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TheNightFox #1 Posted 24 July 2020 - 04:52 PM

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I'm surprised nobody asked this yet. I see quite a few of these tanks lately since they are kind of easy to get, so I hope some owners will reply. I can read the stats, but from someone who actually played the tank, is it a pleasant experience? Is it worth it? I'm not asking if it's worth it's price, that's relative anyway, but rather do you enjoy playing it, is it a valuable addition to your garage? I'm an average player, 1400WN8, usually more on recents. So I have to ask, do you think it would also work for a non-unicum? 

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Im not unicum but here is my 2 cents. got it last season but have not played that many games with it. BUT the games I have played, Im liking the tank. At the start it got the same focusfire as chieftain, but nowdays its not that bad.

As for the question, will non-unicum get it to work.. well if you get things done in tier 9 mediums as in general, you will with this too.



StronkiTonki #3 Posted 24 July 2020 - 08:19 PM

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I don't have it yet myself. So I can't share my own experience yet.

But from what I heard, it's probably the best tank that is currently available for bonds.

 

To me, it looks a bit like a Leopard PTA with turret armor, but a worse gun at 320 alpha.

Still had amazing pen, aim time and accuracy though. Definitely looking forward to picking it up in one of the next ranked seasons.



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View PostTheNightFox, on 24 July 2020 - 06:52 PM, said:

I'm surprised nobody asked this yet

 

http://forum.worldof...st__p__17946774



TheNightFox #5 Posted 24 July 2020 - 08:44 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 24 July 2020 - 08:21 PM, said:

You are right. However, I'm glad of the feedback on this thread, because I got answers to my personal concerns vis a vis this tank. 


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tajj7 #6 Posted 25 July 2020 - 11:03 AM

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One of the best tier 9 meds IMO, it's just a very good all rounder. DPM and alpha are a little on the meh side, but ok for tier 9 because you face a lot of tier 8s where you'll still have an alpha/DPM advantage over many meds. 

 

Its fast, it's decently accurate, the gun handling is solid, its got good frontal armour, decent gun depression, good standard pen. 



fwhaatpiraat #7 Posted 25 July 2020 - 11:09 AM

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Not worth the struggles of ranked imo.

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 25 July 2020 - 10:09 AM, said:

Not worth the struggles of ranked imo.

 

To be fair you only have to play the 20 qualification battles and can then buy it for 20k bonds, so you don't have to play much ranked really. 

 

My bad you have to get through Div 3, still IMO not that much effort, maybe 60-70 battles in total. 


Edited by tajj7, 25 July 2020 - 07:41 PM.


tall_paul #9 Posted 25 July 2020 - 07:23 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 July 2020 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

To be fair you only have to play the 20 qualification battles and can then buy it for 20k bonds, so you don't have to play much ranked really. 

 

If only it were that easy.  You also have to get to Division 2.



DreadPirateRobert #10 Posted 25 July 2020 - 07:24 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 July 2020 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

To be fair you only have to play the 20 qualification battles and can then buy it for 20k bonds, so you don't have to play much ranked really. 

 

20k bonds for a tier 9 tank is too much in my opinion.

It also seems that bond equipment will be more relevant with 1.10, so I would not waste bonds on a tier 9 tank.

I'm personally not interested in that tank because I think it's very ugly and I doubt that German engineers would have ever build such an abomination. Just another scifi/fantasy tank...


Edited by DreadPirateRobert, 25 July 2020 - 07:28 PM.


fwhaatpiraat #11 Posted 25 July 2020 - 07:28 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 July 2020 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

To be fair you only have to play the 20 qualification battles and can then buy it for 20k bonds, so you don't have to play much ranked really. 

Really? 

20 battles and I'm done? If that's the case I want it, because I don't really need the bonds. Ofcourse there will always be something nicer later on, but I don't mind taking that 'risk'.



SharpBlue #12 Posted 25 July 2020 - 07:28 PM

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Yes.

 

 

 



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View Posttall_paul, on 25 July 2020 - 06:23 PM, said:

 

If only it were that easy.  You also have to get to Division 2.

 

My bad you do, but still, not that bad IMO. Considering people who got it previously had to pretty much get to Div 1 3 times IIRC. 

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 25 July 2020 - 06:28 PM, said:

Really? 

20 battles and I'm done? If that's the case I want it, because I don't really need the bonds. Ofcourse there will always be something nicer later on, but I don't mind taking that 'risk'.

 

I got it wrong, you need to finish div 3 as well, so for you it would probably be about 50 - 60 games I reckon, maybe less


Edited by tajj7, 25 July 2020 - 07:42 PM.


fwhaatpiraat #14 Posted 25 July 2020 - 07:46 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 July 2020 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

My bad you do, but still, not that bad IMO. Considering people who got it previously had to pretty much get to Div 1 3 times IIRC. 

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I got it wrong, you need to finish div 3 as well, so for you it would probably be about 50 - 60 games I reckon, maybe less

Hmm. :/  Thx anyway for the info



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 25 July 2020 - 07:46 PM, said:

Hmm. :/  Thx anyway for the info

 

I decided to do it this morning, wasn't hard to do. After qualification you get a bunch of chevron boosters that double your chevrons whenever you get one so you can get up to four if you win well and that will blitz thru the ranks quickly. Took me 45 games total and even made a couple million credits profit from the rank rewards. Job done.



BlackBloodBandit #16 Posted 25 July 2020 - 10:18 PM

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I most likely won't be able to get it and it's not worth it for me either. The frustration the amount of braindead players gives is too much to even try to get there. Constantly getting teams where several people not even play the mode. I only want the bonds and gold, that's it.

no_skill_bob #17 Posted 25 July 2020 - 10:29 PM

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anyway what so special about it? apart from it being somewhat exclusive as a ranked reward? i really have no issues dealing with them, when i meet them in randoms.

it really doesnt have much over t55a for example - t55a has better dpm, better HEAT, better gun handling, better overall mobility - only top speed is better on kpz, i guess that -8 degrees of depression is what makes that tank good. because turret armor on its own is no better than on t54/55

 



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View Postno_skill_bob, on 25 July 2020 - 10:29 PM, said:

anyway what so special about it? apart from it being somewhat exclusive as a ranked reward? i really have no issues dealing with them, when i meet them in randoms.

it really doesnt have much over t55a for example - t55a has better dpm, better HEAT, better gun handling, better overall mobility - only top speed is better on kpz, i guess that -8 degrees of depression is what makes that tank good. because turret armor on its own is no better than on t54/55

 

Better penetration on standard round. Not everyone spams premium ammo. Better gun depression is a big one ofcourse. Turret and upper plate are very strong. T30 can't penetrate the upper plate reliably.



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 25 July 2020 - 11:35 PM, said:

Better penetration on standard round. Not everyone spams premium ammo. Better gun depression is a big one ofcourse. Turret and upper plate are very strong. T30 can't penetrate the upper plate reliably.

sure, but the thing is, that usually when 220ap is not enough, its quite likely that 268apcr wont be either, but sure 268 apcr is great.

about t30, sure when it has its upper plate at an autobounce angle by using its full gun depression pretty much, otherwise, not really? anyway why shoot upper plate at an autobounce angle, when you can through the turret front :)

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im not saying t54/55 doesnt have weakspots on a turret, but its not like kpz is godlike tank, worth grinding your butt off ;)

its probably more of a thing that people dont know where to shoot it, rather than it being so damn good.

 


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View Postno_skill_bob, on 25 July 2020 - 09:29 PM, said:

anyway what so special about it? apart from it being somewhat exclusive as a ranked reward? i really have no issues dealing with them, when i meet them in randoms.

it really doesnt have much over t55a for example - t55a has better dpm, better HEAT, better gun handling, better overall mobility - only top speed is better on kpz, i guess that -8 degrees of depression is what makes that tank good. because turret armor on its own is no better than on t54/55

 

 

Armour is vastly better, not only does the turret have a smaller weakspot (and is not weak round the gun like the T-55A), plus you can actually use it because you have gun depression, but the hull armour is 240-260 effective on the flat, its like 300 plus with the gun depression. So not only can you hull down way better, but your hull will bounce as well, which means you can peak more.

 

And of course if people don't aim carefully in the open you will bounce more as well, and you can face hug bully people because of the hull armour. Whereas the T-55A hull won't bounce most tier 7s. 

 

Plus you don't need to spam HEAT, you have proper fast APCR rounds for the nice shell velocity and its much faster at getting places.

 

It also has better camo.

 

The rest of the stats are similar that they don't really matter. The only real advantage the T-55A has is DPM, but the 50t is just an all round superior tank IMO.  In the current meta it does most roles better, it gets places faster, will bounce more, can bully more, works ridges better, can hit EBRs more easily and is a better spotter. 

 

 


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