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TheDrownedApe #1 Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:18 PM

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RANT!!!

 

OK god know how many times I've fired AP through objects. They always used to go through, albeit with reduced pen. Why do [content removed] decide that some pass through and some don't? I know they have recently added to some patch notes about busses and trucks. But walls, fences?

 

Give us a fricking chance to play with a brain and not rely on your nonsense noob protection methodology. Just show us all types of objects and what does, does not pass through, it's not hard to do. You just choose to change stuff on your whim and frick the player base.

 

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24doom24 #2 Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:25 PM

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what map and where.

azakow #3 Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:30 PM

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replay would help, but the ranting dog may ate it.

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Gremlin182 #4 Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:31 PM

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Some of the soft terrain items do annoy, not noticed your problem but I will make a note to check from now on.

 

I have a problem with objects which are destroyed if you drive through them but not by shellfire.

You are trying to spot an enemy tank through a bush and its fine.

At lest some of the wooden fences you cannot see a full outline of the tank or autoaim.

You fire a shell and the fence isn't touched though you still damage the tank.

Surely even if the fence doesn't detonate the shell part of it should be destroyed.



LethalWalou #5 Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:52 PM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 16 October 2020 - 08:18 PM, said:

RANT!!!

 

OK god know how many times I've fired AP through objects. They always used to go through, albeit with reduced pen. Why do [content removed] decide that some pass through and some don't? I know they have recently added to some patch notes about busses and trucks. But walls, fences?

 

Give us a fricking chance to play with a brain and not rely on your nonsense noob protection methodology. Just show us all types of objects and what does, does not pass through, it's not hard to do. You just choose to change stuff on your whim and frick the player base.

 

The shell only goes through one object and then can make contact to armor hitbox or one other object. There are some exceptions like train carts, trams and certain vehicle models that stop the shell right there and then. They will adjust those in the next patch so that AP and APCR acts the same with all objects and goes through while losing penetration: https://worldoftanks...ews/1-10-1-CT1/

 

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 Revised the logic of vehicle destruction. Now these objects completely absorb only HE (including HESH) and HEAT shells, and other types of shells only lose their armor penetration.
Objects: cars, trucks, tractors, buses, helicopters, airplanes, etc.

 

Regarding your issue, I wouldn't care about it at all if I were you. Things are going to change soon. Also a player of your level should have already gotten a good or full idea which objects you can shoot through and which you can't, or to simply avoid shooting through them. The logic behind it wasn't easy to understand but I found that it was continuous inside the game, as in same objects stopped shells rather than same objects performing differently on different maps.


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TheDrownedApe #6 Posted 16 October 2020 - 10:00 PM

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View Postazakow, on 16 October 2020 - 08:30 PM, said:

replay would help, but the ranting dog may ate it.

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An E4 touched me where it hurt...through an object. I have the replay but it's pointless


Edited by TheDrownedApe, 16 October 2020 - 10:03 PM.


Japualtah #7 Posted 16 October 2020 - 10:37 PM

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This was - secretly - put into place as a deterrent to full gold ammo load-outs.

It is supposed to be infuriating to blow a fence for 8k credits.



CausticSoda #8 Posted 16 October 2020 - 11:02 PM

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I still think the haystacks stopping HE rounds is funny.

shikaka9 #9 Posted 17 October 2020 - 08:37 AM

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well like someone yesterday said - it's a cartoon game  ... and in cartoons physics is magical :teethhappy: 

gunslingerXXX #10 Posted 17 October 2020 - 09:26 AM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 16 October 2020 - 09:18 PM, said:

RANT!!!

 

OK god know how many times I've fired AP through objects. They always used to go through, albeit with reduced pen. Why do [content removed] decide that some pass through and some don't? I know they have recently added to some patch notes about busses and trucks. But walls, fences?

 

Give us a fricking chance to play with a brain and not rely on your nonsense noob protection methodology. Just show us all types of objects and what does, does not pass through, it's not hard to do. You just choose to change stuff on your whim and frick the player base.

 

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Its an additional RNG factor, apparently there was a secret questionaire and all imaginary players asked for extra RNG



Bordhaw #11 Posted 17 October 2020 - 10:24 AM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 16 October 2020 - 08:18 PM, said:

RANT!!!

 

OK god know how many times I've fired AP through objects. They always used to go through, albeit with reduced pen. Why do [content removed] decide that some pass through and some don't? I know they have recently added to some patch notes about busses and trucks. But walls, fences?

 

Give us a fricking chance to play with a brain and not rely on your nonsense noob protection methodology. Just show us all types of objects and what does, does not pass through, it's not hard to do. You just choose to change stuff on your whim and frick the player base.

 

General insult.

Post edited.

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beercritch #12 Posted 17 October 2020 - 10:29 AM

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hmm.. people asking for replays as they think this is a rare occurrence or is it a troll?

 

I suspect the latter



Randomar #13 Posted 17 October 2020 - 11:29 PM

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View Postbeercritch, on 17 October 2020 - 10:29 AM, said:

hmm.. people asking for replays as they think this is a rare occurrence or is it a troll?

I suspect the latter

 

Correct. Same for asking what map.

Because we can see on the map if the object is destructionable or not.

 

What I don't get either, is the fact that Wargaming uses Farming houses for both.

In my believe they should place indestructible bunkers or rocks instead. 

 



Bulldog_Drummond #14 Posted 17 October 2020 - 11:41 PM

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Fear is the Key

UrQuan #15 Posted 18 October 2020 - 07:55 AM

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Something that is often overlooked with destructible objects is that not all shells continue after destroying such destructible object. AP & APCR pen & continue (with reduced pen), but HEAT (and obviously HE/HESH) don't.

HEAT having trouble going through destructible objects is the same reason it has trouble with spaced armor: it reacts at first impact. Once it hits something, it rapidly loses pen power.

 






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