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T20 American MT Tier VII Alpha

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Lanrefni #1 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:44 PM

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This tank has so many flaws, that I would gladly take KV-13, T-43, Comet or even A-44 on 57mm full gold any day.

Of all the things it has bad, the worst is the crappy shell velocity. This thing sucked so much, I almost turned insane. Inconsistent pile of [edited].

(and somehow I still managed ~1500 DPG in it with 70% of HR)


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tajj7 #2 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:48 PM

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Good alpha, decent gun handling, good view range, -10 gun depression, very mobile, good camo, very good ACPR round.  

 

Because it's a good that is why, really the only bad things are the DPM and paper armour. 



Fenrisian #3 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:51 PM

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I was surprised at the mobility.  Also gun accuracy.  Still I am doing OK in the t69 (for me anyway)and friends of mine hate that tank 



NekoPuffer_PPP #4 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:53 PM

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The reload time is what really kills it. Everything else I could handle, but that DPM...eugh.

Private_Miros #5 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:56 PM

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DPM and gun handling while stationary are power creeped.

 

Vision games, early scouting, camo, speed, gun depression and accuracy on the move are on point.

 

It is probably still my most favourite tank destroyer in game.


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catlikehana #6 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:57 PM

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T20 / T-34-1 / KV-13 - Comparison

 

doesn't look too good imo but then again i prefer the panther and chi-ri so different playstyles entirely.

t20 is out of meta for a long time, much like T-34-1 and a few others. (hope wg give them some love soon)

 

overall It really depends on each player, a lot seem to like it.


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Balc0ra #7 Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:58 PM

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Same reason why I like the Swedish Leo with the big gun over anyone of them. Style and preference differ from player to player. T20 seems to hit the mark for most. Most have said to hate the Leo, but the agility, gun depression and alpha combo was just perfect for my style. T20 less so, and I had little love for it too. But most I know still favour it due to the gun handling and alpha combo. 

 

T20 is still a tier 7 med I see often, along with the Comet vs the others. KV-13 is still a rare sight for most to make that comparison, due to the old odd spot it had in the tree. 



fwhaatpiraat #8 Posted 30 July 2020 - 11:36 PM

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Imo the T20 is a unicum's Swiss knife. It's easy to do badly and die, but if you know what you're doing it has great potential. Much better gun handling than T-34-1 or A-44, better view range and gun depression too. It has good mobility, view range and a small silhouette with the turret on the correct position. Good apcr too.

Imo one of the few tanks in the game that has low dpm and is actually really strong. Only the T20 and E75 come to (my) mind.

Immensive #9 Posted 30 July 2020 - 11:45 PM

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For me the tank is decent, 3 marked mine 2 months ago within 54 games.

 

Played mine with the following setup:

Spoiler

485m Viewrange on T7, okayish dpm of 1,9k with 10 degrees of gundepresion on a mobile platform that has 30% cammo rating while stationary.



Gruff_ #10 Posted 31 July 2020 - 02:03 AM

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Fantastic tank and a top 5 tank of a few friends, just like forum posters not all tanks appeal to all tastes.

Mikanoid #11 Posted 31 July 2020 - 02:55 AM

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I really enjoyed playing it

 

I suspect the problem isnt the tank, but that it just doesnt suit your play style nothing more

 

On my other account I got master and the first MOE before I had even unlocked the tank above it and on my other account its not doing much worse so far and Im a crapplayer

 

So its definitely NOT the tank, as I said it just might not suit your playstyle, you might be playing it  like it has armour when it doesnt 



saxsan4 #12 Posted 31 July 2020 - 03:07 AM

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I LOVED THE T20, my first USA tier 7,, I miss it sometimes, we played together with it long ago ;)

GencoPuraOliveOil #13 Posted 31 July 2020 - 05:29 AM

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It’s all about the vision game. But looking at OP’s stats, you ain’t doing bad with the T20.

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TheJungleBeast #14 Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:50 AM

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I love mine to bits, gun is accurate, hits hard for tier, great gun depression and speed.

I have 60% win rate in this while my overall is 53%.



splash_time #15 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:07 AM

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View PostLanrefni, on 31 July 2020 - 12:44 AM, said:

This tank has so many flaws, that I would gladly take KV-13, T-43, Comet or even A-44 on 57mm full gold any day.

Of all the things it has bad, the worst is the crappy shell velocity. This thing sucked so much, I almost turned insane. Inconsistent pile of [edited].

(and somehow I still managed ~1500 DPG in it with 70% of HR)

 

One of my favourites, i kept it in my garage, waiting for crew. It's really good as it has good penetration and alpha, it can compete with T9s as well. :)

This is an example of why i like it. 

http://wotreplays.eu...e/5423698#stats


Edited by splash_time, 31 July 2020 - 07:08 AM.


Bulldog_Drummond #16 Posted 31 July 2020 - 08:33 AM

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I don't think I have ever acquired this one, but from a quick look at the stats it looks to me like a typical sniper/exploiter and it might not work so well if you try and play it as a normal Medium.

ExistanceUK #17 Posted 31 July 2020 - 10:26 AM

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Don't forget this is one of the few tanks below tier 8 that can take a Vertical Stabiliser and that makes a big difference.

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Lanrefni #18 Posted 31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 31 July 2020 - 12:36 AM, said:

Imo the T20 is a unicum's Swiss knife. It's easy to do badly and die, but if you know what you're doing it has great potential. Much better gun handling than T-34-1 or A-44, better view range and gun depression too. It has good m

No sane person plays A-44 with the 107mm, you have Leo for that. Sane people like me play that tank with the 57mm on full APCR and score 1500 dpg as minimum.

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View PostExistanceUK, on 31 July 2020 - 11:26 AM, said:

Don't forget this is one of the few tanks below tier 8 that can take a Vertical Stabiliser and that makes a big difference.

Didn't do it much good, when I used it.



ExistanceUK #19 Posted 31 July 2020 - 12:31 PM

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Like a lot of American guns that fire AP as standard it can feel like you are chucking potatoes, the top 90mm is one of those guns and you find APCR is quite a bit more accurate because of the higher shell speed and flatter trajectory. The extra pen is a bonus of course but like many of these guns hitting the distant or moving target can be tricky without the APCR.



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 31 July 2020 - 08:33 AM, said:

I don't think I have ever acquired this one, but from a quick look at the stats it looks to me like a typical sniper/exploiter and it might not work so well if you try and play it as a normal Medium.


T20 is not a sniper. If you are looking for a sniper tank at tier 7 the Steyr WT or even the T25/2 is better.







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