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Bravo_two_six #1 Posted 15 July 2020 - 08:43 PM

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So, I *was* looking forward to ranked, i've unlocked a few new tier 10s and become proficient in my existing ones.
So you could imagine my disappointment when I get through the placement matches to find that I can almost guarantee the enemy line up, almost down the the exact vehicles.

I know WG are 'trying to rebalance' some vehicles, but so far, i think i have seen a 430U and an EBR 105 in EVERY match, followed shortly by a Progetto 65 and a 277.

I know its about using the meta vehicles, but it gets so boring trying to use anything with armour or even just something that isnt one of those 4, because the horrendous gold spam just means there's no real point.

 

I think there needs to be some serious adjustments/ limitations to ranked in order to make it playable.

Like limiting gold ammo carried to a certain percentage (say 33%) so it actually means you have to skillfully decide when to use 'special' ammo. And arty style limits to the amounts of vehicles of the same type.



Kdingo #2 Posted 15 July 2020 - 11:58 PM

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Just don't play ranked. Its a mode to please a certain type of player, if you hate it then you aren't the target audience.


saxsan4 #3 Posted 16 July 2020 - 12:04 AM

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im gonna give it a try with my badger and manticore 

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Flavortown #4 Posted 16 July 2020 - 12:53 AM

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No, it doesnt need any other restrictions than removing arty.
This game doesnt need another armor meta period, just becouse bob and steve cant drive to the enemy base without taking damage. 

If you dont enjoy it dont play it, you only need to reach second division for the 50t and for the new concept 1b you need to finish the division. 

EdvinE20 #5 Posted 16 July 2020 - 01:14 AM

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There are very few people that enjoy ranked. In my opinion, World of Tanks as a game works best in its "random battle" environment where people play whatever they feel like playing. In ranked everything changes. Most people only do it for the rewards and would never touch the mode without them. If you can put up with it and progress, I would say it might be worth it in the end. But if not. Just don't bother. 

I doubt ranked will ever become truly enjoyable. But I must say that I like the changes WG have made. :great:



saxsan4 #6 Posted 16 July 2020 - 01:26 AM

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I played my first game, no one shoot gold ammo against me, it was fun actually in my manticore 

insanity4u #7 Posted 16 July 2020 - 05:28 AM

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Of course you go to ranked fully equiped with premium consumables and rounds. Still there are plenty of blocking opportunities even if enemies shoot gold. That is the only single player competitive mode. Players want to see how far they can progress. If you are stocked with consumables, you should be able to break even with the rewards ranked battles are providing.

Spurtung #8 Posted 16 July 2020 - 06:26 AM

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View PostEdvinE20, on 16 July 2020 - 01:14 AM, said:

Most people only do it for the rewards and would never touch the mode without them.

 

If you pair that with how they'll nerf earning bonds, then you'll quickly realize that such modes (frontline, steelhunter, ranked battles) will be the main sources to get massive amounts of bonds, basically forcing the playerbase into playing them thus "proving" how "popular" and "liked" those modes are.

 

For comparison, the total 68 tier X vehicles can earn a maximum of 3400 bonds a week while reaching ranks in the rank battles gets 8200 per season.


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fwhaatpiraat #9 Posted 16 July 2020 - 07:35 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 16 July 2020 - 06:26 AM, said:

For comparison, the total 68 tier X vehicles can earn a maximum of 3400 bonds a week while reaching ranks in the rank battles gets 8200 per season.

Legit



Gwynbleidd11 #10 Posted 16 July 2020 - 08:11 AM

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There is no "meta" tanks. Almost all T10 are balanced enough to be useful the same as these famous 430U or 277. This 277 is actually a crap tank, never had a problem to deal with them

NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 16 July 2020 - 08:43 AM

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WG need to give everyone a selection of rental tier 10 and lock them for a period of time after x amount of games. That would force a bit of variation into the MM and even the playing field. Ranked is supposed to be about individual skill after all.

Spurtung #12 Posted 16 July 2020 - 08:46 AM

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View PostGwynbleidd11, on 16 July 2020 - 08:11 AM, said:

There is no "meta" tanks. Almost all T10 are balanced enough to be useful the same as these famous 430U or 277. This 277 is actually a crap tank, never had a problem to deal with them

 

It depends on who's driving it.

You see, it has speed to go with the meds, and that can mean a really swift win in that flank.



eldrak #13 Posted 16 July 2020 - 08:55 AM

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I've played up to rank 9 third div so far and have loaded gold only once. My experience is that about half or less of those shooting at me have been firing gold.

 

I actually prefer to play ranked over randoms right now at high tiers. The skill level of the people playing randoms while avereage-good players are doing ranked or recovering from CW campaign is so low that all games are a coinflip. 



Homer_J #14 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:01 AM

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View PostBravo_two_six, on 15 July 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:


I know WG are 'trying to rebalance' some vehicles, but so far, i think i have seen a 430U and an EBR 105 in EVERY match, followed shortly by a Progetto 65 and a 277.

The community wanted reward tanks banning from ranked.  Some of us warned this would be the result, the community got what they wanted.

 

View PostEdvinE20, on 16 July 2020 - 01:14 AM, said:

There are very few people that enjoy ranked. In my opinion, World of Tanks as a game works best in its "random battle" environment where people play whatever they feel like playing. In ranked everything changes. Most people only do it for the rewards and would never touch the mode without them. If you can put up with it and progress, I would say it might be worth it in the end. But if not. Just don't bother. 

I doubt ranked will ever become truly enjoyable. But I must say that I like the changes WG have made. :great:

But but but, everybody wants a league system!

 

Until they get it and realise how bad it is and then have to be bribed to play it.

 

View PostFlavortown, on 16 July 2020 - 12:53 AM, said:

No, it doesnt need any other restrictions than removing arty.

No, what it needs is the special rewards for playing it removing then we will see if it stands on it's own or not.  Same with Front Line and every other new mode which has had artificially inflated player numbers due to special rewards which players believe they must have.



eldrak #15 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:10 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 16 July 2020 - 08:01 AM, said:

But but but, everybody wants a league system!

 

Until they get it and realise how bad it is and then have to be bribed to play it.

It's kinda nice in the higher divisions to play games where every player participates in battle and actually tries to the best of their ability, unlike how it is in randoms.

 

I think it would be interesting to see a true Ranked mode tested where winning is (almost) everything. 7vs7 would probably be better suited for it though.

 



Homer_J #16 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:20 AM

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View Posteldrak, on 16 July 2020 - 09:10 AM, said:

It's kinda nice in the higher divisions to play games where every player participates in battle and actually tries to the best of their ability, unlike how it is in randoms.

 

 

If it was truly ranked according to skill then a majority of the playerbase would never get there and only be frustrated and leave and then the whole system collapses.

 

Only bribery keeps the lower ranks filled.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:31 AM

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_Signal_ #18 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:36 AM

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For all those wanted Skill based MM in randoms play ranked and you'll get a taste of what it will be like.

Uh_Oh_ #19 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:40 AM

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Luckily i have no tier 10 yet so i am saved from the pain and woe of ranked for now.

If i were WG though i would make it so that nobody could use equipment or any consumables and that every tank had a 0 skill 100% crew. Then see who the best "skilled" players are

Japualtah #20 Posted 16 July 2020 - 09:56 AM

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Nonsense.

 

The only reason why people play a mode is for the rewards.

Considering WoT is always the same stuff, shoot at tanks and win or lose, there needs to be an incentive to play and Wargaming is doing a tremendous job offering so many different ways to keep players interested.

Clan wars, ratings, missions, ranked, you name it, we always have something to look for.

 

Ranked is no different and yesterday during qualis I seldom saw any 430U, they are very far from being over-represented, especially if you remember those times where we had like 6 batchats every game.

 

On a personal note, I would like 7x7 to become the norm, I like it much more than 15x15, probably because this mode makes maps larger for 2 reasons: less vehicles and less arties.






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