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cataseven #1 Posted 16 September 2020 - 09:34 AM

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Hi,

 

Most of the tanks improved in years, hp's are increased, armors are stronger, some players can increase their hp by %8 via equipment but BtChat has still limited ammo capacity. You have no chance to make a mistake and have to penetrate all. It should be increased



fwhaatpiraat #2 Posted 16 September 2020 - 09:48 AM

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That would be very neat. 2 extra clips please. :)

Edited by fwhaatpiraat, 16 September 2020 - 09:48 AM.


Cobra6 #3 Posted 16 September 2020 - 09:49 AM

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The Batchat ammo situation is something that really needs fixing. Ammo capacity was a good balancing factor back when the Bc line was first introduced but with all the newer auto(loaders/reloaders) having "infinite" ammo this needs to stop.

 

Give the Bc25t and also some of the French LT's enough ammo to carry properly when needed.

 

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UserZer00 #4 Posted 16 September 2020 - 11:08 AM

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So I'm the only one who thinks that autoloaders should only have one clip of each type of ammo?






(No, not really)

Thejagdpanther #5 Posted 16 September 2020 - 11:12 AM

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Arties then wheelie then autoloaders.

They deserve nearly nothing.

LolRoll #6 Posted 16 September 2020 - 03:45 PM

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I'd prefer a (slight) buff to the gun handling than one to the shell capacity of the tank.

Being able to hit and pen more reliably with the current number of clips feels more needed to me.

My 2 cents :)

Japualtah #7 Posted 16 September 2020 - 04:51 PM

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I support this.

 

The IS-4 is in the same boat, there is no reason to be short of ammo, ever, on any tank.

Except the crapbarn and deathstar which should have 5.

Total, not each.



hjorte #8 Posted 16 September 2020 - 05:04 PM

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The AMX 12 t ammo capacity has always been on the limit and even when the hitpoint increase was introduced and most tanks also got more ammo, the AMX 12 t was left behind, untouched, unadjusted. 

_Old_Spice_ #9 Posted 16 September 2020 - 05:08 PM

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Improve gun handling and standard penetration, at least like Char Futur tier9 has...

GalmTwo #10 Posted 16 September 2020 - 06:27 PM

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Yes, please! Buff the gun stats slightly, too! BC-25 needs more love!

Obsessive_Compulsive #11 Posted 16 September 2020 - 07:13 PM

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More ammo for 1357!

 

please kindly thank you.



Desyatnik_Pansy #12 Posted 16 September 2020 - 07:14 PM

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View Post_Old_Spice_, on 16 September 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

Improve gun handling and standard penetration, at least like Char Futur tier9 has...

 

To be fair, the Char bloom stats are worse than the BC (0.20/0.20/0.17 vs. 0.16/0.16/0.15) while the hardstats are noticeably better. 



saxsan4 #13 Posted 16 September 2020 - 07:58 PM

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Turan also

StronkiTonki #14 Posted 16 September 2020 - 08:45 PM

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I believe HP has not increased at all on higher tiers. However, I do think high tiers all need health buffs. It's insanely stupid how you're pretty much a 3 shot nowadays.



LethalWalou #15 Posted 16 September 2020 - 09:06 PM

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View PostLolRoll, on 16 September 2020 - 02:45 PM, said:

I'd prefer a (slight) buff to the gun handling than one to the shell capacity of the tank.

Being able to hit and pen more reliably with the current number of clips feels more needed to me.

My 2 cents :)

 

I'll add my 2 cents to the pile too. 

 

The gunhandling of an autoreloader was balance like that back in the day but it doesn't really fit in with the current standards. I would also support improving the chances of hitting rather than giving more chances to do so. 



NekoPuffer_PPP #16 Posted 17 September 2020 - 01:45 AM

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Ah yes, as if they weren't OP enough, let's give them even more ammo.

 

Never! The amount of times I've been YOLOrushed by a B-C 25t is ridiculous. Autoloaders are the most annoying tank type in the game after arty. They can run out of ammo all day long for all I care.

 

I have played the B-C 25t...I have run out of ammo some times...after I'd already done 5k+ damage. It's too easy to deal damage with autoloaders. Give them more ammo and you'll just make the experience for everyone else worse. They're a support class, not a carry class.


Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 17 September 2020 - 01:45 AM.


Desyatnik_Pansy #17 Posted 17 September 2020 - 03:40 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 17 September 2020 - 01:45 AM, said:

Ah yes, as if they weren't OP enough, let's give them even more ammo.

 

Never! The amount of times I've been YOLOrushed by a B-C 25t is ridiculous. Autoloaders are the most annoying tank type in the game after arty. They can run out of ammo all day long for all I care.

 

I have played the B-C 25t...I have run out of ammo some times...after I'd already done 5k+ damage. It's too easy to deal damage with autoloaders. Give them more ammo and you'll just make the experience for everyone else worse. They're a support class, not a carry class.

 

Yolo BCs aside, the 25t has the lowest damage potential of all Tier X Autoloaders. Even the 13 105 Has 1170 Extra damage potential. An extra clip (buffing the ammo capacity up to 35 Shells) would still leave the 25t as the second worst on damage potential, though with 13,650 Wouldn't be that far behind the 14,400 Of the T57 Heavy and 15,360 Of the TVP T 50/51. In fact, 13,650 Is still I think the lowest of all Tier X Mediums (excluding the M48A2/T54E1/T123E6 That IIRC Has never been available?), whereas the average potential in tier is mostly around 18k-20k.

 

I don't think buffing the ammo of the 25t will make the experience significantly worse for everyone else. It makes the BC A bit more threatening into the late game sure, but I don't think that's all too bad. It is really mostly just a quality of life change when tanks have gotten more armour, maps have been changed more in favour of hulldown Heavy brawls and whatnot and we now have an equipment that also buffs the health of vehicles, making the low damage potential even more painful to play with.



NekoPuffer_PPP #18 Posted 17 September 2020 - 09:57 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 17 September 2020 - 04:40 AM, said:

Yolo BCs aside, the 25t has the lowest damage potential of all Tier X Autoloaders. Even the 13 105 Has 1170 Extra damage potential. An extra clip (buffing the ammo capacity up to 35 Shells) would still leave the 25t as the second worst on damage potential, though with 13,650 Wouldn't be that far behind the 14,400 Of the T57 Heavy and 15,360 Of the TVP T 50/51. In fact, 13,650 Is still I think the lowest of all Tier X Mediums (excluding the M48A2/T54E1/T123E6 That IIRC Has never been available?), whereas the average potential in tier is mostly around 18k-20k.

 

I don't think buffing the ammo of the 25t will make the experience significantly worse for everyone else. It makes the BC A bit more threatening into the late game sure, but I don't think that's all too bad. It is really mostly just a quality of life change when tanks have gotten more armour, maps have been changed more in favour of hulldown Heavy brawls and whatnot and we now have an equipment that also buffs the health of vehicles, making the low damage potential even more painful to play with.

 

If you really desperately need those 5 extra shells, make it 6.

 

Because then, nerf the clip size to 4. The clip damage potential is the reason they're so popular with YOLOrushers, and so annoying.

 

Edited because my english had a stroke or something...


Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 17 September 2020 - 12:42 PM.


ilmavarvas #19 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:38 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 17 September 2020 - 09:57 AM, said:

 

If you really desperated need those 5 extra shells, make it 6.

 

Because then, nerf the clip size to 4. The clip damage potential is the reason they're so popular with YOLOrushers, and so annoying.

 

You hardly even play with tier X, so what's the problem? Tier X yoloing against your tier 8 should be the end of your tank anyway, more likely they should nerf the T-44-100, Proge 46 and EBR 75, as they are truly OP against tier 6.



lassekille #20 Posted 17 September 2020 - 01:07 PM

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Play the BC like me, yoloing like crazy, you will never survive long enough to run out of ammo.





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