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no_human #1 Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:15 PM

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what do you think?



saxsan4 #2 Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:22 PM

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no mod, no ambit no amount of skill or cheating will over ride rng, if rng says yes then it will hit in this situation considering most of the aim circe is not on the is3

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Balc0ra #3 Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:24 PM

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On that image alone? Well, you usually need more than a slow choppy gif to get the full story. And that won't show anything on the auto shot tbh. That would be a 0% sure thing to prove on that alone. 

 

On the aimbot, I'm gonna say no. Why? The common sign of an aimbot is that the two sights don't work together. The gunsight always jumps around seemingly on his own accord vs the bigger main aim. Here the main was aiming at a point, and the gun sight came around with the turret traverse and aligned with its centre and did stop over it, just as it should be. And fired once the target was far enough over it. 

 

 



no_human #4 Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:35 PM

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I don't talk about free aimbot.

the bigger main aim move in the same time with the tank. it is welding with the tank.

at least that's how I see it.


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View Postno_human, on 27 July 2020 - 10:15 PM, said:

 

what do you think?

What makes you think it's an aimbot?  Looks like tracking ahead and then waiting for the aim to catch up & settle.  Post the replay or impossible to tell.



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View Postno_human, on 27 July 2020 - 09:35 PM, said:

the bigger main aim move in the same time with the tank. it is welding with the tank.

at least that's how I see it.

 

Aiming, as they call it?

 

Regardless of dodgy mods being available if pre-aiming and leading a shot is something that makes you scratch your head...



Balc0ra #7 Posted 27 July 2020 - 11:14 PM

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View Postno_human, on 27 July 2020 - 10:35 PM, said:

I don't talk about free aimbot.

the bigger main aim move in the same time with the tank. it is welding with the tank.

at least that's how I see it.

 

Again with a choppy gif like that, you only get so much of the story. All I see here is someone leading on a target, stop to wait and fires. As any aimbot uses the small aim. Not the big one to lead on the target if it moves. Nor do they stop to wait as far as I know. 

 

As was pointed out above. It's called aiming, and that's all that gif shows. And since you did a gif. I suspect it's from a Twitch stream vs a replay you have. And if so, you would have noticed more then just one odd shot to make that claim right? Or was it just this one alone? 


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Did the shot hit? How fast is the IS-3 moving? Can you provide replay? Leading an IS-3 even at full speed ain't rocket science. 

 

I have a hard time believeing it is an aimbot, programming an aimbot to both provide lead, preaim and also taking the environment such as ridges into account is quite complex, which needs a ton of input and computing. In comparison, the typical aimbot seen on youtube channels is simple, as it appears to only needing tank distance, shell velocity and client auto-aim position as inputs, and derives the lead needed from these three with a quite simple formula. 

 

Never heard of an auto-shot mod exisiting in WoT. My standard opinion about people yelling "cheater" and "aimbotter" is that they are wrong, (e.g. I've been called both a ton of times and people on this forum can never provide a replay of said cheaters). Though imo people generally complain about the "wrong" cheats, the one that makes most impact on the game is object destruction on minimap, as it provides a ton of information to the player. 



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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 27 July 2020 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

Aiming, as they call it?

 

 

Aiming is the key word here, i would just love to see WoT for few weeks with no RNG in it when it comes to aiming.

every shot lands where you point it. like i like RNG as it add's a lot of drama to the game, but then again i would just love to see some epic montages where people just like snipe for defender cupolas on the move.

in all honesty i would love to play the game with no RNG for shot dispersion for few weeks, that would be like really cool. sniping for weakspots from the move would just be so satisfying.

Spoiler

 

oh man just thinking about it makes me want it even more now :rolleyes:

idk i think WoT would just be such a good playing field for god like aim players cuz you would just get so much hate mail after everygame. 

the cupola on something like the 277 would just be a death sentance for the tank as people could just have a point and click adventrue with it no matter how far the tank is or is it moving.

 

but it would then again make every tank god like in aiming so something like the Panther would be utterly useless.

while tanks like the FV4005 would just be a Death machine as you could snipe for Cupolas with HESH like there is no tomorrow.

 

for couple of weeks yes, it would be fun but for the rest of the games life time, naa mate, RNG is just good for the game.

 

oh... a little sidetrack there... :hiding:

 

no OP there are just players that are god like at aiming and if RNG is in their favour in that moment when they need to make that pixel shot they will make it connect.



no_human #10 Posted 28 July 2020 - 12:12 AM

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Homer_J #11 Posted 28 July 2020 - 12:23 AM

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Are you going to join the conversation or just post jerky gifs?

no_human #12 Posted 28 July 2020 - 12:26 AM

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I can post the link 

but naming and shaming?



Homer_J #13 Posted 28 July 2020 - 12:32 AM

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From the rubbish gifs you have posted nobody can tell anything and you are hardly making a great attempt at explaining what you think or the story behind where the rubbish gifs have come from.

 

I don't want name and shame, I want you to put some effort into telling us what we are supposed to be seeing because all I see is two badly recorded jerky image files which.



no_human #14 Posted 28 July 2020 - 12:40 AM

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first gif 
for 12 frames the tank and the bigger main aim are move in the same time

do you think is possible?

I don't thing so


Edited by no_human, 28 July 2020 - 12:42 AM.


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View Postno_human, on 28 July 2020 - 12:40 AM, said:

first gif 
for 12 frames the tank and the bigger main aim are move in the same time

do you think is possible?

 

 

Yes.

 

12 frames?

 

that's what?  a half a second? a tenth of a second?

 

What do you mean by "bigger aim" and "main aim"?

 

There is the aiming reticule, which is under the control of the player, and where the gun is pointing which moves with the turret/tank movement and the player (and indeed any aimbot) has no control over.



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View PostHomer_J, on 28 July 2020 - 12:48 AM, said:

 

Yes.

 

12 frames?

 

that's what?  a half a second? a tenth of a second?

 

yes. but a human can't do this

 

There is the aiming reticule, which is under the control of the player

 

wrong.  is under the control of the aimbot

 

 

I don't talk about stupid free aimbot

 


Edited by no_human, 28 July 2020 - 12:54 AM.


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View Postno_human, on 28 July 2020 - 12:40 AM, said:

first gif 
for 12 frames the tank and the bigger main aim are move in the same time

do you think is possible?

I don't thing so

 

You think wrong. 

 

But even if for a moment we agreed that your jerky animation showed that he was using an aimbot 100% the moment he pulled the trigger the shot is subject to accuracy RNG as decided by the server. The majority of the tank was behind the ridge or outside the reticle. He got lucky to hit it at all. 



no_human #18 Posted 28 July 2020 - 01:04 AM

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yes he was lucky

but he didn't pull the trigger

he cannot have the aimbot's reflexes


Edited by no_human, 28 July 2020 - 01:05 AM.


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View Postno_human, on 28 July 2020 - 01:04 AM, said:

yes he was lucky

but he didn't pull the trigger

he cannot have the aimbot's reflexes

 

What reflexes does he need? Your gif shows him follow the tank for a second, aim ahead, pause for a moment then hail mary a shot before he lost the target that was lucky enough to hit. That wasn't a remotely difficult shot to take, it was just pure luck that it actually hit. 



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View Postno_human, on 28 July 2020 - 12:53 AM, said:

 

I don't talk about stupid free aimbot

 

Doesn't matter, the server controls where your gun points, the best a not stupid paid for aimbot can do is pretend your gun is pointing in a different direction.

 

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yes. but a human can't do this

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View Postno_human, on 28 July 2020 - 01:04 AM, said:

yes he was lucky

but he didn't pull the trigger

he cannot have the aimbot's reflexes


I don't see any reflexes, I just see someone who just happened to shoot at the right time, for all we know his cat jumped on his arm and caused him to shoot.






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