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Community #1 Posted 27 October 2020 - 10:10 AM

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On guard for the return of the most stylish of STGs!

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Dota_All_Stars #2 Posted 27 October 2020 - 10:27 AM

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Got it recently. Very disappointing tank. It's slow,has  bad gun and no armor. Regular lvl 8 obj 416 is hella better then this pice of junk 

MechLen #3 Posted 27 October 2020 - 11:03 AM

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It's a crap.

Slow, butter armour, 13sec reload (bia, rammer, vent), low pen.

You can try to snipe as a TD, but the accuracy is horrible and use HE to pen.

All and all ... nice way how to spend money for something which will just rust in garage ;-)


Edited by MechLen, 27 October 2020 - 11:04 AM.


Final_Eclipse #4 Posted 27 October 2020 - 11:22 AM

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I've had it for a long time and I've only played a few games with it big rubbish in every aspect. Don't waste your money and nerves with it.

O_o_Babbuino #5 Posted 27 October 2020 - 11:41 AM

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"can rely on its superb accuracy"

 

Stop lying!



Simona2k #6 Posted 27 October 2020 - 12:13 PM

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beautiful and good tank

Maltratatoru #7 Posted 27 October 2020 - 12:26 PM

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man, what the hell, i know stg is not very good, but is not bad either, it has very good alpha damage with ok penetration , and the gun  is accurate ... what, 0.32 accuracy is bad? granted, the soft stats during movement and turret rotation is kinda bad, but still... and the mobility is ok, almost on par with obj 416. the only thing that i don't like is that it has bad dpm , only 370 view range so you need food+optics+good crew, to have full view range.

MechLen #8 Posted 27 October 2020 - 01:07 PM

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How many battles do you have in it recently?
Do you know that numbers, and the gameplay, are completely two different independent things right?

johnson003 #9 Posted 27 October 2020 - 01:10 PM

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View PostMechLen, on 27 October 2020 - 01:07 PM, said:

How many battles do you have in it recently?
Do you know that numbers, and the gameplay, are completely two different independent things right?

yes, the *numbers and the gameplay* are completely two different things, but the tank works 95% of the time, the only downside is that if you want the max view range you need to get optics + food



Sstyx #10 Posted 27 October 2020 - 01:10 PM

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 Which equipment and tactic do you recommend for this tank? I have this tank for a long time, but I haven't played with it yet :)

wsatnutter #11 Posted 27 October 2020 - 01:58 PM

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tank is meh and the price is ludicrous 

MechLen #12 Posted 27 October 2020 - 04:06 PM

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View PostSstyx, on 27 October 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

 Which equipment and tactic do you recommend for this tank? I have this tank for a long time, but I haven't played with it yet :)

 

Play it like the TD from back and don't listen chat and clickers.

Play it like med only when you can one shot tank (360 DMG) and run/hide.

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View Postjohnson003, on 27 October 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

yes, the *numbers and the gameplay* are completely two different things, but the tank works 95% of the time, the only downside is that if you want the max view range you need to get optics + food


I don't agree.

I got around 450 battles in it. With all the new tanks with autoloaders, and their heavy armour ... with your 13sec reload, soft armour, and horrible mobility ... you are very easy target. The first one!


Edited by MechLen, 27 October 2020 - 04:35 PM.


EinMizlingDk #13 Posted 27 October 2020 - 07:04 PM

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or you can get for free if you have 8000 bonds too spare :P

teriaksu #14 Posted 27 October 2020 - 08:12 PM

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It's the tank I accidentally bought as my first premium, I liked how it looked.

 

It quickly made me realize it's not an easy vehicle to perform well in. The gun is unreliable, the armor is and isn't at the same time, and it's hella slow ( I run mine with Turbo equipment instead of Vents ).  After 150ish battles I started understanding it, I can make it sorta work.

 

But I do recommend other premium tanks instead of this one. More mobile ones, to begin with


 

View PostDota_All_Stars, on 27 October 2020 - 11:27 AM, said:

Regular lvl 8 obj 416 is hella better then this pice of junk 


It ain't. There's something about not having a full 360 turret that... just... grinds my gears. At least in the STG I can shoot with my hull turned 180, so when I get shot my engine doesn't die instantly



Edit: still better than the 416, imo


Edited by teriaksu, 27 October 2020 - 08:32 PM.


Starforge #15 Posted 28 October 2020 - 05:04 AM

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With 0.26 accuracy and 390 alpha its best played as a TD during the first phase of the battle.
Took me some 50-ish battles to understand how its best played, but general opinion is this:
-Most of the time you will be facing with your back, shoot and run tactics works best.
-Turret armor is very good but tank lacks gun depression.
-Pinpoint accuracy and big Oof of alpha makes the enemy shiver.
-APCR works very good.
-Catches fire very often so better play a support role.
-Slow as hell so pick your position very carefully and withdraw ahead of time.
To sum it up: Tank is pretty good if you focus on its strengths and boost  the reload time for better DPM. Not recommended for new players.

zakktell #16 Posted 28 October 2020 - 06:57 AM

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I got the Guard version when it was first released.It was a really meh tank.Then i got the non special camo version from the wtfe100 "special" fooLlockers.The only tier 8 prem i got from(144 openings) gambling away my money so now i got to of this meh tank sitting in my garage doing nothing.

Sell the t77 instead so those can get it too that just gambled away their money on fooLlockers.I don'zt mind if new content is locked behind a paywall as you can see from my acc i am generous with my credit card.But why the F*** we need RNG in a paywall in the premium shop?



sir_alex_ice #17 Posted 29 October 2020 - 08:32 AM

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This is probably the worst tier 8 medium soviet tank, because outside the big alpha it is abysmal:

- excessively long reload time

- huge dispersion

- no gun depression to speak of

- no side-scrapping possible despite rear mounted turret

- supposedly strong turret will be reliably penned

- crap mobility and agility for a medium tank


Edited by sir_alex_ice, 29 October 2020 - 08:32 AM.


agemennon541 #18 Posted 29 October 2020 - 10:50 AM

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Not trying to change opinions here but this tank and some other older prem tanks like CDC can really use some buffs to make them more playable, ignore this comment if making new and stronger prem tanks makes WG more money, keep doing what you are doing




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