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stormermp #1 Posted 19 July 2020 - 06:49 PM

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There is too much broken in this game.Outright broken vehicle balance,broken premium balancing around money and sales quotas,broken artillery which has TD efficiency at destroying whole HP's of tanks with crew and modules alike,broken policies of nerf/buff this/that when we feel like it (RU feedback),broken MM which does not include player RATING's which in turns creates broken matches or washout games(15:2,15.5,15:1,15,0)results which is selfdefeating and unenjoyable for a ''competitive'' game.How much broken things have you counted and do you have something to add to this list?how is it possible that WG hasn't balanced out the game in 10 years time and all the money they have gained,this is just a heavy mismanagement and short term business policies that takes a toll on long term playerbase and player count future or present in general.

DaniulSims #2 Posted 19 July 2020 - 07:08 PM

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Oh no, randoms matches are random.

malachi6 #3 Posted 19 July 2020 - 08:22 PM

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It's an opinion.  A difficult to read opinion with no supporting evidence.  

 

Also, 10 years is short-term?


Edited by malachi6, 19 July 2020 - 08:22 PM.


BravelyRanAway #4 Posted 19 July 2020 - 10:42 PM

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Why don't you just vote with your feet, you obviously don't enjoy the game.

stormermp #5 Posted 19 July 2020 - 10:50 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 19 July 2020 - 09:42 PM, said:

Why don't you just vote with your feet, you obviously don't enjoy the game.

By judging at your battle count you don't either,played 25k battles in 9 years.And your comment contribute nothing to the topic,which is also unconstructive and off-topic



BravelyRanAway #6 Posted 19 July 2020 - 10:57 PM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 09:50 PM, said:

By judging at your battle count you don't either,played 25k battles in 9 years.And your comment contribute nothing to the topic,which is also unconstructive and off-topic

Oh...I didn't realise there was a set amount of battles to play over a period of time. But with your 53K + I'm sure WG know you inside out, and complain as you will, you'll keep playing regardless, sending the signal to WG that everything is peachy! Well done!:great:



stormermp #7 Posted 19 July 2020 - 11:41 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 19 July 2020 - 09:57 PM, said:

Oh...I didn't realise there was a set amount of battles to play over a period of time. But with your 53K + I'm sure WG know you inside out, and complain as you will, you'll keep playing regardless, sending the signal to WG that everything is peachy! Well done!:great:

As i said earlier you contribute nothing to the discussion,stick to the topic or don't post at all.



Tommy_Atkins_Teapot #8 Posted 20 July 2020 - 12:14 AM

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Dear Stormermp

A company targeting a community to maximise profits is not new.

Wg balance dept is working as Wg intended, however i support your objections to the 15-2 etc rolfstomps that seem to be the norm. 

These ridiculous farces, that have become far to prevalent need addressing.  I have got no issue winning or loosing a battle, but i far more enjoy a tight match that goes to the wire, than take an easy win, or get fcuked over in 4 mins flat. It would seem to me, that there are an imbalance of skills in the matchmaking process. 

For me this is where i have lost most of my enjoyment for the game, and also the removal of Team Battles was a major loss in my eyes.

Regards

Tommy



BravelyRanAway #9 Posted 20 July 2020 - 12:55 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 10:41 PM, said:

As i said earlier you contribute nothing to the discussion,stick to the topic or don't post at all.

All you ever do is whinge....hardly a top class topic, it's your usual offering.

After your 53K battles, you can't come to terms with being just an average player. I got to that point in less than half that, but I don't look around for something else to blame. By the way, I still enjoy the game otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Have you no self-control or dignity?  to keep playing something you clearly dislike? 

It appears WG know how to push your buttons....you're all talk no action.....or too much!:teethhappy:


Edited by BravelyRanAway, 20 July 2020 - 12:56 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 20 July 2020 - 03:02 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 11:41 PM, said:

As i said earlier you contribute nothing to the discussion,stick to the topic or don't post at all.

 

Contributing to the post, you get exactly the same MM, teams, maps, RNG etc. as everybody else does. Perfect balance. 

 

If you can't do anything with that then it's down to operator deficiency and WG can't patch that out.



ZlatanArKung #11 Posted 20 July 2020 - 05:30 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 06:49 PM, said:

There is too much broken in this game.Outright broken vehicle balance,broken premium balancing around money and sales quotas,broken artillery which has TD efficiency at destroying whole HP's of tanks with crew and modules alike,broken policies of nerf/buff this/that when we feel like it (RU feedback),broken MM which does not include player RATING's which in turns creates broken matches or washout games(15:2,15.5,15:1,15,0)results which is selfdefeating and unenjoyable for a ''competitive'' game.How much broken things have you counted and do you have something to add to this list?how is it possible that WG hasn't balanced out the game in 10 years time and all the money they have gained,this is just a heavy mismanagement and short term business policies that takes a toll on long term playerbase and player count future or present in general.

WG doesn't balance the game because they get more cash for selling premium tanks that are OP and by keeping their game inblanaced. At least they think so.

 

But the player numbers are declining.



malachi6 #12 Posted 20 July 2020 - 06:15 AM

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The problem with your comments is it is a list of things you think are wrong with no supporting evidence.  For example, you say the MM does not include player rating; why should it? I assume you want it to make the MM "fair".  The thing is, given enough battles, the MM is fair.  If the distribution of players ability can be described by a bell curve, randomly picking players from the queue is likely to reflect that curve.  The current system allows low ability players the opportunity to do really well sometimes, with the random nature of the game and its mechanics. A ranked system would appear to always make less skilled players supporting players; unless you are suggesting segregation (I don't know, you have not said.),  which creates issues for good and bad players (stat normalisation).

 

I understand you may not have solutions to the issues you propose, but you could help with the diagnosis or troubleshooting by laying out details.  Try going to the doctor and saying I have pain and saying nothing else.

 

Also, why is 10 years short term?  Seriously, what period qualifies as short term?  The military can propose, design, build, test and deploy a new fighter in that period.

 



shikaka9 #13 Posted 20 July 2020 - 06:21 AM

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balance is now

Kdingo #14 Posted 20 July 2020 - 09:18 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 20 July 2020 - 06:15 AM, said:

A ranked system would appear to always make less skilled players supporting players; unless you are suggesting segregation (I don't know, you have not said.),  which creates issues for good and bad players (stat normalisation).

 

 

In all honesty this skill based mm stuff for randoms seems to always come from potatos/tomatos/sprouts that pursue a equality of outcome idea.

The "can't/won't get better but still want to win more often" kinda people.

The overall quality of games drops at times but no skill mm rigging would fix that, as the roots of the issue is a different one.



Bordhaw #15 Posted 20 July 2020 - 11:00 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 05:49 PM, said:

how is it possible that WG hasn't balanced out the game in 10 years time and all the money they have gained,this is just a heavy mismanagement and short term business policies that takes a toll on long term playerbase and player count future or present in general.


Why should WG fix anything if players such as yourself.. keep playing regardless. 



stormermp #16 Posted 20 July 2020 - 11:30 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 20 July 2020 - 10:00 AM, said:


Why should WG fix anything if players such as yourself.. keep playing regardless. 

It doesn't,i'd be perfectly happy if another game with tanks came along for me to move on from this cesspool.Look around the forum there are daily posts like mine,and there is less money for WG globally counting the playerbase where it will end up on CIS last where it came from in the end.



UserZer00 #17 Posted 20 July 2020 - 11:41 PM

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Randoms are balanced long term
- it's normal to have winning and losing streak (of which people only complain about the losing streaks)
- 15 - 2, 3, 4 matches are a result of increased speed within the game, not the MM.  But the overall balance of the MM hasn't really changed.

If you want controlled game play game to game play skirmishes and not ranked.  Here you will see results more directly linked with the skills of the two teams involved.

It's far from a perfect game, but it's still a lot of fun.  If you disagree you are welcome to find your fun elsewhere.  No one is forcing you to keep playing.

You can even take a break and come back later. The game is flexible that way.  They'll keep all your tanks ready for you should you choose to return.



DaniulSims #18 Posted 21 July 2020 - 01:44 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 21 July 2020 - 12:30 AM, said:

It doesn't,i'd be perfectly happy if another game with tanks came along for me to move on from this cesspool.Look around the forum there are daily posts like mine,and there is less money for WG globally counting the playerbase where it will end up on CIS last where it came from in the end.

Like AW? or WT? why didn't you move to those?



LethalWalou #19 Posted 21 July 2020 - 06:14 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 19 July 2020 - 09:50 PM, said:

By judging at your battle count you don't either,played 25k battles in 9 years.And your comment contribute nothing to the topic,which is also unconstructive and off-topic

 

You have been asked the same question about why you keep playing the game countless of times, and I've never seen you actually answer it. You're always just avoiding answering it. So, again, why don't you just stop playing the game since you hate it and the devs so much?


Edited by LethalWalou, 21 July 2020 - 06:14 AM.


GalmTwo #20 Posted 21 July 2020 - 09:29 AM

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We can complain about it till the cows come home. Balance will not happen. Get with the times.





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