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Possible T10 Meds?

Poll: Possible T10 Meds? (252 )

Would you allow Cold war Tanks as T10 meds?

  1. Yes why not we already have 1 tank from 1966 (142 [56.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.35%

  2. No only WW2 and prototypes + some tanks from the 50s and 60s (110 [43.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.65%

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CCC_Dober's Photo CCC_Dober 15 Jan 2012

 PAKFA, on 14 January 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

Yes, maybe, but he will be designated as a Heavy Tank on the Heavy tree line. Meanwhile the Medium line at tier 10 is empty... that's the point that's missing. For all nations, that is.

Pure speculation on my side here: We will see T54 or rather T55 back in full strength eventually. And some of the listed candidates from above will have to pick up the gauntlet. Otherwise the mighty russian ferrari will remain de-tuned forever and I don't really see that happening tbph. It will be rather interesting to see how upgunned T55s will hold up against the rest of the pack and since the T55 could go underwater up to 4.5m (that ability is supposed to be a big deal with the coming physics system). How can WG pass up the chance to introduce this tank as a demonstrator for all that is good and russian?
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power4's Photo power4 15 Jan 2012

come on! you  must be super noob to want t10 meds if you thing the speed and rof of those monsters but if im wrong then what happent with player who give lot of money to improve them with consumables ?
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GehakteMolen's Photo GehakteMolen 15 Jan 2012

 CCC_Dober, on 15 January 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

Pure speculation on my side here: We will see T54 or rather T55 back in full strength eventually. And some of the listed candidates from above will have to pick up the gauntlet. Otherwise the mighty russian ferrari will remain de-tuned forever and I don't really see that happening tbph. It will be rather interesting to see how upgunned T55s will hold up against the rest of the pack and since the T55 could go underwater up to 4.5m (that ability is supposed to be a big deal with the coming physics system). How can WG pass up the chance to introduce this tank as a demonstrator for all that is good and russian?

the full strength T54 was epic BUT it was just waaaaay 2 OP, for Tier X however, it would be nice.

ps: it would be nice to buff T54 back too old stats for just 2 weeks, that way ALL they whine about bias, op and whatsoever would atleast be gone, coz ppl finally relize what OP really means...

hes back, hail to the king, T54 will roflstomp ALL OF U

edit:

looked round a little, and if stuff gets balanced in a proper way (so nerfing current tier 9 mediums a little, hp/dps wise, and perhaps certian guns (removed top gun, and buff 2e best gun, or new, weaker gun) it might work

- USSR would get T55, just the old T54, with better gun (250 penetration?) and more hp/dps (t44, T54, t55 is nice, coz T44 was some sort of proto for T54, and T54 was just basic form of T55
- US could get m60 patton, pershing, patton, bigger patton is also nice
- UK could get chieftain or so
- French amx 30
- Germany, well, imo leopard is just mweah, it would be a ligth tank, with huge ass gun coz it would have 100% paper armor, best would be (i think) E50_2 or so, reduce weight of current E50 (and the new 1), and then give the tier 9 E50 weaker engine so it keeps its current speed, the better E50 would then get the current 1200hp top engine (and less weight so its faster) + far higer tracj/turret traverse speed etc it would be a real medium, or make E50 tier X, panther II, tier IX, and Panther tier VIII (old panther was really cool, new 1 stinks) and get some new Vk3xxx proto for tier 7, or make Vk-DB again tier 7, that tank should really be played more...
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Radical626's Photo Radical626 03 Feb 2012

The issue is, that currently all the maps in WOT are designed FOR heavy tanks. they are all far too small and are almost always based into lanes, most maps have no more than 3 directions which you can actually go. They plan on making new maps bigger which works, becuase it means the game becomes more tactical rather than have 3 tanks cmap one lane and send 10 over the other one.

The problem is that in real life meds replaced heavies after WW2 for the specific reason that they combine firepower and speed into the most flexible force. Tier 10 meds would simply be OP against heavies because the heavies need the extra tier in order to have the armour and hp advantage.
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Todd's Photo Todd 03 Mar 2012

I voted NO because I'd rather have a WOT2 with 1960-present tanks :)
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domokun's Photo domokun 04 Mar 2012

OP's dates on Chieftain, Leopard and AMX30 are all wrong. Those entered service in mid sixties (1965-65) and actually reached full operational capability in late sixites (around 1967 or 1968 as it takes while to build sufficient numbers, stockpile spare parts, develop tactics for 'em and train crews). Sure, there were prototypes earlier. Wouldn't T-64 be more fitting Soviet tier 10 medium as it is real contemporary of Leopard, AMX30 and Chieftain. It too entered service about same time.

Since there isn't tier 10 TD's yet.... those too should be added. I know perfect one for Americans, T58 heavy tank. They never even built actual functional prototype for it, just scale models and mockups. It's hull was supposed to be further development of M103 (upcoming US tier 9 heavy). Originally they intended to develop brand new 155mm gun for it, but that became too heavy and as result whole turret became too heavy, so they kept the old T7 gun of T30. The biggest problem of T30's 155mm gun, 40kg grenade and 20kg propellant charge that were slightly too heavy for loaders handle with ease, were solved with oscilating turret and revolver autoloader of six shells. Given the fact that both oscilating turrets and revolver autoloaders are already around it doesn't require any changes to game engine. Unloading single magazine would deal sensible 4500 points of damage in about 15 seconds, it would give it slight damage output advantage over similar tier heavies so balance of game would be just fine and everything would work as intended.

 Radical626, on 03 February 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

The issue is, that currently all the maps in WOT are designed FOR heavy tanks. they are all far too small and are almost always based into lanes, most maps have no more than 3 directions which you can actually go. They plan on making new maps bigger which works, becuase it means the game becomes more tactical rather than have 3 tanks cmap one lane and send 10 over the other one.

True.

 Radical626, on 03 February 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

The problem is that in real life meds replaced heavies after WW2 for the specific reason that they combine firepower and speed into the most flexible force. Tier 10 meds would simply be OP against heavies because the heavies need the extra tier in order to have the armour and hp advantage.

You forgot about one important factor why MBT's replaced heavies, possibly the most important one, cost. It's lot cheaper to develop one tank instead of two tanks. Not to mention building production lines, developing upgrades and providing logistics support for whole system.
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TheSmallCompanionCube's Photo TheSmallCompanionCube 04 Mar 2012

This is the current situation.....



Btw, it would be nice to test My fathers T-62 =D
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