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Community #1 Posted 05 September 2020 - 06:00 AM

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Use the latest Tech Tree spotlight to reach this Tier X German brute!

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_Old_Spice_ #2 Posted 05 September 2020 - 06:13 AM

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Who cares about this line?... after E100 line buff...tier7-8 now are far below average, tier 9 playable but wish to get that 530 alpha damage gun, like E75, tier 10 - somewhere in a row with French M4...
Again, why not E5, is4 of e100?:ohmy:

StronkiTonki #3 Posted 05 September 2020 - 06:18 AM

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Good, I still needed to re-buy the tier 8 and 9 on this line and a few other lines until I have the entirety of all tech trees in my garage. :)

GunnerSoerensen #4 Posted 05 September 2020 - 07:18 AM

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So which T8 premium do we get to get a few games to play in, from playing the T8-T10 this time?

undutchable80 #5 Posted 05 September 2020 - 07:22 AM

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I have the tier 9 unlocked which in plan on buying tonight. Is the tier X worth grinding? Or is this a line where people stop at tier 9? 

Heavymetalistot68 #6 Posted 05 September 2020 - 08:52 AM

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Pz 7 is the weakest tank of level10. Heavy and slow, very weakly armored. Even the medium tanks penetrate the turret, frontally - the mantlet of the gun and the commander's cupola. If you cover the lower front armor plate of the hull, they penetrate into the convex base of the turret, which is deliberately designed as a weak spot. The gun is completely useless against other heavy tanks, APCR and HE are like fireworks ... This is a tank specially designed for masochists, and I recommend it in complete with VK 75.01. I own this exceptional duo, and when I want to buy a new tank, I play a battle with one of the two tanks, and the desire quickly evaporates. This is the only positive feature of these tanks - to remind you that it is stupid to play with German tanks in a Russian game ...

 

 

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This M48 managed to pierce the mantlet three times in one battle, from a distance of 260m ... I couldn't hit it even once, my shells ricocheted from its turret.

 

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Here are more examples. I have hidden the tank hull behind this corpse, there are bushes between me and the enemy destroyer. He fired at the silhouette of my turret. He shot at me twice, pierced the gun's mantlet twice. See what fake holes have turned out, some sectors of a circle. This is what happens when WG do something fake. My gun is aimed at the TD. If a projectile comes from it, it must hit the front of the barrel / flash suppressor /. And if it comes parallel to the barrel and hits the mantlet, at this angle it must always be a ricochet, the mantlet is made of solid steel. Even for HEAT shells. But this tank is deliberately made to be weak, which is not fair to consumers. This was my first level 10 tank, and I invested a lot of resources to get to it. My disappointment was huge, and I realized that I had made a big mistake in investing money in the training of German crews. WG, you just don't have to lie! Say this tank is weak, do not lie to consumers that this is a powerful German tank. This is a cartoon invented in Belarus.

 

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InsainBald #7 Posted 05 September 2020 - 09:20 AM

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Never heard anything good about this tank, just big pile of metal. A lot of weak spots everywhere, no matter how you position your tank. If it would have been good, there would be more of them in random. 

Eroe_dell_Iride #8 Posted 05 September 2020 - 10:07 AM

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Just bought the Tier 8 which is one of my favourite tanks, I hope to unlock and full tier 9 in time during the event. 

Simona2k #9 Posted 05 September 2020 - 10:14 AM

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Not bad

VarzA #10 Posted 05 September 2020 - 11:21 AM

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Not only is the t10 a big pile of ****, not only is the grind hard (through the Tiger P), but due to recent changes ... this grind was made even harder.

 

Last patch WG buffed the E100 line, and that buff had unintended consequences :

- VK 45.02 A (t8) - it is now by far the weaker of the 2 tanks when compared to the Tiger II to the point of being a joke; they used to share the turret parameters ... 

- VK 45.02 B (t9) - this 'armored' version which is sidescrape focused, actually has 265/160/160 while E75 (the more mobile) has 280/160/160; should i also mention that track traverse is 20 degrees on VK and 31 on E75 ?

On top of that, the E75 was the nicer grind (even before) and it was a fine way to unlock the 12.8cm 44 L/55 gun (the german gun that is used on TD's and heavies with 490 alpha and 246/311 pen). In it's heavy tank version (the td version has to be researched separately), this gun is worth 64k xp and was the main gun of the E75, VK 45.02 B, Mauschen and it was also a gun on the E100/Maus.

When they buffed the gun on the E75, they also made it a unique gun (both top gun on E75 and the Tiger II top gun), so now the gun is shared between VK 45.02 B and Mauschen ... both of which are not the easiest grinds (rather slow and stock turret is nightmarish on VK).

All of this increases the probability that you will have to free xp through this gun, in order to avoid the pain.

- Pz 7 looks cool but it works because ppl don't know how to pen it ... they don't know about the weak mantlet and the shoulders, and against high pen gold rounds you simply can't angle the nose well enough.

 

So between the E100 line buffs that also implicitely nerfed the T8+T9 of this line and the T10 being just plain bad ... i highly don't recommend you go up this line.



SlyMeerkat #11 Posted 05 September 2020 - 12:24 PM

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I am at tier 8 with this line and so its there i am starting :)

Eroe_dell_Iride #12 Posted 05 September 2020 - 12:47 PM

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If you already developed/reasarched the Maus line, grinding the Pz. VII line will be easier because many modules are in common with Maus.

If you have saved some free exp for tracks and turrets, all top guns for VK ausf. A and Ausf. B are already available. 

 



s3thus #13 Posted 05 September 2020 - 01:36 PM

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Good old Panzerscheisswagen.

undutchable80 #14 Posted 05 September 2020 - 02:45 PM

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Equipment recommendations for the VK45.02B?

7thNighthawk #15 Posted 05 September 2020 - 05:30 PM

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Oof, VK 45.02 Ausf. A is such a spectacular turd. It has less pen than alot of mediums, even with prem, alpha like some mediums, useless armour, zero camo and rather mediocre mobility to make up for it. Here I had thought that the pre-buff Tiger II was garbage.

 

Even the soft stats are utter garbage.

 

EDIT: It could be a Tier 7 and no one would notice.


Edited by 7thNighthawk, 05 September 2020 - 05:55 PM.


Shrewd_Ape_In_The_Mist #16 Posted 05 September 2020 - 07:03 PM

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Well, this is one of the lines I'll definitely skip as I probably would do with every other german line...

From the other hand... if anything from the russian line would be in the top of the tree event I'm 100% sure I could go for that and not regret it later because everybody knows that in this russian fantasy game you simply can't go wrong with russian tanks.

For example, legends say, that even if you'd have normally missed the shoot due to your bad aim alone, the rng will make the shell hit either way as long as you're driving a russian tank. 



Lanrefni #17 Posted 06 September 2020 - 08:12 AM

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meh.

Already started eating away at my hand skin while grinding through Tiger P.

AFAIK, TIer X is quite bad, tier 9 is pretty good, although might be worse than the now-buffed E 75.



Koz23 #18 Posted 06 September 2020 - 09:17 AM

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Here's some feedback in regards to German vehicles, since WG really loves listening to this so much mentioned "feedback" : Remove the transmission "module" because it serves NO gameplay purpose other than being a pure handicap to some vehicles, most of them just "happening" to be German. It's not a feature, it's not entertaining, it's not fun, and it sure as hell shouldn't matter because this is an arcade game anyway, so just.... for the love of... just fix it. I'm getting sick and tired of getting shot in the front and having red tracks and engine damage.



Smelly_Cat #19 Posted 06 September 2020 - 10:45 AM

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VK4502B with turbo and vent works fine. It helped me to complete HT block missions with relative ease, even though in some battles people just spam gold on me. As long as the team is half-decent, does not allow the enemy to circle and gang up on me too easily.

guest273 #20 Posted 06 September 2020 - 04:54 PM

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The CW reward version of this is surprisingly better with 340mm HEAT pen and a stronger turret smh.




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