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The best gun appears to be quite good. If you do not have that good gun this tank is pretty useless.

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Its the worst medium tier 6 PERIOD! and compared to the vk36 an EPIC fail!
Grind it to the t-43 or kv-13 and sell it as soon as possible is my advice. As for the "TD in disguise" thing: The slugger aka Jackson aka M36 TD is a much better TD than this POS will ever be, look at aiming time, rate of fire and accuracy and do the math, or try the M36! it's actually quite fun.
To play a T-34/85 for any other reason than to grind to the mext tier,  you must either love the M part of SM or the history behind this machine!

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sp0q, on 08 January 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

It doesn't, no 57mm gun so it's really inaccurate and slow to reload, combined with aiming times that even german and american heavies doesn't suffer it's really not a good tank, no wonder so many where dug down on the border with china, it's only good stationary with its hull covered. :-D

Spaciak, on 26 January 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

I Kind if like this tank. I kept it as elite with the original crew on. I did the same for my T-34-57 for it's beautiful and fun machine gun (finally an accurate soviet gun.
THe turret is tough and you can really benefir from this against other T6 tanks. All other T6 tanks except for maybe KV3 are easily penetrated from almost every angle and the 100mm deals good damage for this tier. Compared to higher tiers you'll always be in the rough, but the gun stays with the medium line all the way to T-44 and is in use on IS and IS-3 as well (not that you should use it on IS-3..).
So your lower hull is crap, and the agility is somewhat mediocre, but still a nice tank that can dominate in T6 matches. I remember I hated to meet t-34-85 in my KV-13 since in a head to head shoot out he'd kill me first because of my crappy 85mm low damage gun.. (And I think I aimed poorly as well but..)

A keeper for me, but then again I haven't played other T6 meds..

Spaciak, on 26 January 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

I find T-34-85 really good tank. Good mobility and really nice gun.

Well aiming time is bad, but you could try to train your crew to 100%, put GLD and vents.

Archoney, on 27 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

I agree. 113 battle so far and I really like it. I had so fun with it that I unlocked the T-43 before realizing it
The 100mm gun is nice and you can snipe with it, despite the bad accuracy.

You don't play it like a medium. You play it like a TD with a turret. You have a great gun so use it at its fullest by sniping guys/support heavies. T-34-85 doesn't have the mobility and the accuracy while moving to be used like a full fledged medium tank (flanking,scouting etc.) It's very easy to win credits if you use it as a TD, D10T can pen a lot of things and do great damage.

SuperiorBeen, on 01 February 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Not entirely true. It's only your decision to use the inaccurate gun which makes it heavier and less accurate on the move.

With the best 85 it's better at flanking and sniping. Both guns work well. They do however perform at their best in different situations.

hi, i read the whole thread, and so if i want to play it as a flanker (like i played the T-34 and i loved it) its better to buy the 85mm than the 100mm, right?

D4nny, on 21 February 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

The best 85 is a gun that is faster firing (a miss hurts less) has more DPM and is more accurate.

100mm is better damage per shot and has higher penetration (easier to pen from the front)

That's all I can say. Which one you'll prefer depends on your style of play.

T34-85 bad?

LOL!

Check the penetration for a T6 medium Tank!
U can hit almost any tank in the game, and most of them frontally!

Notice that being T6 med, u can fight against T8/9 Heavies (Crappy Matchmaker)...

Lacks of mobility, armor (like almost all meds ingame), and long range precision.

Best used like an american Turret TD or support tank and aiming vs Heavies..

Stay close to Heavies or in 2nd line.

Trying to rush alone / brawl / fast scout / 1vs1 without cover / snipe from 400+ mts -> Facepalm

quaketorres, on 22 February 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

What are you talking about the 85mm pretty much the most precise gun in Soviet mediums. At 0.32 precision it has no problem hitting stuff.
You're probably talking about the 100mm gun which is pretty much the only gun at tier 6 medium that has higher penetration then the best 85mm

TekumzeWolf, on 22 February 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Of course 100mm gun..

85mm isnt bad..but lacks of penetration..
That gun has the same issues than short 88mm mounted in T6 german tanks...nice aiming, precision and reloading, but lacks of penetration -> almost useless in high tiered battles, pretty good vs < T7 tanks.

Greets!

quaketorres, on 22 February 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Tier 7 is no problem at all even frontally. It's only tier 8 that starts to be problematic (apart from French tanks) and even those are not that much of an issue if you don't shoot at their frontal armor.

What you're basically saying is that all tier 6 are pants since apart from T-34-85 which gets 100m gun they all have lower penetration then the best 85.

I personally prefer the 85 simply because a platoon of T-34-85 equipped with 85mm guns will nearly always beat a similar platoon equipped with 100mm gun. The DPM and accuracy is just that much better. My main problem are tier 8+ mediums which are hard to penetrate from the front and more agile as well so it's hard to flank them.

Personally i play it with the 100mm, mostly due to MM dropping me in high tier battles so often. I do tend to treat it as a system for getting the 100mm in a spot to shoot, at short to med ranges, rather than anything else, assume no real armour, and i find it works, its not a tank with a gun, its a gun that you can move around with, oh and you do need a 100% crew for the 100mm. I do not mean use it as a TD, thats a differnt play style, but its all about the gun, not the tank.

TekumzeWolf, on 22 February 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

I'm saying that's the only T6 MEDIUM that with 100mm gun, can be a serius threat agaist most of the heavies. U can penetrate IS3s and T29/32, evend KTs from 2nd line and 300+ mts without aiming weakspots..Besides, u can pass frontally through 3002/KV13/T44 armors without too much bouncing..and hit the sides of an E75/100 or the front of an Obj704 without too much prob.

IMO, no other T6 medium can do it pretty often as T34/85 does.
Of course, the price for it is sacrificing most of the med tanks advantages, such as Rof and mobility and also in 1vs1 med combat the odds're against you, but imo for random battles worths it.

Greets.

quaketorres, on 22 February 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

At 300m+ I was lucky lucky to hit anything with the 100mm gun so aiming at weakspots is out of the question anyways.

The horrible accuracy is what drove me to 85 in the first place(that and the fact that I once killed 2 nearly full hp T-34-85 tanks in a close range brawl). I actually dinged more with 100mm because it was so inaccurate.
In my experience penetrating tier 8 heavys from the front with 175mm is usually very unreliable unless you're hitting a weakspot.

It seems like our play styles differ enough so that I can be ways more effective with the 85mm then with the 100mm.

quaketorres, on 22 February 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

I agree with it. T34-85 is a fine 2nd line support tank, wich can be quite a pain in the a.. for anything except Maus, with its 100 gun.

Well after 79 battles and a win ratio of 37% I can still say I really don't get on with this tank. Sure I'm enjoying it more than I was before but it still doesn't grab me in the way that other tanks do. Being a bit of an idiot I'll still keep it in my garage and then slower grind it up to the T-43. Only 27k of exp to grind in a a tank I don't like for a tank I probably won't like

Started to have better results in it after finding out how awesome american T20 is. Stick to its playstyle, T-34 ways are nowhere near.