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[hjorte]

Mountain Pass / Caucasus. Probably old news for some...

[Balc0ra]

I never used that spot anyway. I used the one in the middle to the right more back. As that spot was mostly useless if the enemy pushed the hill on the flank and spotted you there. 

[Bulldog_Drummond]

The great thing about the forum is that I learn so much from experts

I feel certain that it will be reflected at some point in my stats.

[hjorte]

Balc0ra, on 04 November 2020 - 07:56 PM, said:

I never used that spot anyway. I used the one in the middle to the right more back. As that spot was mostly useless if the enemy pushed the hill on the flank and spotted you there. 

 

I can guarantee you it's not useless

 

Edited by hjorte, 04 November 2020 - 08:29 PM.

[Balc0ra]

hjorte, on 04 November 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

 

I can guarantee you it's not useless

 

I said it was useless as soon as the enemy takes H4, not instantly useless from the start. But I still like that bush a bit back to the center as there is always a light that sneaks past you don't see and gets on H4, or goes across that lake the second you get up. Then your rounds will be cut short the second you get spotted. Thus I see it as a risk = reward spot, vs just using the equally effective and safer spot a bit behind.

 

But that's just me. 

Edited by Balc0ra, 04 November 2020 - 08:40 PM.

[hjorte]

The ELC in that forward bush will stay unspotted, even when an enemy LT reaches H4. At least with the previous size of the bush.

The forward bush is approximately 80 meter closer to the crossing tanks on the other side. That must mean something wrt. spotting the train of tanks driving past over there.

If an enemy tank goes across towards me, I can easily drive back in cover and move over the bush you mention. I rarely do that though - I just move back and across to the other corner at E3 and challenge the enemy tank which is coming up the ramp.

[Wannabe_Knispel]

hjorte, on 04 November 2020 - 07:52 PM, said:

The ELC in that forward bush will stay unspotted, even when an enemy LT reaches H4. At least with the previous size of the bush.

The forward bush is approximately 80 meter closer to the crossing tanks on the other side. That must mean something wrt. spotting the train of tanks driving past over there.

If an enemy tank goes across towards me, I can easily drive back in cover and move over the bush you mention. I rarely do that though - I just move back and across to the other corner at E3 and challenge the enemy tank which is coming up the ramp.

When I'm in that bush with my ELC, I actually worry more about blind shots once the enemies get spotted crossing... Such an obvious place to blind shoot...

[hjorte]

Wannabe_Knispel, on 05 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

When I'm in that bush with my ELC, I actually worry more about blind shots once the enemies get spotted crossing...

 

I do too A quick calculation from memory: I'm blindshot (and hit) maybe 1 out of 8 times when I'm in that bush.

 

Edited by hjorte, 05 November 2020 - 09:43 AM.

[Discontinued]

We need some virtual manure or online miracle grow.

[hjorte]

And another one. The first time I take a much larger tank into that newly nerfed bush 

 

[OreH75]

It is nerfed to a level only LT tanks fit into this bush (or on other maps).

[vasilinhorulezz]

Actually in a few maps bushes are shorter after update, I noticed it on Lakeville and in the 9-0 line in Steppes.

[Cobra6]

It's very annoying when WG remove bushes, if there is imbalance, they should add a bush to the other side.

 

This "Agent Orange" map design makes maps more boring as they become more desolate and linear/simple.

 

Cobra 6

[SuperOlsson]

hjorte, on 10 November 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

And another one. The first time I take a much larger tank into that newly nerfed bush 

 

I always die a horrible death when I take that bush anyway, can't play it, I usually take the corner on the other side, where the STB-1 went.

 

Btw what are the three balls under your reticle? Can't figure out their function.

[azakow]

1. The bushes were fertilized without notice, hence they grew.
2. No they have reverted this without notice, hence back to what they were before.

 

As always, step one is notices by few only and not called "buff", whereas step two is called "nerf".

IMO step one some unintentional change of bush models which was correct recently (after more than 10 months).

 

Spoiler

 

SuperOlsson, on 11 November 2020 - 08:03 AM, said:

I always die a horrible death when I take that bush anyway, can't play it, I usually take the corner on the other side, where the STB-1 went.

 

Btw what are the three balls under your reticle? Can't figure out their function.

You need them when bushing hard.

 

Edited by azakow, 11 November 2020 - 08:47 AM.

[TankkiPoju]

Only noobs use that bush. There is a much better one on other side of the gap.

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Cobra6, on 11 November 2020 - 07:42 AM, said:

It's very annoying when WG remove bushes, if there is imbalance, they should add a bush to the other side.

 

 

There is a bush on the other side.

 

You need to make it yourself.

[Famepackexe]

The bush needed some trimming it will grow back 

On a side note i also used that bush in the past but if an enemy Ebr rushes middle you are in trouble so i also use the bush on the far right more these days.

[TankkiPoju]

Famepackexe, on 11 November 2020 - 09:46 AM, said:

On a side note i also used that bush in the past but if an enemy Ebr rushes middle you are in trouble so i also use the bush on the far right more these days.

 

Thats a much better bush, and you can also double bush from there. And pull back faster if you get spotted.

[hjorte]

From the nerfed bush I mention, you have the full angle of vision and can spot enemy tanks even when they hug the big rock at H5 after having driven past the opening. You can't spot those tanks from the other bush mentioned.

I wasn't blindfired in this case either. Very rarely do I get blindfired there, regardless of it being an "obvious place" to blindfire.

I wasn't spotted either, because their scout had a limited angle of view and didn't run towards us.

I could even shoot and kill the enemy FV215b without getting spotted.

Edited by hjorte, 11 November 2020 - 12:15 PM.

[hjorte]

TankkiPoju, on 11 November 2020 - 09:12 AM, said:

There is a bush on the other side.

You need to make it yourself.

 

I can spot that location from the nerfed bush. You can't do that from your preferred bush. But hey, I'm just a noob.