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saxsan4 #1 Posted 01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM

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Hello,

 

i am so confused please help me

 

Most of my new equipment set ups i have done as most setups i am only chnaging 1 equipment but i am so confused for my scouts 

 

For ebr 75 its my skirmish scout so i have bounty optics stablizer and vents on atm

 

I want to keep Bounty optics, but may remove the other two as i need a proper scouting set upto best help my skirmish team and not let my clan friends down 

 

Now i have 3 kits and i am not sure which you would say is best 

 

Commanders vision system (-% to enemy concelament while mvoing and stionariy)

Improved radio set (increase time enemy are spotted)

Low noice system (reduces camo of moving/stationary viechal)

 

of those 3 which ones do you think i should have with my bounty optics)

 

Same issue please for elc even 90

 

this is my traditional scout tank

 

i currently have Camo net/vents/binocs

i am thinking to remove vents for again but keep binos and camo net which one of the new scouting equipments are best to add

 

 

 

i am messaging from work computer and they disable spell check so i appoligse for any dodgy spellings 

 

 

my EBR 75 is active scout only 


Edited by saxsan4, 01 August 2020 - 05:06 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:01 PM

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For Even90 you might consider Optics/Binos/Vents if you want to make it a min/max vision scout. You don't need camo net, as you're so small you can already hide behind a leaf.



Infryndiira #3 Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:11 PM

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For the EBR 75, drop the LNES. Your main defence is your mobility, not your stealth; the latter is already pretty good, so you might as well maximise your spotting while relying on your zoom zoom.

 

For the ELC EVEN, try Binoculars, CVS and LNES. It maximises your spotting and stealth, and you get pretty ridiculous passive spotting while keeping incredible concealment even on the move. I'd also mount Food, to ensure that vision is as high as possible even without Binoculars, and of course to further buff concealment. On my EVEN on CT that gives me about 418m VR on the move with well over 500 stationary, and around 53% concealment on move & stationary.

 

For other LTs I'd recommend a less dedicated scouting approach with, say, a rammer here and there, as they come with actual guns and not that demilitarised baguette launcher :trollface:



saxsan4 #4 Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:14 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 01 August 2020 - 06:01 PM, said:

For Even90 you might consider Optics/Binos/Vents if you want to make it a min/max vision scout. You don't need camo net, as you're so small you can already hide behind a leaf.

 

View PostInfryndiira, on 01 August 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

For the EBR 75, drop the LNES. Your main defence is your mobility, not your stealth; the latter is already pretty good, so you might as well maximise your spotting while relying on your zoom zoom.

 

For the ELC EVEN, try Binoculars, CVS and LNES. It maximises your spotting and stealth, and you get pretty ridiculous passive spotting while keeping incredible concealment even on the move. I'd also mount Food, to ensure that vision is as high as possible even without Binoculars, and of course to further buff concealment. On my EVEN on CT that gives me about 418m VR on the move with well over 500 stationary, and around 53% concealment on move & stationary.

 

For other LTs I'd recommend a less dedicated scouting approach with, say, a rammer here and there, as they come with actual guns and not that demilitarised baguette launcher :trollface:


Thank you, for elc even 90 I will drop the camo net then and go for the CVS, LNES and Binocs

 

 



Galaxy_class #5 Posted 01 August 2020 - 08:29 PM

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On the test servers I used CVS, Binocs and LENS for the ELC Even and it worked very well. For EBRs, if you don't want to use a gun rammer then CVS, Optics and Vents were the best for scouting only. Obviously, in both cases CVS was in the scouting slot. LENS is kind of wasted on an EBR as you tend to get close enough to the enemy that it doesn't matter.

 

For a laugh I tried Improved Configuration and Improved Hardening on an EBR to give the fastest wheel repair speed and got it down to 6 seconds with a full repair crew, (no food but did have the repair directive for an extra 10% repair speed). Not sure if it's really worth it as it uses 2 equipment slots but might be interesting. EBRs might get a bit expensive to run if people are constantly using 2 repair kits to fix the wheels as well as food.



arthurwellsley #6 Posted 01 August 2020 - 08:41 PM

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Given that you are looking for a Skirmish set up for the EBR I would suggest that it might be different from the setup that would be used in pub games. In Skirmish with voice communications the team should be more ready to spot what the EBR lights up. However it is also the case that the enemy will focus you harder and might try and put two EBR's on you to kill you. On that basis Improved Hardening seems something that might be worth trying (but not for pub matches). Again on the Skirmish basis Modified Configuration might also be worth considering. Other than that view range is the only EBR weakness in Skirmish, so given the crazy speed and dodging around maybe Commander's Vision System in place of coated optics, again this would be a very specific choice for Skirmish battles.

 

But really this is all theory crafting and a little of playing on Common Test. Once these hits live we will all have to try and see what works.



Search_Warrant #7 Posted 01 August 2020 - 08:44 PM

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With changes i considered Vents/B.Optics/ComV  and just forget using my worthless turdlauncher of a gun. only thing its good for is scouting and it cant use a rammer.

 

Vents in the booster slot for the increased camo/viewrange with BIA + food it would boost even further thew multipliers.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 01 August 2020 - 08:47 PM.


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View PostInfryndiira, on 01 August 2020 - 07:11 PM, said:

For the EBR 75, drop the LNES. Your main defence is your mobility, not your stealth; the latter is already pretty good, so you might as well maximise your spotting while relying on your zoom zoom.

 

For the ELC EVEN, try Binoculars, CVS and LNES. It maximises your spotting and stealth, and you get pretty ridiculous passive spotting while keeping incredible concealment even on the move. I'd also mount Food, to ensure that vision is as high as possible even without Binoculars, and of course to further buff concealment. On my EVEN on CT that gives me about 418m VR on the move with well over 500 stationary, and around 53% concealment on move & stationary.

 

For other LTs I'd recommend a less dedicated scouting approach with, say, a rammer here and there, as they come with actual guns and not that demilitarised baguette launcher :trollface:

 

That's exactly my setup also on ELC, and the demilitarized baguette launcher sometimes does 2k damage also besidesthe spotting damage :D . EBRs have a little less view range,  so optics and on the move camo as much as possible to sneak around


Edited by SZeta, 04 October 2020 - 02:29 PM.


MrKrotchy #9 Posted 04 October 2020 - 07:26 PM

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On EBR75 you really want to just boost that abysmal VR as much as possible but even then, unless you go full bond equipment you won't be outspotting much.

So I'd say Optics/Vents and then if you don't plan on using your gun much either LNES to be able to get those few meters closer or hardening so you can survive an extra shot from 240/320/490 alpha guns.

 

 

EVEN 90 I run with Optics/LNES/Vents +food, makes it the best active spotter in the game, 56% camo and 470m VR. If an enemy is further than 250m you can be sure they can't spot you. I literally had moments like when a T28 was camping the high road on Pearl river rice field, I drove up against the redline around him, only 230m away from him, and went unspotted until I opened fire into his arse.

 

So none of that bino/net nonsense, if you want to kemp bush take a fast medium, atleast that way you got a gun for later.

 

PS

CVS is extremely situational, basically trash, just don't use it.


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Balc0ra #10 Posted 04 October 2020 - 09:42 PM

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Depends on your priorities. And what you want to get out of it, as in what stats you want to go up. As the one above went for an active scout build. As he doesn't like the passive style. That works for him. But what works for you? 

 

For me I went hybrid on my ELC 90. I play mine as much active as I do passive. But camo and spotting are still priorities. Not the gun. So atm, I have CVS on slot 1, then optics on 2, and low noise exhaust on slot 3. Givin it with my current crew and their crew skills, 446m view range, 49.8% camo on the move in the open, and gives less camo to some targets. Making it a rather good scout in any situation, vs just for one style. As that's what I want in my lights. Flexibility.  I went CVS as during the closed training room tests we did. It was worth the trade-off for vents. As tbh, vents on some tanks have become less vital now unless you really need it to get the view range more up. 

 

For my EBR I went optics on slot 1, and vents on slot 3. But atm playing around with slot 2. As I'm going more for a bully and LT counter role, so testing survivability and wheel repair speed atm with survivability on that slot. Improve hardening is not too bad atm. As it 100% fixes the wheels after each self-repair to name one. But not that hyped on keeping it even with all the good bonuses. 



anonym_zLzFlgi7vCHc #11 Posted 04 October 2020 - 09:54 PM

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Commanders vision system is  IMHO a must for any tank that can mount it.Placed in first slot.

It gives effectivelly   about  32 % !  better spotting of every tank that moves behind bush (and moving behind bush is N.1 tactics when positioning at the start and during relocating and advancing,especially in a duels of overspotting between two scouts.

If a scout dont have it,its decisively inferior against scout which has it,and majority has it.

Most important peace of equipment,have it on every  light spoter I have,especially French.

I experimented with replacing Commanders visual system with something else  but tank without it looks like crippled considdering spotting capabilities.

It is so powerfull peace of equipment that I have fear it could  be nerfed. For now,(and I hope it will stay as such) this  peace of equipment has revived scouting , which was almost dead for long time .



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Nothing improves EBR more than cup of latte and croisants before battle.




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