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saxsan4 #1 Posted 17 July 2020 - 03:21 PM

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Hello,

 

Ive been away in Newcastle and is it true that proegetto is getting buffs to incorporate rammer AND an extra slot??

 

If so this is fanatic news! 



OniichanSenpai #2 Posted 17 July 2020 - 03:25 PM

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Yeah seems my thread (and the Russian community complaints) had an impact.

saxsan4 #3 Posted 17 July 2020 - 03:27 PM

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 17 July 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:

Yeah seems my thread (and the Russian community complaints) had an impact.


FANTASTIC NEWS!!! I had hoped they would just let it keep the rammer but this is even better

 

WG thank you for listening to the community, I will now buy an extra premium tank from you



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:


FANTASTIC NEWS!!! 

 

Yes but actually no



saxsan4 #5 Posted 17 July 2020 - 03:36 PM

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View Postroboslash, on 17 July 2020 - 02:32 PM, said:

 

Yes but actually no


as someone who recently bought the tank I am very happy



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 03:21 PM, said:

Hello,

 

Ive been away in Newcastle and is it true that proegetto is getting buffs to incorporate rammer AND an extra slot??

 

If so this is fanatic news! 

WG thought it wasn't good enough and popular enough, so they buffed it so more buys it when it comes to premium shop soon.



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 03:36 PM, said:


as someone who recently bought the tank I am very happy

 

I understand, but I find it unsettling that people do not see what implications this change represents, on a larger scale.



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View Postroboslash, on 17 July 2020 - 02:42 PM, said:

 

I understand, but I find it unsettling that people do not see what implications this change represents, on a larger scale.


I dont see any issues, it makes buying premiums safer now as we know they won't nerf them



Balc0ra #9 Posted 17 July 2020 - 03:55 PM

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 17 July 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

Yeah seems my thread (and the Russian community complaints) had an impact.

 

Well as it stands now on CT with the bond vents on the mobility slot that gives 8.5. With food and BIA on top of it. It gets 6.2 seconds on the first shot. My current Progetto on live with bond rammers, vents, bia and food gets 6.1 seconds as none of the slots gives a bonus on top of it. So basically, they made it stronger if a rammer suddenly appears? Interesting. 

 

View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:


I dont see any issues, it makes buying premiums safer now as we know they won't nerf them

 

Well... this is the second premium in a short time they wanted to nerf. And again a call to arms was needed to stop it. So whos to say it won't happen again? 


Edited by Balc0ra, 17 July 2020 - 03:57 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 July 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

 

Well as it stands now on CT with the bond vents on the mobility slot that gives 8.5. With food and BIA on top of it. It gets 6.2 seconds on the first shot. My current Progetto on live with bond rammers, vents, bia and food gets 6.1 seconds as none of the slots gives a bonus on top of it. So basically, they made it stronger if a rammer suddenly appears? Interesting. 

 

 

Well... this is the second premium in a short time they wanted to nerf. And again a call to arms was needed to stop it. So whos to say it won't happen again? 


I at least know we can rely on the RU server to stop nerfs

 

They tried to nerf kv5 and was stopped

 

 



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 02:45 PM, said:


I dont see any issues, it makes buying premiums safer now as we know they won't nerf them

 

When the game is dead in the water and everyone has uninstalled due to the inept balancing and lack of forward-thinking, have fun playing your OP premium vs 14 actual bots not humans.


Edited by Rati_Festa, 17 July 2020 - 04:01 PM.


saxsan4 #12 Posted 17 July 2020 - 04:02 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 17 July 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

 

When the game is dead in the water and everyone had uninstalled due to the inept balancing and lack of forward-thinking, have fun playing your OP premium vs 14 actual bots not humans.


suits me fine, I have been having great fun with this game recently 

 

In wows I only play against bots too as humans are too hard



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:


I at least know we can rely on the RU server to stop nerfs

 

They tried to nerf kv5 and was stopped

 

 

 

Exactly. And if they do that to a tank you love, but not many care about or even play. Less voices will be heard or complain about it, and they will still do it I suspect. Vs the horde you had now. 



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It's simple guys, they can *NOT* change the effective parameters of premium tanks, that would breach the sales contract of people who bought it with a certain set of parameters or characteristics.

Why are you surprised? Wargaming has only ever nerfed a T8 premium tank without giving compensation for it.

 

Now, I agree the Proghetto was too good and the FL-10 is very effective, but this is hopefully a lesson for WG that introducing "very good" premium tanks has long term damaging effects on the game which you can not change without giving a full refund.

 

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Bear in mind this is only CT2, they could decide to give it the rammer and old stats back yet.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 July 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:

 

Well as it stands now on CT with the bond vents on the mobility slot that gives 8.5. With food and BIA on top of it. It gets 6.2 seconds on the first shot. My current Progetto on live with bond rammers, vents, bia and food gets 6.1 seconds as none of the slots gives a bonus on top of it. So basically, they made it stronger if a rammer suddenly appears? Interesting. 

 

 

Well... this is the second premium in a short time they wanted to nerf. And again a call to arms was needed to stop it. So whos to say it won't happen again? 

It was extremely dissatisfying that they didn't nerf it.

 

Let's hope WG goes through with next premium tank nerf.

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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:


I at least know we can rely on the RU server to stop nerfs

 

They tried to nerf kv5 and was stopped

 

 

You got nothing at all to support the claim that WG listened to the community.



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If they buff all under powered tanks by a lot I am fine with that. Tech tree tanks should be better than all premium tanks!

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 17 July 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:

Yeah seems my thread (and the Russian community complaints) had an impact.

haha, your thread.. you are joking right? eu forum has exactly 0 impact on this game, dont be naive. 



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 17 July 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

It was extremely dissatisfying that they didn't nerf it.

 

Let's hope WG goes through with next premium tank nerf.

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You got nothing at all to support the claim that WG listened to the community.


did you see how many threads and messages were sent to wot especially on the RU server about this? 

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View PostHomer_J, on 17 July 2020 - 03:13 PM, said:

Bear in mind this is only CT2, they could decide to give it the rammer and old stats back yet.


that would be sensible too, just as long as it doesnt get dpm nerf



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View Postsaxsan4, on 17 July 2020 - 04:49 PM, said:


did you see how many threads and messages were sent to wot especially on the RU server about this? 

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that would be sensible too, just as long as it doesnt get dpm nerf

And why would WG care about those threads, in general WG doesn't care at all about balance or forum threads.

 

 

More likely.

 

WG financial guy came to WG balance guy and said, we have Progetto sale for next month, so can you just buff the Progetto before to increase sales. And WG balance department said. Of course we can.


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