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[ProPip]

And you know it WG. When will you do something besides allowing them come back.

What I'm saying you even promote cheating.

[malachi6]

The earth is flat.

Humans have not walked upon the moon.

Aliens are on the earth.

Ghosts are real.

 

There is evidence for all of the above, yet all of those claims are false. Why should anybody believe what you say when you supply zero evidence or even an example?

 

People cheat there is no denying that.  The amount of cheating and its impact are the issues that need discussing.

Edited by malachi6, 31 October 2020 - 08:54 AM.

[__Eric__]

And I guess you have plenty of evidence to back that up?

 

Replays for example.....

 

 

[Kooallu]

ProPip, on 31 October 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

And you know it WG. When will you do something besides allowing them come back.

What I'm saying you even promote cheating.

 

i have never encountered cheater or any abnormal behavior, once i saw ghost shell... then i come to the forum and its feels like everyone here have seen cheaters?

[shikaka9]

 eh ... 

[jabster]

Kooallu, on 31 October 2020 - 08:05 AM, said:

 

i have never encountered cheater or any abnormal behavior, once i saw ghost shell... then i come to the forum and its feels like everyone here have seen cheaters?

You will have encountered lots of players using illegal mods but the fact you can’t reliably spot them says a lot about the effectiveness of cheats in WoT.

[kaneloon]

I must testify : some players cheat by looking at the map and playing accordingly.

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

The game is not full of cheaters. It is however full of people that are better than you.

 

You should probably make peace with that now and save yourself the aggravation. 

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

568 WN8 

 

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[_AiSaatana]

Please, go to youtube, search " wot game mechanics"

 

There you go, cheats explained

[CausticSoda]

Whilst I am suspicious about some peoples play, it is hard to know even with replays if that person just happened to have the game of their life or are being helped.

 

Saying that you comment about WGing letting cheaters back, they did let people that were banned back BUT I understood that this didnt include people that had used illegal mods.

[AmphetamineLogic]

kaneloon, on 31 October 2020 - 09:13 AM, said:

I must testify : some players cheat by looking at the map and playing accordingly.

 

My favourite cheat is to use large first aid and repair packs instead of taking my punishment for doing something stupid in a game.

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

AmphetamineLogic, on 31 October 2020 - 10:18 AM, said:

 

My favourite cheat is to use large first aid and repair packs instead of taking my punishment for doing something stupid in a game.

 

SHAME! *Ding!*

[aleksot]

I noticed people are using destructible objects mod on minimap, as they are pinging on the map enemy driving position, which at happened to be corect.

Wg should remove fences from the game, because you cant move from the base without enemy knowing your direction. 

[Enherjaren]

Ebola threads like this should be shut down instantly.
 

[Somnorila]

jabster, on 31 October 2020 - 09:13 AM, said:

You will have encountered lots of players using illegal mods but the fact you can’t reliably spot them says a lot about the effectiveness of cheats in WoT.

You can't really cheat at this game because the important bits of information is not so easily accessible to manipulate and get cheats like in other games. So at most you can have is a sort of making due with what you have and be creative in your hacking approaches, hence some illegal mods. But cheating and playing normally have the same bottom line, an ability to predict events so you end up on top. This game is so random that cheating with mods is as good as playing normally and in some instances even worse.

The only way i can think of a real cheat is to somehow manipulate the order in which the servers get his line of events. Somewhat like that approach to cheat on consoles where you basically force lag on yourself to make some fast actions that the server would interpret as before of any of the action of the opponent. But this is so easy to mitigate from the standpoint of the developers that is barely deserve any mention. As it works only if the devs don't care at all about cheating and fighting it.  

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aleksot, on 31 October 2020 - 10:45 AM, said:

I noticed people are using destructible objects mod on minimap, as they are pinging on the map enemy driving position, which at happened to be corect.

Wg should remove fences from the game, because you cant move from the base without enemy knowing your direction. 

I agree. They said that they can't make all buildings destructible for game play reasons. I'd say that also for game play reasons they could remove all destructible clutter. For one it would make this mod totally inoperable but more importantly it would make the game cleaner and make maps easier to navigate and finding shots. There is no point of making a game pretty just for some to find it better to run it on low details to remove grass or others to use mods to remove fences and other clutter so they can aim better at enemies. The way i see it, it's the same situation that happened in counter strike when they upgraded from CSSource to CSGO. At first they kept some of the movable and destructible elements but not all as they wanted a better competitive environment. And in the end they removed every element that could be moved because that made the matches too random and also hindered players sometime. You know, like it happens here when you crash some truck or lamp post or whatever and then you have stuck on your turret a piece of that, so when you want to aim at an enemy and change camera, you can't see anything because of that stuck piece.  

Edited by Somnorila, 31 October 2020 - 11:52 AM.

[TheGreatGazoo]

Kooallu, on 31 October 2020 - 08:05 AM, said:

 

i have never encountered cheater or any abnormal behavior, once i saw ghost shell... then i come to the forum and its feels like everyone here have seen cheaters?

Now I know you're FOS if you've only seen a ghost shell once.

[jabster]

Somnorila, on 31 October 2020 - 10:05 AM, said:

You can't really cheat at this game because the important bits of information is not so easily accessible to manipulate and get cheats like in other games. So at most you can have is a sort of making due with what you have and be creative in your hacking approaches, hence some illegal mods. But cheating and playing normally have the same bottom line, an ability to predict events so you end up on top. This game is so random that cheating with mods is as good as playing normally and in some instances even worse.

The only way i can think of a real cheat is to somehow manipulate the order in which the servers get his line of events. Somewhat like that approach to cheat on consoles where you basically force lag on yourself to make some fast actions that the server would interpret as before of any of the action of the opponent. But this is so easy to mitigate from the standpoint of the developers that is barely deserve any mention. As it works only if the devs don't care at all about cheating and fighting it.  

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I agree. They said that they can't make all buildings destructible for game play reasons. I'd say that also for game play reasons they could remove all destructible clutter. For one it would make this mod totally inoperable but more importantly it would make the game cleaner and make maps easier to navigate and finding shots. There is no point of making a game pretty just for some to find it better to run it on low details to remove grass or others to use mods to remove fences and other clutter so they can aim better at enemies. The way i see it, it's the same situation that happened in counter strike when they upgraded from CSSource to SCGO. At first they kept some of the movable and destructible elements but not all as they wanted a better competitive environment. And in the end they removed every element that could be moved because that made the matches too random and also hindered players sometime. You know, like it happens here when you crash some truck or house and then you have stuck you your turret a piece of that, so when you want to aim at an enemy and change camera, you can't see anything because of that stuck piece.  

I’d still class the use of illegal mods as cheating even if those mods are particularly effective especially compared to other games. The important part I basically agree with, the mods aren’t that useful but I can see how some of them would definitely help me.

[wAr_God_11]

[BravelyRanAway]

ProPip, on 31 October 2020 - 07:41 AM, said:

And you know it WG. When will you do something besides allowing them come back.

What I'm saying you even promote cheating.

When did WG allow them to come back?