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Update 1.10.1 - Equipment 2.0 Improvements

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Fozzy50 #21 Posted 22 October 2020 - 01:07 PM

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WG forces us to sell class I equipement (to purchase some other equipment) and therefore to loose a lot of money !!! :izmena:

WG must discount equipement -50%, or let us sell it for full price !!! (for some time)


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View PostEl_Caramello, on 21 October 2020 - 10:18 PM, said:

Where is alle my equipments from tier 2,3,4,5,6,7 ??????
And you call this improments ?? - Why do you want to take the joy of playing from us :deer::facepalm::angry:
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Where is alle my equipments from tier 2,3,4,5,6,7 ??????
And you call this improments ?? - Why do you want to tkae the joy of playing from us 

 

Hello.

 

Please read this post, it's explanatory:

http://forum.worldof...1#entry18149471

 

Equipment missing/removed from your tanks:

All the missing equipment can be found in your depot. Nothing was removed from your account.

After Equipment 2.0 some of your equipped equipment was not compatible anymore with your tank and they were marked with a yellow arrow. When update 1.10.1 went live, all this equipment was removed for free and sent to your depot so you can use it on other compatible tanks or sell it.

We were also very clear about this transition in our articles and on the forums.

 

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Antigeol #23 Posted 22 October 2020 - 01:41 PM

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FFS To all who say that their equipment is gone, ITS NOT. Its just demounted and and you can see it when you go to mount something in a higher class. Ex if you had a rammer on a t6 now you wont be able to see it, but if you go to t8 or 10, depending on the class, you will. Also its good for us as you can sell that top class equipment and rebuy the lower one and have money left. 

For example I had binos on a tank that took only t3 equipment. Now the t1 costs 600k one when sold gives 300k and t3 costs 50k and t2 costs 200k. So still a win for us. Only problem will be the hassle you have to go through to sell some equipment and rebuy the appropriate ones you want for the tanks you have.



Fozzy50 #24 Posted 22 October 2020 - 05:08 PM

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View PostAntigeol, on 22 October 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

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Now the t1 costs 600k one when sold gives 300k and t3 costs 50k and t2 costs 200k. So still a win for us. [...]

 

NO, it's not a win for us! Because we have to sell a 600K equipement for half price, which means we LOOSE half that value! Multiply by many equipements ! :izmena:

 

And WG doesn't even discount equipement we need to purchase ! SHAME ON WG !:izmena:


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View PostFozzy50, on 22 October 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

 

NO, it's not a win for us! Because we have to sell a 600K equipement for half price, which means we LOOSE half that value! Multiply by many equipements ! :izmena:

 

And WG doesn't even discount equipement we need to purchase ! SHAME ON WG !:izmena:

Mate have you read it at all?:facepalm:

 

First of all you DONT loose the equipment.  Its sent to depot. And if you had it on  a t6 lets say, you were wasting 600k for the effect on a t6, while now if you still want it on that said t6, you can sell it and sstill buy the same equipment for that tier and have a profit even with that half price selling.
Also they did have a sale for equipment not that far back...:facepalm:

 



MiticaTankistu #26 Posted 22 October 2020 - 08:49 PM

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Ok, I understand that the equipment has been send to depot, you have to sell the old one and buy new one.. etc. For me, that is lost time, I only play 30 min per day..

The overall feeling of this update is a bad one.. You should just convert the equipment, don;t waste our time.

I'm not sure what brilliant mind has come with this idea, it was a bad one imho..



Fozzy50 #27 Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:32 AM

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View PostAntigeol, on 22 October 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

Mate have you read it at all?:facepalm:

 

First of all you DONT loose the equipment.  Its sent to depot. And if you had it on  a t6 lets say, you were wasting 600k for the effect on a t6, while now if you still want it on that said t6, you can sell it and sstill buy the same equipment for that tier and have a profit even with that half price selling.
Also they did have a sale for equipment not that far back...:facepalm:

 

 

I did not say we loose equipement ! Read better please ! :facepalm:
I said we loose half it's value because we must sell it half price ! Can't you undestand that I purchased that equipement 600K and now I have to sell it for 300K ! IT'S A 50% LOSS !!! Multiply this by 83 tanks (I've 83 tanks from T2 to T7) !! You think it's a win for us ?!?!? You are wrong !!! I understand that whole thing better than you !!!

And the -25% discount was a shame !!!

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View PostMiticaTankistu, on 22 October 2020 - 08:49 PM, said:

[...] You should just convert the equipment, don;t waste our time.

Just convert the equipement means even more money loss for players !

 

 

 

And the camo net and silent exhaust still don't stack !!! Is WG going to fix this ????


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Fozzy50 #28 Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:55 AM

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All that Class I equipement now in our depot, means we did not lost it's value. But it's useless as we need class II & III equipement. That means we have to resell them but with 50% loss !!! :izmena:

WG MUST LET PLAYERS RESELL EQUIPEMENT FOR FULL PRICE, UNTIL 2021 !!! But they don't !!! SHAME ON WG !!! :izmena:


Edited by Fozzy50, 23 October 2020 - 09:56 AM.


Coronach76 #29 Posted 23 October 2020 - 01:03 PM

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"As mentioned in the patch notes, equipment that changed class and can no longer be mounted on the vehicle will be demounted for free and moved to the Depot with Update 1.10.1."
That's nice, demounted for free. But I have to re-buy the equipment for my tanks and that is not for free. And I already bought it in the first place... where is the logic in that?

Compensation is in order.

And don't bother to contact support, they hide behind release notes, general responses, and this forum (and moderators) to solve the issue...

 



WoT_RU_Doing #30 Posted 23 October 2020 - 01:07 PM

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I'd love to give feedback on the equipment 2.0 Improvements, but so far I haven't found any.

 

I think the whole thing is totally undesirable and a massive penalty to players. I've spent years optimising the equipment fits on my tanks. All I got before this update was 30 demount kits, so there was no point trying to refit everything. Now everything has been demounted, and I have no idea what needs to go where to get what I found was the best fit on each tank. Meanwhile I have 107 Class binos in my depot for example. If I sell these, I instantly lose 32 million credits, as I bought them at full price but only get half of that back. What a MASSIVE F*** YOU to all your players. I'd like to say I'm surprised, and by now such idiotic changes shouldn't make me angry, but WG seem to have a habit of screwing the player base these days.



Eloso65 #31 Posted 23 October 2020 - 07:59 PM

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why no comp. for the equipment lost!!! tnx WG!!!!

 

got tanks that now have 0 equ.and no refund for it!!!!! tnx u [edited]!!!!


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nagje #32 Posted 23 October 2020 - 08:09 PM

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We should get a refund for all the lost equipment. Cause it isnt in my depot.

Eloso65 #33 Posted 23 October 2020 - 08:23 PM

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View Postnagje, on 23 October 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

We should get a refund for all the lost equipment. Cause it isnt in my depot.


so true!!! but the lesser inteligents at WG dose not know that!!



zorgon6 #34 Posted 23 October 2020 - 10:26 PM

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Whenever you contact WG directly, they always suggest putting your suggestion on the forums, and yet here we are. We all hate the new equipment changes, but they're clearly not doing anything about it. The other day, I found that half my tanks had equipment missing. The missing equipment is in the depot, but totally unusable, unless you sell it. But as someone pointed out, why would you sell a piece of equipment that's now worth 600,000 credits? The whole thing is a dogs dinner. Has Equipment 2.0 achieved the goal of making things simpler? No, it's just a massive PItA. They could have made the changes without stuff disappearing. It's not too late though. I hope they do the right thing.

Fozzy50 #35 Posted 28 October 2020 - 10:38 AM

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Ghoststalker #36 Posted 28 October 2020 - 11:13 AM

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Wargaming,

 

Players have to invest a significant amount of time to just restore things that were broken by the update, yet no compensation is given. 

 

  • Equipment classes made lower tier tanks cheaper, but higher tier tanks more expensive. On average I am paying more, not less.
  • Equipment like the camouflage net and telescope now has a cost to demount. On average I am paying more, not less.
  • Equipment is automatically demounted, so it costs me time to equip these tanks again.

 

It was a good move to convert all existing equipment to tier 1. But being unable to sell at full price means that selling class 1 equipment to replace the deficit of class 2 or 3 slots is effectively a net loss in credits, as you're essentially invalidating the compensation you get from the conversion to class 1. So people are discouraged to sell and are instead forced to grind more equipment just to prevent losing credits. It is an insidious way to get people to play more just to fill the gaps that you created. 

 

The only improvement that Equipment 2.0 brought is that there are more viable equipment choices and some minor user interface improvements. The rest has been a significant downgrade. Yet you still call it an "Improvement".  Here's a piece of advice, allow players to demount their equipment for free and sell the equipment for the full price. Stop pretending like you didn't just make things more expensive. It is a significant shift towards players being absolutely required to have a premium account to play the game.


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BCL007 #37 Posted 29 October 2020 - 10:00 PM

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Credit Refund Idea...

A lot of people here have the same opinion and you know that problem exist and your update caused massive chaos and frustration. The question is what you gonna do about it. Full credit refund for each removed equipment would be the best option as I and a lot of other people do not have tier VIII-X tanks so all that equipment that has been removed is useless to us plus now I have to spend a lot of credits to buy equipment that I already had. I know this would make my life easier once I will get to tier VIII but it makes my life very difficult as I do not have 8 million credits to buy my missing equipment. Get our credits back.



Greyking_66 #38 Posted 04 November 2020 - 10:17 PM

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I'm a bit of a casual player, thoroughly hacked off to find I might spend hours re-equipping tanks and searching the depot for equipment I may need. I logged in to play World of Tanks not flipping World of Storemen.....

 

Why break something that was frankly fine?



nc30_guy #39 Posted 06 November 2020 - 08:09 PM

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All vehicles of all tiers should have access to the same amount and type of equipment there should be no handicap for low tiers.

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sammygo #40 Posted 10 November 2020 - 01:11 PM

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Personally I'm ok with the economics off the existing equip, but as everybody is complaining not on the new equip people need. You should have offerend 50% discount to begin with in order to let people refit everything. Given all the fuss it probably would also have been wiser to forced sell all equip for 50%, and offer 50% on new equip. That would give people an acceptable start of this new system.





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