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Infryndiira #1 Posted 22 August 2020 - 07:31 PM

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As per title: Can any premium tank in the game, regardless of its tier, afford a 100% gold loadout?

  • The vast majority of ammunition (and thus main type) must be special/gold/ultra-expensive ammo to qualify.
  • Consumables may or may not be the premium/expensives versions, but please specify.
  • To "afford" it, two qualifiers apply: it must either consistently break even, and thus more or less pay for its own resupply costs, or consistently run a profit regardless of the expenditure in question.

 

I don't know any myself, but I look forward to the replies.



Tealo #2 Posted 22 August 2020 - 07:36 PM

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Maybe the Somua SM tier8 Premuim Tank (but with Prem account) if you pen 4 out of 5 shots roughly seems to make a profit with a full gold loadout at (shooting) the same tier or above, which 'Though' I haven't tried it, suggests that the Lorraine 40t also might be able to pull it off.

   Could do with a nerf even if it's just the gold ammo costs (increased.)


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trispect #3 Posted 22 August 2020 - 07:53 PM

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Lower the alpha --> more shots --> more ammo costs --> more likely to miss your shots

 

But most premiums can afford to shoot full prem and break even/profit if you pen your shots. :) I would think it is easier with higher alpha guns. 



Balc0ra #4 Posted 22 August 2020 - 07:59 PM

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Break even? I mean you can 100% remove anything on tier 4 and down. As even the T7CC costs over 600K to fill up. And even if you kill the entire enemy team, you won't break even with tier 2 income etc. Even on tier 5 and 6 you don't always pen every shot. And high ROF tanks like the RAM II miss more then they hit at med to long-range to cover the loss per shell. 

 

On tier 8 on high alpha guns like the Skorpion etc, I suspect it's not far fetched to fire full gold and still have a profit if you have 100% hit and pen rate. As even going full gold on the ELC, you break back some of it on assist. That's less likely on a Skorp. So I've done it a few times in the ELC to name one. Tho firing 2-3 gold clips in total and getting assist on top of it. Not going full ham with 8 gold clips etc. 



Pansenmann #5 Posted 22 August 2020 - 08:03 PM

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The B2 is imo one of them

Tealo #6 Posted 22 August 2020 - 08:27 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 August 2020 - 06:59 PM, said:

Break even? I mean you can 100% remove anything on tier 4 and down. As even the T7CC costs over 600K to fill up. And even if you kill the entire enemy team, you won't break even with tier 2 income etc.

 

 Really well us mere mortal's don't have the option of loading gold ammo on a T7 Combat Car as it's not available, it was released without Gold Ammo, same with the British Light Mk.VIC No Gold Ammo :)

  Which is not surprising considering the clip capacity of those 2 tanks.. Their other major advantage is in veiw range, Why those 2 are the (some) most interesting tanks to play at lower tier. (actual proper scouts at low tier)

You might have meant the Pz. II J.

 Which without gold ammo would be actually balanced and in the old days before gold ammo for credits would cost about  2 weeks to a months premuim account time per match to load it with gold ammo.:ohmy:

 


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kejmo #7 Posted 22 August 2020 - 08:31 PM

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Every tech tree tank has a full gold loadout these days. So if they can...every premium can.

Tomerell #8 Posted 22 August 2020 - 08:47 PM

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I'm quite "fed up" of the gold storm we have in this game atm, and which is getting even worse day by day.

Maybe the better results people get by shooting mainly gold makes them feel they are better players than they really are... 

 



Pansenmann #9 Posted 22 August 2020 - 09:15 PM

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View PostTomerell, on 22 August 2020 - 08:47 PM, said:

I'm quite "fed up" of the gold storm we have in this game atm, and which is getting even worse day by day.

Maybe the better results people get by shooting mainly gold makes them feel they are better players than they really are... 

 

 

why feel?


we dingers ARE the better players.

at least we have moral superiority.

 

 

back to topic:

the APCR rounds of the B2 cost only 800 credits per piece

but have 90mm pen and 825 m/s velocity (compared to 55mm pen 660 m/s velocity with standard ammo)

 

since latest patches it has a whopping 195 shell count

but if you don't count in the initial setup cost I am quite sure that tank can break even if you get enough dmg, frags and win.



WindSplitter1 #10 Posted 22 August 2020 - 09:26 PM

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View PostInfryndiira, on 22 August 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

As per title: Can any premium tank in the game, regardless of its tier, afford a 100% gold loadout?

  • The vast majority of ammunition (and thus main type) must be special/gold/ultra-expensive ammo to qualify.
  • Consumables may or may not be the premium/expensives versions, but please specify.
  • To "afford" it, two qualifiers apply: it must either consistently break even, and thus more or less pay for its own resupply costs, or consistently run a profit regardless of the expenditure in question.

 

I don't know any myself, but I look forward to the replies.

 

M22 Locust.

It can (and should) carry only gold ammo, break even and, if you're that good, make a profit.

Point being is, you won't have problems with the Locust by going full Dinger mode on the ammo. You'll have to make your shots count anyway since it doesn't have a lot of shells in it.

 

I regret selling mine. It's a fine vehicle.

No need to carry super duper ultra consummables, apart from AFE (it burns a little) and Safe Stowage (ammo gets hit a lot).



MeetriX #11 Posted 22 August 2020 - 09:54 PM

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ISU-152K comes to my mind. (With prem. acc.)

Idk. Maybe.

 



__Eric__ #12 Posted 22 August 2020 - 10:03 PM

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My Valentine II has a full gold loadout.

 

 

Hardly ever play it though.



jack_timber #13 Posted 23 August 2020 - 11:33 AM

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The only tank I run with full 'gold' is that T10 French arty. 

brumbarr #14 Posted 23 August 2020 - 02:29 PM

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Imo pretty much every T8 premm can run full gold or at least be very liberal with it and still make profit, even with food.

Source: not me



pihip #15 Posted 23 August 2020 - 03:26 PM

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Liberal use of gold on premiums won't get you in the red if you have prem account and you don't lose too badly (like, lose the match after firing 20 shots of which only 8 did damage).

Low tiers could be trouble though since the battle earnings are just too low.

RedSox04 #16 Posted 24 August 2020 - 01:05 PM

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This a tank game. Tanks have armour. Premium ammo negates the armour. IMO premium ammo should be limited to 10% of the ammo capacity. Then we might actually have a game worth playing. But, that won't happen as there are too many unicum wannabees and stats whores so WG will keep it as it is and rub their hands together at all the people making them richer and fatter.

Infryndiira #17 Posted 24 August 2020 - 01:10 PM

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View PostRedSox04, on 24 August 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

This a tank game. Tanks have armour. Premium ammo negates the armour. IMO premium ammo should be limited to 10% of the ammo capacity. Then we might actually have a game worth playing. But, that won't happen as there are too many unicum wannabees and stats whores so WG will keep it as it is and rub their hands together at all the people making them richer and fatter.


So, if a tank can carry 20 shells capable of doing 1750 damage each, they can carry 2; but if they can carry 100 capable of doing 55, they can carry 5 for 250ish?







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