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Ezzem #1 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:43 PM

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I just ran into a player named [removed], who has played 582 battles of which 1 battle with an Obj. 430U. He played no battles with any tier IX and only 45 battles with tier VIII. So this demonstrates what's possible in WOT nowadays …

 

A few years ago you had to play at least a year before you could play tier X games. Players who played tier X games were certain of having teammates that played at least a certain time, that played at least a certain number of battles in tier IX tanks before trying tier X …
 

If this is the effect of blueprints, then blueprints certainly will make active players quit this game.


Edited by Ezzem, 02 August 2020 - 02:50 PM.


Private_Miros #2 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:47 PM

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There are tons of ways to grind credits and free xp (and xp to be converted) outside of random battles as well.

 

That particular account is a reroll though, with a bunch of premiums, meaning he did play randoms, and just free xp converted his way to what he probably believes is his best shot at high tier stats padding.

 

Actual new players rushing to top tier has been a problem since the start, though in my view less than those with many tens of thousands of battles and still under average. Those new players can fail at higher tier faster now though, yes. That is true.


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GalmTwo #3 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:48 PM

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528? Is it really that low of a battle count to reach tier 10? I get that WG wants people to push their way to tier 10 quickly, but this was unheard of for me.

splash_time #4 Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:49 PM

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First of all, I'll advise you to remove the player's name. And secondly, welcome to WoT 2020. :)

LethalWalou #5 Posted 02 August 2020 - 03:27 PM

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View PostGalmTwo, on 02 August 2020 - 01:48 PM, said:

528? Is it really that low of a battle count to reach tier 10? I get that WG wants people to push their way to tier 10 quickly, but this was unheard of for me.

 

This has been rather common thing over the years. People have premiums and grind the exp in tier 8 skirmishes. You can reach a tier 10 even with 0 random battles showing on your main service record.



OofBerry #6 Posted 02 August 2020 - 04:03 PM

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View PostLethalWalou, on 02 August 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

 

This has been rather common thing over the years. People have premiums and grind the exp in tier 8 skirmishes. You can reach a tier 10 even with 0 random battles showing on your main service record.

 

Yeah exactly this. I assume the "528 battles" were only random, and he had a lot more in tier 8 skirmishes where he grinded xp in premiums to convert. 



splash_time #7 Posted 02 August 2020 - 04:08 PM

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Yup, nothing unusual. :rolleyes:

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LethalWalou #8 Posted 02 August 2020 - 04:12 PM

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View PostOofBerry, on 02 August 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

Yeah exactly this. I assume the "528 battles" were only random, and he had a lot more in tier 8 skirmishes where he grinded xp in premiums to convert. 

 

Also those ''528 battles'' done in randoms could just as well be in tier 10s they had grinded exp for in skirmishes. Can't of course check since I didn't catch the name.



roboslash #9 Posted 02 August 2020 - 04:29 PM

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Got the TVP T50/51 all the way from tier 1, using blueprints, 50k free xp, and 20 x5 XP missions in under 70 battles.

 

Just shows how easy it is to get a T10 tank these days.



Japualtah #10 Posted 02 August 2020 - 05:06 PM

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I don't see that as an issue, at all.

 

On the other hand, I don't quite understand how you can have pretty much full teams under 48.5% WR (which is the average included draws IIRC), I was under the impression we should have an equal number of players under and above average on a Gaussian curve.

Weird.

 



Private_Miros #11 Posted 02 August 2020 - 05:11 PM

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View PostJapualtah, on 02 August 2020 - 04:06 PM, said:

I don't see that as an issue, at all.

 

On the other hand, I don't quite understand how you can have pretty much full teams under 48.5% WR (which is the average included draws IIRC), I was under the impression we should have an equal number of players under and above average on a Gaussian curve.

Weird.

 

 

Actually not. The player distribution follows a Gauss curve but it's steeper on the bad side, so the majority is under average; and longer drawn out on the good side.

 

Because it's really hard to unintentionally consistently make your team lose, at least harder than playing consistently really, really well; and there aren't nearly as much players that tryhard to play bad compared to trying to play good.

 

Basically, the 2% great ones compensate for 20-30% or so worse than average ones.



Ezzem #12 Posted 06 August 2020 - 03:52 AM

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View PostJapualtah, on 02 August 2020 - 05:06 PM, said:

I don't see that as an issue, at all.

 

On the other hand, I don't quite understand how you can have pretty much full teams under 48.5% WR (which is the average included draws IIRC), I was under the impression we should have an equal number of players under and above average on a Gaussian curve.

Weird.

 

 

 

We probably have an equal number of players under and above average on a Gaussian curve, but on that curve the active as well as the non active players are taken into account. The teams don't reflect that statistic, cause you only take active players in consideration. If another statistic should tell us what the winrate is of players that stopped, maybe there you have a winrate of >50%. And maybe then you see the issue ;)


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Balc0ra #13 Posted 06 August 2020 - 03:58 AM

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View PostEzzem, on 02 August 2020 - 02:43 PM, said:

I just ran into a player named [removed], who has played 582 battles of which 1 battle with an Obj. 430U. He played no battles with any tier IX and only 45 battles with tier VIII. So this demonstrates what's possible in WOT nowadays …

 

A few years ago you had to play at least a year before you could play tier X games. 

 

Not really. You just played premiums in skirmishes and farmed event XP. Be it today or 5 years ago. As that battle count is ONLY for randoms. No other mode that rewards XP to convert etc. 

 

So check his vehicle statistic for other modes, and for FL medals etc. If you farm FL, tier VIII in 45 battles is no easy. As I did all of my last tier 8's that way. I have zero battles in the Lynx as I got all of his XP in FL. Even less so on tier 9 later when you have a tier 8 premium with a few 100K free XP from weeks of FL etc. 

 



trispect #14 Posted 06 August 2020 - 06:47 AM

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Well I have 1500 battles on my second account which originates before blueprints existed, so nowadays it would be even faster. Also add things like Twitch Prime loot x5 missions and you can really fly through lines now. I have 3 tier 10s (M48, EBR 105, Obj 430U) and 40 or so battles away from fourth. It took me 177 battles to get EBR 105.

vedrangas696 #15 Posted 06 August 2020 - 06:56 AM

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Thank god you don t have to play a year to tier 10.. Its not your private game with old player with 50k batlles can only afford tier 10 .

Famepackexe #16 Posted 06 August 2020 - 07:22 AM

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Lots of new players make the mistake of grinding to tier 10 as fast as possible i made that mistake also when i started.I thought my tier 10 tank would be invincible got a rude awakening :teethhappy:

trispect #17 Posted 06 August 2020 - 07:29 AM

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View PostFamepackexe, on 06 August 2020 - 08:22 AM, said:

Lots of new players make the mistake of grinding to tier 10 as fast as possible i made that mistake also when i started.I thought my tier 10 tank would be invincible got a rude awakening :teethhappy:

And that's why we have +-2 matchmaking. So even the bad players can get those situations when they can stomp the poor tier 8 who doesn't stand a chance against them.



Famepackexe #18 Posted 06 August 2020 - 07:47 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 06 August 2020 - 07:29 AM, said:

And that's why we have +-2 matchmaking. So even the bad players can get those situations when they can stomp the poor tier 8 who doesn't stand a chance against them.

Problem comes when its full tier 10 mm and enemy team knows what they are doing



trispect #19 Posted 06 August 2020 - 08:05 AM

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View PostFamepackexe, on 06 August 2020 - 08:47 AM, said:

Problem comes when its full tier 10 mm and enemy team knows what they are doing

Yes, but those occasional stomping feelings they get keeps them playing.



fwhaatpiraat #20 Posted 06 August 2020 - 08:22 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 06 August 2020 - 08:05 AM, said:

Yes, but those occasional stomping feelings they get keeps them playing.

If people do 800 damage at tier 6 they think they do badly. If they do 2000 damage at tier X they think they do well, "big numbers woah". I remember playing with a friend that felt amazing that he hit an enemy for 1k, even though he received 1.5k in the process. So bad.







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