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OniichanSenpai #1 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:04 AM

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There are so many threads about how much WG wants to screw us by making us repurchase / reequip equipment, it's just amusing how people are not able to read:

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/equipment-2-0-conversion/

 

To address a few of the common misinformed rants:

 

"I will lose credits because I have to repurchase equipment that does not fit on my vehicle any longer!"

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"I have to pay gold now to reequip Camo Net, Binos and the Box!"

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"B-but I have a gazillion of tanks and I swap one pair of camo net and binos around them using a mod!"

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Edited by OniichanSenpai, 01 August 2020 - 10:39 AM.


Monsieur_T #2 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:17 AM

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

"I have to pay gold now to reequip Camo Net, Binos and the Box!"

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How is this cheaper for me in anyway?



FizzleMcSnizzle #3 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:19 AM

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

There are so many threads about how much WG wants to screw us by making us repurchase / reequip equipment, it's just amusing how people are not able to read:

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/equipment-2-0-conversion/

 

To address a few of the common misinformed rants:

 

"I will lose credits because I have to repurchase equipment that does not fit on my vehicle any longer!"

Spoiler

 

"I have to pay gold now to reequip Camo Net, Binos and the Box!"

Spoiler

I have one pair of binoculars, shared between ten tanks. Currently doesn't cost me a penny to move them between tanks. Are you saying this will still be the case after 2.0?



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View PostMonsieur_T, on 01 August 2020 - 10:17 AM, said:

How is this cheaper for me in anyway?

 

I guess we are those guys that are not able to read, because I sure as hell can't understand it either. 



saxsan4 #5 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:20 AM

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I am so confused, I think ill just wait for the live server and go from there

 

my little brain cant cope



OniichanSenpai #6 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:21 AM

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View PostMonsieur_T, on 01 August 2020 - 10:17 AM, said:

How is this cheaper for me in anyway?

 

I never said that this is cheaper, it will not cost you anything additionally. All your Binos will be converted to Class 1 Binos which you can either use directly or sell for 300.000 which is enough to get one Class 2 and two Class 3 binos. Fun fact, if you bought your Bino for 250.000 like I did you will actually make a profit upon selling them (same goes for Coated Optics btw).



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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:21 AM, said:

 

I never said that this is cheaper, it will not cost you anything additionally. All your Binos will be converted to Class 1 Binos which you can either use directly or sell for 300.000 which is enough to get one Class 2 and two Class 3 binos. Fun fact, if you bought your Bino for 250.000 like I did you will actually make a profit upon selling them (same goes for Coated Optics btw).

OK... i don't currently have to pay to share my binos or camo net between tanks. After 2.0, each time I want to put them on a different tank, which I do, a lot - WG will charge me. Do you understand why you are wrong yet?


Edited by FizzleMcSnizzle, 01 August 2020 - 10:23 AM.


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You Actuly claimed it would be MUCH cheaper 

 

 

 


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The irony of someone making a rant thread about ranters, accusing the latter of not being able to read while being the one who cannot read. The fact that virtually everyone has not fully grasped this system shows that Wargaming has completely failed in public communications. Stop defending a multi-billion corporation so desperately when they've clearly failed in countless ways, from the "spit in the face" approach of not demounting ALL equipment (instead forcing people to pay or play for demount kits, which is ludicrious) to rushing the changes with so little open testing to embarassing themselves with inconsistent, improper communications that does not meet any professional standards given how much it has confused the company's customer base.

OniichanSenpai #10 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:36 AM

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View PostRicox, on 01 August 2020 - 10:24 AM, said:

The irony of someone making a rant thread about ranters, accusing the latter of not being able to read while being the one who cannot read. The fact that virtually everyone has not fully grasped this system shows that Wargaming has completely failed in public communications. Stop defending a multi-billion corporation so desperately when they've clearly failed in countless ways, from the "spit in the face" approach of not demounting ALL equipment (instead forcing people to pay or play for demount kits, which is ludicrious) to rushing the changes with so little open testing to embarassing themselves with inconsistent, improper communications that does not meet any professional standards given how much it has confused the company's customer base.

 

Care to explain to me what i did not read correctly, please. If any information I posted as wrong I will immediately correct it.



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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:36 AM, said:

 

Care to explain to me what i did not read correctly, please. If any information I posted as wrong I will immediately correct it.

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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 09:36 AM, said:

 

Care to explain to me what i did not read correctly, please. If any information I posted as wrong I will immediately correct it.

 

Do you think selling a tank to get half the price of the binoculars to then buy another set for a different tank is better than the previous system ?



FizzleMcSnizzle #13 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:42 AM

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I think he's trolling. He must be, right?

OniichanSenpai #14 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:46 AM

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View PostSovietBias, on 01 August 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

 

Do you think selling a tank to get half the price of the binoculars to then buy another set for a different tank is better than the previous system ?

 

I am not saying that it is better. It is maybe just more consistent. I just say no one is forced to spend gold here, that is my statement.



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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:46 AM, said:

 

I am not saying that it is better. It is maybe just more consistent. I just say no one is forced to spend gold here, that is my statement.

your statement is wrong.

I have ONE set of binos. I use them on a lot of tanks. Right now, I can move them between tanks for free. With 2.0, I will be charged each time I take them off one tank and put them on another. The alternative is to buy binos for EVERY tank that uses them. Now do you get it?


Edited by FizzleMcSnizzle, 01 August 2020 - 10:52 AM.


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Right now you can take your binocs, camo net and toolboxes off any tank for FREE and put it on any other tank FREE and swap it as many times as you like, regardless of class/type/tier. So theoretically you’d only need one if each. Practically, most players would have 3-4 of each maximum to allow for tanks being in battle.

 

i just so happened to have just completed a little summary of how much it would cost me to have the same setup on my tanks as I have now when we no longer can swap them unlimited:  

  

View PostSael_, on 31 July 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

I can assure you that we are following up on what players want.

 

No longer being able to swap camo nets, toolkits and binocs for free between tanks is what players WANT?

 

what did you ask them:  

- Do you want all new equipment that will make your tanks better and allow more diverse play styles?

  Or did you ask:

- Do you want all new equipment that will make your tanks better and allow more diverse play styles But it could cost you many millions of credits and you won’t be able to swap camo, binocs and toolboxes for free ever again?  

I bet you only asked the first bit and hoped they wouldn’t notice the 2nd bit?

 

Ive just spent a good hour going through all my tanks and writing down carefully which use camo nets, binocs and toolboxes right now.  Bearing in mind tier 2 get only one slot and tier 3 get only 2 slots, I also considered which equipment I would use in those cases and what I already have.

  

With equipment 2.0 going live as it is now, to keep playing my tanks as I play them now, I will need:  

 

- 9 x class 1 binocs = 9 x 50.000 = 450.000

- 18 x class 2 binocs = 18 x 200.000 =  3.600.000

- 8 x class 3 Binocs = 8 x 600.000 = 4.800.000

 

- 12 x class 3 camo net = 12 x 50.000 = 600.000

- 17 x class 2 camo net = 17 x 100.000 = 1.700.000

 

- 16 x class 2 modified configuration = 16 x 200.000 = 3.200.000

- 1 x class 1 modified configuration = 1 x 600.000

 

Total cost for maintaining my current setups: 14.950.000. 

Now ASSURE me that is what players WANT...

 

 



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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 01 August 2020 - 10:47 AM, said:

your statement is wrong.

 

Unless you disprove my statement, your argument is just an opinion.

 

If you can prove to me that a player is forced to use gold in order to keep his tanks in the same way they were before 1.10, please do so. :)



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Only the binocs situation will cost me a few million. Add to that 20-ish higher tiers tanks that need a higher level equipment (that is 600k), and I will keep about 10 mil credits ready in the hope there is an equipment sale during the first weeks of the patch.

 

Added to that, you might want to change setups, which does cost you 10 gold for each removed equipment. Well, either that or just another credit sink.

 

View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

Unless you disprove my statement, your argument is just an opinion.

 

If you can prove to me that a player is forced to use gold in order to keep his tanks in the same way they were before 1.10, please do so. :)

 

At this point I am going to presume you are either trolling or fuming about how you thought you wrote something smart and now people all react as if you didn't, but you just know you did and the people are all so cruel and tears.


Edited by Private_Miros, 01 August 2020 - 10:52 AM.


OniichanSenpai #19 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:51 AM

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View PostSoupFork, on 01 August 2020 - 10:50 AM, said:

Right now you can take your binocs, camo net and toolboxes off any tank for FREE and put it on any other tank FREE and swap it as many times as you like, regardless of class/type/tier. So theoretically you’d only need one if each. Practically, most players would have 3-4 of each maximum to allow for tanks being in battle.

 

 

Still it does not cost you any gold.



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View PostOniichanSenpai, on 01 August 2020 - 10:51 AM, said:

 

Still it does not cost you any gold.

10 gold each time. Is that sufficient proof?


Edited by FizzleMcSnizzle, 01 August 2020 - 10:55 AM.






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