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_RedOrDead #1 Posted 17 July 2020 - 05:57 PM

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Hello tankers

 

Out of IS-5 and KV4 Kresl which is the best first of all and second, are they worth buying for 10,000 bonds???

 

Thanks in advance

 

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arthurwellsley #2 Posted 17 July 2020 - 06:09 PM

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I have had an IS5 for many years now. When I first had it I would play it in team battles. Of the two it was the slightly better choice back in the day. Now both are completely useless and power creep has destroyed them as useful tanks. If I had 10,000 bonds to spend (I have 40k) I would not spend a single one on either the IS5 of the KV4 Kresl.

 

Better to use those 10,000 bonds on (a) directives that you will use on tanks you enjoy playing or (b) purple equipment on your favourite tanks that you play most often. That is the best value for those bonds. I have not played my IS5 in at east a year. The buffed IS3, the IS2-II, and the Defender/Object 252U are all way better than the IS5. I suspect even the slight pene buff the IS6 received would make it a more enjoyable tank to play than the IS5.


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UrQuan #3 Posted 17 July 2020 - 06:40 PM

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If you want a KV-4Kreslavsky, just get the tech tree KV-4. It is just plain better. Better armor layout, better gun stats.

 

And from what Arthur says, it seems the IS-5 isn't much better, so best save up those bonds for something else & get the originals (IS-3/KV-4) instead of their expensive knockoffs (IS-5/KV-4)

 

Glory to the KV-4!

 

 


Edited by UrQuan, 17 July 2020 - 06:43 PM.


Balc0ra #4 Posted 17 July 2020 - 07:47 PM

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Seen a massive spike of IS-5's in randoms, as they are in more or less every tier 8 game now. They do fine most matches if the MM is nice. Tho they seem to struggle vs the more recently added armor.

 

But... Not seen a single KV-4 K yet. As I kinda wanted to see how those faired. As I've only ever seen one. As in the day it was rewarded. Never since. 



pihip #5 Posted 17 July 2020 - 08:17 PM

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Ignore the KV-4 Kreslavskyy, it's inferior to the techtree KV-4 and one of the worse reward premiums (even right after release, it was very rare to see one in game).

IS-5 is the better deal, gun is potato (kind of like the IS-3A gun before it got the autoreloader) but the armor is quite good for a Tier 8. Still overpriced imho, should've been 8k bonds like the other Tier 8s.

Or, you can invest in bond equipment or save bonds for better tanks.

anonym_7hNS5KqA9EHZ #6 Posted 18 July 2020 - 10:43 AM

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none, both trash.

falcon_96 #7 Posted 18 July 2020 - 10:57 AM

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I considered buying the IS-5, but when i looked it up in tanks gg... Well it seems to just be an IS-3A with a better upper plate armor but without the autoreloader. The same terrible gun handling, almost the same meh mobility(in theory IS-5 should be faster, but the terrain resistances are worse so it is faster but not by much), oh and you also get slightly worse reload than the IS-3A when firing dry clip single shot. It is not worth even 8k bonds let alone 10k.

saxsan4 #8 Posted 18 July 2020 - 11:08 AM

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`don't get the IS5- the gun handling is sooo awful

gajatuzo #9 Posted 27 October 2020 - 02:19 AM

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i am wondering same thing is5 or kv4 for bond since i need premium to train my rusian tank crews and well 2 of them don't ask money. both look like trash but i need lesser trash. so far is 5 is in lead. i got is2s and i despise his gun so if is5 is better than him well i will take it. but yep it costs lots and idk what to do. and that guard medium any words on him? 

Marco_Is_Legend2019 #10 Posted 27 October 2020 - 02:36 AM

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View Postgajatuzo, on 27 October 2020 - 02:19 AM, said:

i am wondering same thing is5 or kv4 for bond since i need premium to train my rusian tank crews and well 2 of them don't ask money. both look like trash but i need lesser trash. so far is 5 is in lead. i got is2s and i despise his gun so if is5 is better than him well i will take it. but yep it costs lots and idk what to do. and that guard medium any words on him? 

 

The gun handling of the IS-5 is more or less the same as the IS-2s. If you can deal with that then it's an okay tank. The Guard is basically a sniper with good accuracy and alpha. It's easier and more comfortable to play than the IS-5.



UNFAIR_GAME_8 #11 Posted 27 October 2020 - 02:41 AM

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i get the IS-5 by 10000 bonds. its craptank no one bounce me its not have armor i lose my 10000 bonds for no thing

StronkiTonki #12 Posted 27 October 2020 - 06:12 AM

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Both are pretty trash honestly.

The IS-5 has the more competetive alpha, but trash gun handling and accuracy, even for a russian havy.

Like I literally missed a stock turreted KV-4 cupola like 5 shots in a row or something stupid like that.

 

Also big warning about the IS-5: The turret roof is an easy overmatch, so even hulldown this tank is trash if your enemy knows where to shoot.

I had to find out about this the hard way way when I was fighting a Löwe hulldown on banana alley on Himmelsdorf.

 

KV-4 Kres also just generally has trash armor. That upper plate is absolutely ridiculously weak, and there's a big bupola as well and plenty of other green spots on the turret.

It absolutely begs to get penned.


Edited by StronkiTonki, 27 October 2020 - 06:16 AM.


Obsessive_Compulsive #13 Posted 27 October 2020 - 06:44 AM

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Has anyone tested a full gun handling build on the IS5 since equipment 2.0? I do wonder if it is not reedemable.

Cobra6 #14 Posted 27 October 2020 - 09:47 AM

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Regular KV-4 is better then KV-4 Kres.

Regular IS-3 is pretty much better then IS-5, IS-5 has an absolutely atrocious potato launcher of a gun.

 

Out of the two, go for the IS-5 because at least then you have mobility.

 

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ZeroKelvin #15 Posted 27 October 2020 - 05:05 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 17 July 2020 - 05:09 PM, said:

(b) purple equipment on your favourite tanks that you play most often

 

yep, KV2 with Bounty ÎRM, Purple Rammer and Vents =0


Edited by ZeroKelvin, 27 October 2020 - 05:07 PM.


shikaka9 #16 Posted 28 October 2020 - 12:57 PM

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now I want IS-5 :honoring:

StronkiTonki #17 Posted 28 October 2020 - 08:38 PM

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View PostObsessive_Compulsive, on 27 October 2020 - 05:44 AM, said:

Has anyone tested a full gun handling build on the IS5 since equipment 2.0? I do wonder if it is not reedemable.

 

I played with stabilizer, rotation mechanism and rammer.

Still thinking of also giving it improved aiming, since this gun can't hit the broadside of a barn.



gajatuzo #18 Posted 29 October 2020 - 12:31 PM

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so all are crap kv4 kresl and is5 and is6. i will train then crew on that stupid is2s. thanks for suggestions and expirience. 

shikaka9 #19 Posted 29 October 2020 - 12:35 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 28 October 2020 - 11:57 AM, said:

now I want IS-5 :honoring:

*watches IS-5 youtube video*

 

now I don't :teethhappy:



ZeroKelvin #20 Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:04 PM

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View Postgajatuzo, on 29 October 2020 - 11:31 AM, said:

so all are crap kv4 kresl and is5 and is6. i will train then crew on that stupid is2s. thanks for suggestions and expirience. 

the IS2S is pretty sweet






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