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[ziratulbihac]

So many players get away with it it's insane.

 

I've been pushed every few games by players ... pushed down from bridge, pushed from cover...

 

WG has been doing nothing to stop that practice, absolutely nothing. 

 

Please let us kill them at least, one-way friendly fire for those who cause you dmg by pushing you into enemy fire. 

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

It is. Contact support for a "Physics abuse" ticket and explain in detail what happened and when. Include replay with timestamps.

 

 

[Doozerr]

Create a ticket, send a replay, the pusher will get a 3 day ban

[BethHarmon]

It is a punishable offence for pushing an ally out of cover and into enemy fire. 

Please submit a ticket to Support with the player's IGN, and the relevant evidence, i.e. a replay file of that battle. And a timestamp would be nice. 

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

Tickets work every time. You just gotta write one up (politely) and you'll have effectively teamkilled them in every game for the next 3 days, if you catch my drift.

[In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer]

Doozerr, on 30 October 2020 - 02:59 PM, said:

Create a ticket, send a replay, the pusher will get a 3 day ban

 

If he is lucky. A clanmate got 7 days for pushing another player out of a bush. Since that time I am using tickets with "physical abuse" in this case.

[kejmo]

Because WG thinks its "a coincidence" and that players dont do that intentionally.

 

Same as drowning.

[BethHarmon]

In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer, on 30 October 2020 - 10:22 PM, said:

 

If he is lucky. A clanmate got 7 days for pushing another player out of a bush. Since that time I am using tickets with "physical abuse" in this case.

If I am not wrong on this, I think the sanction escalates the more one player commits that violation. It can go from 3d to 7d, and so on, if it is a repeated violation.

[Galladog]

A player on my team was pushing me for no reason in a match on Saturday night, I sent the replay with a description of what happened with a time stamp to WG for physics abuse, the player stopped playing an hour later and hasn't played since.

In the previous week they had played every day, coincidence, I think not.

[Japualtah]

Got a player banned yesterday for that, don't be lazy, fill a complaint, join the replay and voila

[Dramya]

ziratulbihac, on 30 October 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:

So many players get away with it it's insane.

 

I've been pushed every few games by players ... pushed down from bridge, pushed from cover...

 

WG has been doing nothing to stop that practice, absolutely nothing. 

 

Please let us kill them at least, one-way friendly fire for those who cause you dmg by pushing you into enemy fire. 

 

First thing first, I don't condone pushing people into enemy fire and I think it is a sick thing to do. I think it is good it is punishable, and people should enable replays to help eradicate this kind of behaviour.

 

However, I also think this is something to reflect upon. This kind of behaviour does not happen for nothing. It is despicable, but it happens for a reason, and therefor it is good to learn what those reasons are and what you yourself can do to minimize it happening to you. In my opinion there are 3 different reasons why this happens:

• Accidental: A player is disconnected while driving or a player is tunnelvisioning and doesn't see you. Nothing much you can do about this, disconnetions happen and people tunnelvision. However, these instances are actually quite rare and usually they will not persist in pushing you once they notice, maybe even followed by an apology.
• Harassment: Some players make a sport out of harassing players, blocking retreats or pushing people into enemy fire. Only thing you can do here is to keep an eye on your surroundings and try to ignore the person harassing you for this battle. Of course you should report this, but there's nothing to learn from this. This also happens rarely, personally I have not witnessed this in the last year and I have played a lot. Does not mean it doesn't happen, but does indicate it is not very common.
• Aggravated intent: This one is most common, people get aggravated for a whole scala of reasons and sometimes react in aggressive ways like pushing people out of their spot into enemy fire. However, this also happens because of a reason that might be valid (even though the reaction is wrong). You might be because you are occupying a spot that is much better suited for for instance a hulldown tank instead of your light tank. You might also be "dancing" in front of a team member, making it impossible for him to get a shot.

 

The last reason is the thing you can learn from, because they are directly related to how you play and where you decide to play. I'm not saying it is wrong, and I'm not saying other people always have the right reasons. However, in many cases they actually have a point. It does not help your team if you for instance are constantly blocking their shots.

 

When this happens, try to understand why this is happening. It's ok to get angry with the person pushing you, I would be too, but in the long run it helps you more when you understand the motives behind certain actions so you can learn how to avoid them.

[Haws]

Dramya, on 30 October 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

 

Wall of text

 

What he said!!

 

I don't get pushed out of bushes, but then again I don't sit in TD spots in a heavy etc. If it's a regular occurrence maybe it's your personal style of gameplay that needs a minor adjustment because you're doing something that winds people up, or it could be just unlucky RNG with crappy teammates - as you imply.

 

But either way it shouldn't happen so report it as said above

[In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer]

Haws, on 30 October 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

What he said!!

 

I don't get pushed out of bushes, but then again I don't sit in TD spots in a heavy etc. If it's a regular occurrence maybe it's your personal style of gameplay that needs a minor adjustment because you're doing something that winds people up, or it could be just unlucky RNG with crappy teammates - as you imply.

 

But either way it shouldn't happen so report it as said above

 

In the last months I got 3 times pushed. In 2 cases I played a non-armored TD and drove to a typical position for that tank at beginning. Then I got pushed within the first minute down the hill (once on Province, once on El Halluf) and my tank got directly wrecked both times. Both times intentionally. So please tell me, where my "gameplay need a minor update" to avoid this?

[hjorte]

Ticket with replay works. Do it.

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In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer, on 30 October 2020 - 03:22 PM, said:

 

If he is lucky. A clanmate got 7 days for pushing another player out of a bush. Since that time I am using tickets with "physical abuse" in this case.

 

I learned the hard way (here) that it's 'physics abuse'

[LethalWalou]

In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer, on 30 October 2020 - 02:22 PM, said:

 

If he is lucky. A clanmate got 7 days for pushing another player out of a bush. Since that time I am using tickets with "physical abuse" in this case.

 

Was this around the time of one of those fair play announcements. I think you'r friend tricked you and they actually served an illegal mod ban. 

[wsatnutter]

but it is

word your complaint well and mannered 

[Dramya]

In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer, on 30 October 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

 

In the last months I got 3 times pushed. In 2 cases I played a non-armored TD and drove to a typical position for that tank at beginning. Then I got pushed within the first minute down the hill (once on Province, once on El Halluf) and my tank got directly wrecked both times. Both times intentionally. So please tell me, where my "gameplay need a minor update" to avoid this?

 

Did you read my text that he was replying to?

 

Sometimes it's just bad luck of having someone with ill intent in your game and there is nothing you can do about it. My response, and his reaction, was mainly focused to the people that see it happen "every few games" instead of occasionally. In your case, just create tickets under "Physics abuse" and see the unintentional vacation time of your wrong-doer on a statistics site of your choice.

[Reroll_Noob_DK]

ziratulbihac, on 30 October 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

So many players get away with it it's insane.

 

I've been pushed every few games by players ... pushed down from bridge, pushed from cover...

 

WG has been doing nothing to stop that practice, absolutely nothing. 

 

Please let us kill them at least, one-way friendly fire for those who cause you dmg by pushing you into enemy fire. 

 

 

Dont report in-game. Make ticket as previous players explained it to you. In-game reporting so far....havent seen to be working. 

[Gixxer66]

Dramya, on 30 October 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

 

First thing first, I don't condone pushing people into enemy fire and I think it is a sick thing to do. I think it is good it is punishable, and people should enable replays to help eradicate this kind of behaviour.

 

However, I also think this is something to reflect upon. This kind of behaviour does not happen for nothing. It is despicable, but it happens for a reason, and therefor it is good to learn what those reasons are and what you yourself can do to minimize it happening to you. In my opinion there are 3 different reasons why this happens:

• Accidental: A player is disconnected while driving or a player is tunnelvisioning and doesn't see you. Nothing much you can do about this, disconnetions happen and people tunnelvision. However, these instances are actually quite rare and usually they will not persist in pushing you once they notice, maybe even followed by an apology.
• Harassment: Some players make a sport out of harassing players, blocking retreats or pushing people into enemy fire. Only thing you can do here is to keep an eye on your surroundings and try to ignore the person harassing you for this battle. Of course you should report this, but there's nothing to learn from this. This also happens rarely, personally I have not witnessed this in the last year and I have played a lot. Does not mean it doesn't happen, but does indicate it is not very common.
• Aggravated intent: This one is most common, people get aggravated for a whole scala of reasons and sometimes react in aggressive ways like pushing people out of their spot into enemy fire. However, this also happens because of a reason that might be valid (even though the reaction is wrong). You might be because you are occupying a spot that is much better suited for for instance a hulldown tank instead of your light tank. You might also be "dancing" in front of a team member, making it impossible for him to get a shot.

 

The last reason is the thing you can learn from, because they are directly related to how you play and where you decide to play. I'm not saying it is wrong, and I'm not saying other people always have the right reasons. However, in many cases they actually have a point. It does not help your team if you for instance are constantly blocking their shots.

 

When this happens, try to understand why this is happening. It's ok to get angry with the person pushing you, I would be too, but in the long run it helps you more when you understand the motives behind certain actions so you can learn how to avoid them.

 

And then there's the player who actually pays no attention what so ever, and is so intent on firing his one and only shot of the game he gets right behind you so when you poke to shoot he presses W and stops you retreating back into cover. That kind never acknowledges their mistake or even that they caused their own team to lose a tank.

 

Probably the same guy that pulls out of a junction and wipes your car / bike out  "sorry mate didn't see you"

[Haws]

In_memory_of_Bud_Spencer, on 30 October 2020 - 04:42 PM, said:

 

In the last months I got 3 times pushed. In 2 cases I played a non-armored TD and drove to a typical position for that tank at beginning. Then I got pushed within the first minute down the hill (once on Province, once on El Halluf) and my tank got directly wrecked both times. Both times intentionally. So please tell me, where my "gameplay need a minor update" to avoid this?

In your case it would appear you come under the latter of the ("If it's a regular occurrence maybe it's your personal style of gameplay that needs a minor adjustment because you're doing something that winds people up, or it could be just unlucky RNG with crappy teammates&quot

ie; you got the loony teammates -what I was saying is if it's happening most games. It's probably you, If not then it's the loonies.