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arthurwellsley #1 Posted 31 July 2020 - 05:55 PM

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So suddenly War Gaming seem determined to shoot themselves in the foot, and annoy loyal customers with a series of announcements in quick succession. What is this Rubicon 2.0? Are the RU forums up in arms?

 

What is happening to World of Tanks?

 

Equipment 2.0

pro = make the game more diverse

con = really annoy customers by only giving out 30 free de-mounts shafting customers who have more tanks in their garage.

solution do what they did in World of Warships and free demount all equipment from all ships (tanks here) back to the garage.

 

Bonds

pro = make it easier in tier X to get bonds

con = stop epic medals getting bonds, put an arbitrary limit of 100 bonds per tank per week on each tier X.

solution = keep bonds for epic medals in tiers IV-IX where players like the small  number of bond rewards ticking over for really great games, lift the ceiling to more like 400 bonds per tier X tank per week.

 

I am interested to see how much anger there is boiling over on the RU forums where the devs actually listen.

 

But why two stupid announcements fit to enrage customers at the same time? New management? Then the third point badly mismanaged.

 

Amnesty for Banned Players

 

I actually do not think that this will be overly problematic nor do I believe that the numbers will be very high, thus unlikely to much affect gameplay. But the way War Gaming presented it, and the narrative used on the news page seemed doomed to enrage their customers. Why didn't they make it clearly how the amnesty was more for minor infringement and the real baddies will not be given an amnesty. Smacks of poor management so a third announcement that could have been handled better. Also the paid staff took a particularly stupid position with regard to an amnesty for banned forum accounts, and it was only the actions of the unpaid moderators that ameliorated any publicity damage the paid staff seemed to be courting for their employers.

 

What the hell are you muppets doing to a game that I still enjoy?

(typed more in sorrow than in anger).


Edited by arthurwellsley, 31 July 2020 - 06:27 PM.


gunslingerXXX #2 Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:04 PM

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Bad news is best served together and just before the weekend.

It's basically admitting it's wrong/negative and also at the same time demonstrating they don't have the strength (or will/interest) to respond to the unavoidable critisism. 

 

Just another spit in the face basically, but delivered 21st century style. 

 


Edited by gunslingerXXX, 31 July 2020 - 06:04 PM.


wsatnutter #3 Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:18 PM

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I made two comments about permanently banned players coming back and got rapped for both

But to say the least about that and equipment I'm totally raging 

I shut my wallet  for three years some time back and re opened  it for xmas boxes for friends etc I spend about 150 quid each year but my wallet is permanently shut for this game I'm disgusted 



qpranger #4 Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:30 PM

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Wargaming can still make everything better by announcing they are bringing back WT auf E100.

Gruff_ #5 Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:33 PM

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:confused: I just don't get WG at all.

CmdRatScabies #6 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:27 PM

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Got myself banned from WG Twitch channel for asking Eekaboo why the devs were so bad compared to the devs we had in 2012. :) 

 

I think the game's in maintenance mode now and the quality of staff they employ reflect that. 



Zoggo_ #7 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:28 PM

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After seeing Equip 2.0 just imagine the mess these developers are gonna make out of Crew 2.0 ?

The changes to equipment are bad and will cost me a lot of credits epecially as a veteran with hundreds of tanks but the potential to put me out of pocket with crew changes is huge. 

 

Crew changes could break this game for good. I have put a lot of effort, credits and most importantly real money (gold) into crews over the years. 

Make as many bad decisions with the crew as they have with the equipment I will just walk away from this game. 

 

 


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24doom24 #8 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:35 PM

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View PostGruff_, on 31 July 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

:confused: I just don't get WG at all.

Evidently from the progetto 46 buff not even WG is aware of what WG is doing.


Edited by 24doom24, 31 July 2020 - 07:37 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #9 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:45 PM

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WG is a tax exempt offshore money machine which has had a very good run through fluke

As it is a close company in which the owner takes little interest, and I imagine has no interest or expectation of becoming Amazon, I am sure that the return so far has far exceeded any expectation

There are no professional managers or executives anyone has ever heard of so I would expect the internal organisation to be a complete shambles and the employees if not family connections to be paid peanuts



splash_time #10 Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:59 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2020 - 07:55 PM, said:

What is happening to World of Tanks?

 

Believe me, they don't know too, they just think like "yeah, it's going to fix the game". While it's going to ruin the game more and more. 



malachi6 #11 Posted 31 July 2020 - 08:12 PM

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Well created post until the totally unwarranted ad hominem at the end.  Shame.

Bulldog_Drummond #12 Posted 31 July 2020 - 08:23 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 31 July 2020 - 07:12 PM, said:

Well created post until the totally unwarranted ad hominem at the end.  Shame.

 

I thought that was the best bit



Rati_Festa #13 Posted 31 July 2020 - 08:43 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 31 July 2020 - 07:12 PM, said:

Well created post until the totally unwarranted ad hominem at the end.  Shame.

 

Why is that part unwarranted? He likes the game... and can see like many others they are trashing it.



Slyspy #14 Posted 31 July 2020 - 09:50 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2020 - 05:55 PM, said:

Amnesty for Banned Players

 

I actually do not think that this will be overly problematic nor do I believe that the numbers will be very high, thus unlikely to much affect gameplay. But the way War Gaming presented it, and the narrative used on the news page seemed doomed to enrage their customers. Why didn't they make it clearly how the amnesty was more for minor infringement and the real baddies will not be given an amnesty. 

 

Um, they did. All people had to do was read the article and not even all of it. 



malachi6 #15 Posted 31 July 2020 - 11:29 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 31 July 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

 

Why is that part unwarranted? He likes the game... and can see like many others they are trashing it.

 

When presenting a position you use your best evidence, address the issues and avoid fallacies.  Up until the ad hominem, this is exactly what Arthur did.  You can remove the comment and the argument does not change.  Anybody can introduce game changes that are considered unsatisfactory.  Attacking the character or nature of the person making those changes does nothing to address the changes.  

 

For example, I could dismiss your comment by suggesting you are an idiot.  Does you being an idiot alter the validity of your comment? For the record, I am not suggesting you are an idiot, just pointing out ad hominems do nothing to address issues.


Edited by malachi6, 31 July 2020 - 11:33 PM.


BR33K1_PAWAH #16 Posted 31 July 2020 - 11:51 PM

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Everything is fine imo. And we finally get some equipment variety after all this years, rejoice!

Inappropriate_noob #17 Posted 31 July 2020 - 11:53 PM

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Just had it right now, and it is always when you enter battles, so furious not even going to try to log back in, it is only this crapass'd retarded game that this happens

LethalWalou #18 Posted 01 August 2020 - 04:52 AM

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Regarding the Amnesty announcement, once again WG can't fix the stupidity of this player base. They can write an article in the best way possible, keep reminding people of what is actually going on but absolutely nothing will stop the player base from misunderstanding things and then raging based on their own misunderstanding. All respect is lost for people, like you OP, who can't see this happening with the player base. :facepalm:

arthurwellsley #19 Posted 01 August 2020 - 12:30 PM

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View PostLethalWalou, on 01 August 2020 - 03:52 AM, said:

Regarding the Amnesty announcement, once again WG can't fix the stupidity of this player base. They can write an article in the best way possible (I do not think that this article was written in the best way possible, this is of course my subjective personal view), keep reminding people of what is actually going on but absolutely nothing (I disagree, I would suggest better writing would have stopped the furore) will stop the player base from misunderstanding things and then raging based on their own misunderstanding. All respect is lost for people, (this comma is unnecessary) like you OP (I neither require your respect nor am I courting it), who can't see this happening with the player base (I see it happening across life. Badly written pieces of communication are misunderstood by many people, not merely players in an online game. My point remains valid. Companies such as War Gaming with their available resources should be better at communicating clearly simple messages. Many other companies manage it):facepalm:

 


Edited by arthurwellsley, 01 August 2020 - 12:32 PM.


LethalWalou #20 Posted 01 August 2020 - 12:39 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 01 August 2020 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

 

People only bothered to read couple of words and made assumptions based on that, and then just kept repeating the same misinformation in the thread. Absolutely nothing will fix that stupidity of the player base, no matter how you try to defend the people who misinterpret things. You might not care about my respect, but you have lost all of it. Nonsense whining and defending of people who are incapable of reading a short article with clearly explained categories of who will and who won't be pardoned. :facepalm: And you go as low as trying to correct someones grammar, while you yourself have a tendency to make a lot of mistakes yourself :child:


Edited by LethalWalou, 01 August 2020 - 12:40 PM.





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