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insanity4u #1 Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:33 PM

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Ranked battles are proving that medium tanks are too good, therefor picked way too much.

Are we going to see a nerf, so 1/2 of the teams are not consisted of medium tanks?
Perhaps a view range and camo nerf would do?



Spammable_Lecter #2 Posted 01 August 2020 - 11:17 PM

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Meds have been nerfed already , you're problem is you were playing  RANKED or maybe the fact you sat in front of  a good player and got farmed . 

Don't ever lose the NERF everything that kills me mentality, some cheese would taste better with that whine.


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Private_Miros #3 Posted 01 August 2020 - 11:34 PM

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People prefer something with speed in a mode where late game running away or getting to late game farming damage is the only goal.

 

What a surprise.



frange #4 Posted 02 August 2020 - 12:11 AM

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Are you surprised - really? When the (russian) MTs have the guns of TDs, the armor of superheavy HTs, and the speed of (tracked) LTs - why play anything else?

Bulldog_Drummond #5 Posted 02 August 2020 - 12:12 AM

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Robbie_T #6 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:19 AM

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rimmer_the #7 Posted 02 August 2020 - 03:58 AM

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View Postinsanity4u, on 01 August 2020 - 10:33 PM, said:

Ranked battles are proving that medium tanks are too good, therefor picked way too much.

Are we going to see a nerf, so 1/2 of the teams are not consisted of medium tanks?
Perhaps a view range and camo nerf would do?

As someone else pointed out, its preferable to having td's picked too much. 



JocMeister #8 Posted 02 August 2020 - 05:27 AM

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View Postinsanity4u, on 01 August 2020 - 10:33 PM, said:

Ranked battles are proving that medium tanks are too good, therefor picked way too much.

Are we going to see a nerf, so 1/2 of the teams are not consisted of medium tanks?
Perhaps a view range and camo nerf would do?

 

4 years ago called and wanted you back.... 



StronkiTonki #9 Posted 02 August 2020 - 06:03 AM

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Result of having to fight your own team for damage 50% of the time when a 3 minute stomp is happening.

Obviously everyone will choose fast vehicles in order to even have a realistic chance of getting in some damage before the 3 minute battle ends.

I've had plenty of battles where I happened to choose the wrong flank in my Leo 1, then held the W key to try and catch up, and ended up literally doing no damage, because everything died before I even got a chance of aiming at it.



Ba_nshee #10 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:12 PM

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Or arties - 2 in ranked and 3 in T12 random battles - are just annoying enough and everyone got bored of  that stupidly limited "gameplay". Also, it is a self-generating problem, because less heavy in the battles makes the heavy pick even less desirable. If there are no heavies, then there is nothing to brawl with in a heavy. No HP in the battles. No armor to hold positions. Even more arty of course. And that's where we were in the last months: 3-4 T10 lights (mainly EBR), 3 arties, 1-2 heavy, absolute horrendous T12 (full T10) three minutes battles.

 

Hopefully, the heavy buffs will makes them more popular in the next weeks.

In the same time they did this idiotic bond change, where you can be sure that thousands of players will grind bonds in T10 arties. Every week, in all of their T10 arty.

 

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Generally, carrying and influencing random battles was "always" (I only started 4 years ago) easier in heavy tanks. Even now, the best T10 tanks are clearly heavies. Progetto and 430u were over-performing a little bit, but nowhere near to the Chieften/279 level. Nowadays, the 907 is "nothing special" in terms of winning random battles.

Asking for a overall medium nerf doesn't make any sense to me. Their power level is definitely not the problem or the cause of the problem.


Edited by Ba_nshee, 02 August 2020 - 02:18 PM.


GalmTwo #11 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:19 PM

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I didn't know you were stuck in 2012. What's next? "Autoloaders are too OP, remove ples?"

guinty1 #12 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:33 PM

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The game is just mirroring what happened in real life. After and during world war two ,most nations that had used tanks in various roles, realized that mounting a good gun in a medium tank(main battle tank) made more sense than a heavy tank / medium tank combination. The t54 /55 /62/ 64 line was the prime example of that. Mobility and small size ,with a punch over Armour protection . It wasn't  until ATGM in various formats brought heavy tanks ( challenger 2 , leopard 2 , abrams ect) back , and only because they had too mount heavy composite armour . Power creep in the game is at the mid stage now , in the 95% of games that are played a medium with a punchy gun that is fast is MBT and is the tanks that most of us prefer now.

Bulldog_Drummond #13 Posted 02 August 2020 - 04:20 PM

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View Postguinty1, on 02 August 2020 - 01:33 PM, said:

The game is just mirroring what happened in real life. After and during world war two ,most nations that had used tanks in various roles, realized that mounting a good gun in a medium tank(main battle tank) made more sense than a heavy tank / medium tank combination. The t54 /55 /62/ 64 line was the prime example of that. Mobility and small size ,with a punch over Armour protection . It wasn't  until ATGM in various formats brought heavy tanks ( challenger 2 , leopard 2 , abrams ect) back , and only because they had too mount heavy composite armour . Power creep in the game is at the mid stage now , in the 95% of games that are played a medium with a punchy gun that is fast is MBT and is the tanks that most of us prefer now.

 

Indeed.  Shermans were still going strong 30 or more years after the end of WW2, and Tigers were museum pieces.



guinty1 #14 Posted 04 August 2020 - 01:41 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 02 August 2020 - 03:20 PM, said:

 

Indeed.  Shermans were still going strong 30 or more years after the end of WW2, and Tigers were museum pieces.

 

Yeh crazy that the IDF were using upgunned shermans against Syrian upgraded pz mk IV in the 1967 six day war .  



BattleMetalChris #15 Posted 04 August 2020 - 01:51 PM

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I just find heavies boring as hell. Drive to chokepoint, shoot at cupolas. Repeat. Yawn.

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Bulldog_Drummond #16 Posted 04 August 2020 - 02:45 PM

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View PostBattleMetalChris, on 04 August 2020 - 12:51 PM, said:

I just find heavies boring as hell. Drive to chokepoint, shoot at cupolas. Repeat. Yawn.

 

Tier 4 and 5 Heavies can be a lot of fun.  I think my favourite is the US T1 Heavy, and the DW2 is also pretty awesome



Flicka #17 Posted 04 August 2020 - 02:55 PM

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As the best class in game, and as a way that tanks over time evolved so most of them are those  kind of vehicles, see MBT, its just right.

Nerf medium tanks...these forums are at the least surprising. Hell, what will we have next nerf Sp1C, its is OP?






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