhappy:

I think they should get around this problem by creating a specific rammer system for Italian tanks that increases the reload speed by 0.1%, that should meet the criteria of improvement while negating the need to remove the rammer option.



divsmo #11 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:38 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

 

Again, it's my monkey, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.

Unless you're a streamer i'm not sure you can class playing a video game as work but i'm sure the lawyers will gladly take some more money from you to pursue a wild goose chase.



Draakard #12 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:38 AM

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GL with lawyer costs.... the first consultation and paperwork would easily cost you EUR 1000,- (atleast in my country).

 

Even if WG gave you ALL your money back, your lawyer will cost you 10x that amount as a minimum.

 

Lawyers who work internationally towards Bellarus og Cyprus are not cheap and the paperwork is complex.

 

Just consider the money lost, it's alot cheaper.

 

The only winner would be the lawyer.....

 

Edit: EUR 600,- is not more than you would make on a Sunday working 12 hours (after tax).

 

Edit2: And if you are alone in the Office... why not play WOT AND get paid ? … LOL


Edited by Draakard, 14 July 2020 - 10:46 AM.


Shivvering #13 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:42 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

Again, it's my monkey, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.

 

Are you billing them here for the time that you have spent with an un-nerfed tank? Struggling to see the logic with this.

 

Or is this a future billing for time that you are going to intentionally drown yourself in the first minute of the battle cus 'Tank unplayable now' ? Struggling to see the logic with this too.

 

Best of luck in court.


Edited by Shivvering, 14 July 2020 - 10:42 AM.


FizzleMcSnizzle #14 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:46 AM

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Nah, nerf them all. In fact, nerf every tank in game by 10% in every characteristic. By a rough estimate the game would immediately be 10% better.

Draakard #15 Posted 14 July 2020 - 10:52 AM

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It would be interesting to make an estimate of how many hours people have been playing WOT while at work….

 

Imagine how much companies have paid in salary to WOT playing employees ? … rofl

 

I bet the amount is higher than WG total income from WOT.

 

Edit: Corona -> Home Office -> WOT..... Perfect combo….. we are talking millions.


Edited by Draakard, 14 July 2020 - 10:57 AM.


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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

 

Again, it's my monkey, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.

 

You own a monkey, so what have WG got to do with that?



Marlekin #17 Posted 14 July 2020 - 11:11 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:12 AM, said:

If they go on with this fraud I'm suing.

 

Let us know how that works out. 



TomatoShooter #18 Posted 14 July 2020 - 11:14 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

Again, it's my monkey, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.

Counter claim: But only 1300 battles in Tier 8+ italian mediums x 5 minute average gametime = ~110 hours of playing italian meds  minus costs for running servers, game updates = -50000 euro. So you have to pay them.



Jethro_Grey #19 Posted 14 July 2020 - 11:22 AM

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View PostFantacuzino, on 14 July 2020 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

Again, it's my monkey, my time, my work.

 

1500 hours of work times the average 30 euros/hour on EU plus expenses and penalties.

I'm entitled to over 50.000 euros in compensation.

 

You're gonna tell me it's just a game.

But the money is real and so is the time spent.

 

If they gonna act like a fraud, I'm gonna treat them like a fraud.

 

First of all, you are playing a game, the Tank in question ITSELF is not getting changed, so NO judge EVER will compensate you.

 

WG is NOT changing the premium Tank itself, as the stats of the tank remain the same after the rammer removal.

The fact that the rammer change certain stats of the tank is irrelevant as equipping the rammer is NOT mandatory, as the rammer is NOT part of the tank itself but a separate ingame item that can be obtained for ingame currency which you can obtain just by playing.

So, you have no grounds to sue them, and all it gonna do is, make WGs lawyers happy.

 

WG can, as stated in the EULA - to which you agreed to - change ANY Tech Tree tank at ANY time at their leisure, and does avoid USUALLY nerfing premium vehicles directly, as this would indeed require a compensation ( the value of the vehicle in premium ingame currency, i.e. Gold ) -  not the 50k Euros you pulled out of your arse. So, WG does the next best thing and changes the game mechanics around certain vehicles or makes global changes to the game which do not count towards compensation.

 

You can accept that, and move on, or you can contniue to post funny comments like this one, which are anything but grounded in reality and only show how miffed you are about losing 2% of your WR farmers. In any case, i'll get my popcorn, and enjoy the entertainment that this pearl of thread filled with rage and empty threats has brought me.

 

In case you really sue, pls post progress/ update posts, cause this gonna be gud (not for you tho). :teethhappy:

 

 

P.S. you might wanna read up what your rights are in this case (hint: you have the rioght to remain silent or weep silently in a corner of your choice)

P.P.S. nobody forced you to pay or play

P.P.P.S You might wanna read - or have someone explain to you what "fraud" means and how it doesn't apply in this situation

 


Edited by Jethro_Grey, 14 July 2020 - 11:25 AM.


Richthoffen #20 Posted 14 July 2020 - 11:28 AM

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I get why people get exited by the upcoming change, mainly because wg advertised with a rammer being a piece of equipment that could be mounted.

on the other hand, you bought the tank without rammer an got the rammer as a after market accessory not as part of the original deal payed separately with in game currency.

in short, wg did something we all regard as d*ck move but legally you probably have nothing to go on.







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