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Strapps #41 Posted 11 September 2020 - 01:58 PM

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View PostMiller1973, on 10 September 2020 - 11:26 PM, said:

Why not just make the bonus slot player definable regardless of class?

 

Because a large driver behind the change was the previous meta equipment for every tank "or you're doing it wrong". Allowing players to define the slot would have done nothing but add one more thing to the list of must-haves.



ares354 #42 Posted 13 September 2020 - 01:22 PM

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View PostInfryndiira, on 11 September 2020 - 01:27 AM, said:


Re-read what I said:

 

 

Equipment 2.0 Sandbox 1 had Tier 8-10 tanks with two specialised equipment slots; one was universal (eg. Survivability for heavy tanks) and one was tank-specific (eg. Mobility for the IS-7, Survivability for the Maus, etc). This concept allowed further specialisation but was rejected by the community rather overwhelmingly, because, quote, the community didn't like having tanks "shoehorned" into specific equipment setups (typically at the expense of the Holy Trinity Vents/Rammer/Vstab).

 

About the IS-3: Yes, it's a heavium. A medium-like heavy, with decent mobility (especially if you build into it with Turbocharger). Its armour has been power-crept. However, Improved Hardening doesn't rely on armour; it relies on tracks eating shots, and your tank having hit points (which it always does). +10% hp isn't "nothing" - just do the math. An IS-3 can get +150 hp with IH in Survivability, which brings it up to 1650. For context, at 1500 hp it takes ~3.85 shots at 390 alpha to kill it, while at 1650 hp it takes ~4,23 shots at 390 alpha; add RNG, HE splashes, lower-alpha gun hits and whatnot, and that 150 hp can really save your [edited]and allow you to keep your gun in-game much longer. It also helps you repair your tracks faster, and makes you lose your tracks a lot harder, even if you've already lost them once, which plays into techniques like reverse sidescraping and not being immobilised while doing heavium stuff.

 

About the M41: Of course, it can be built as a lightium/LT hunter. It's not how I would build any of my LTs, but it's doable. All I was saying is that the Scouting slot is not useless; it is anything but useless on the M41, considering its base view range, and potential of new equipment (eg by combining CVS+CO as a single example). Besides, why would an LT in any role not use even a single piece of Scouting equipment? At the very least you'll have Coated Optics on, which can still benefit ridiculously from that Scouting slot and the M41's high base view range.

 

As of not using the specialisation bonus, it's a more than viable choice in a lot of tanks. Most mediums still kick [edited]with Coated Optics-Gun Rammer-Vertical Stabiliser, despite none of them being Mobility equipment, and several Heavies can forego Survivability equipment as well.

You will never get it. 

YOU REJECT reason of another people arguments, so you talking on forum, remove idea of forum itself. 

UNIVERSAL slot, in 1 slot, that benefit not matter what equipment you put there, no matter what class you use. That is how this should look. IS 3 have crap hp on track anyway, which mean, IH dont help him at all. 



crnakoza #43 Posted 13 September 2020 - 01:49 PM

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View PostNebuched, on 08 September 2020 - 03:53 AM, said:

...for a IS-3 which gets penned at very long distances by WV's and same tier mediums...

 

You snuck this in your post pretty well. IS3 confirmed weak tonk...



Nishi_Kinuyo #44 Posted 13 September 2020 - 09:29 PM

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View Postares354, on 13 September 2020 - 01:22 PM, said:

You will never get it. 

YOU REJECT reason of another people arguments, so you talking on forum, remove idea of forum itself. 

UNIVERSAL slot, in 1 slot, that benefit not matter what equipment you put there, no matter what class you use. That is how this should look. IS 3 have crap hp on track anyway, which mean, IH dont help him at all. 

With a universal slot there is literally no point in having the universal slot to begin with, since people would use the same equipment regardless...

The entire point of the specialist slot is to promote diversity...



ares354 #45 Posted 13 September 2020 - 10:26 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 13 September 2020 - 09:29 PM, said:

With a universal slot there is literally no point in having the universal slot to begin with, since people would use the same equipment regardless...

The entire point of the specialist slot is to promote diversity...

So, I play badger, and i have to use firepower slot, even if that tank got one of the best aim times, rof, acc? Is that a diversity ? Nope. 

I cannot use buff to improve IH, or Turbo, because WG said all TD are same, and need firpower slot., 

 

There is not diversity in this, non. 



Cro006 #46 Posted 14 September 2020 - 08:12 AM

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Important note: diversity applies only to average, slightly above the average and under average players. Those who are good players, active players and especially paying players will have bounty and bond equipment which ignore diversity. They will have min maxed machines of war, while everyone else will have diverse tonks that cant even compare to the first ones. Gotta love diversity :) 

TankkiPoju #47 Posted 15 September 2020 - 07:06 AM

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You can still put what ever you wantr on slots, even if the eq type doesnt match the slot type.

 

Stop cry kid.



Unicorn_of_Steel #48 Posted 15 September 2020 - 07:38 AM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 09 September 2020 - 08:17 PM, said:

Spoiler

 

Thanks!







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