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[ZlatanArKung]

Since it was so highly asked for.

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

Lol no bias but the question about negative impact is open to 4 options compared to others.

 

Tip, you don't need to touch the answer count option, its default setting is one vote per question.

 

My english is kinda struggling for some reason...

[WingedArchon]

So whats different here compared to the other poll

[shikaka9]

WingedArchon, on 05 November 2020 - 12:42 PM, said:

So whats different here compared to the other poll

 

this is non-biased

[unhappy__bunny]

WingedArchon, on 05 November 2020 - 12:42 PM, said:

So whats different here compared to the other poll

 

shikaka9, on 05 November 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

 

this is non-biased

and highly asked for.

[BlackBloodBandit]

Didn't vote, because options don't fit my opinion.

[Steeleye_Spam]

it might not be biased, but it is limiting. For me gold ammo is a necessary and probably beneficial part of the game. However, it could be implemented better. That isn't really covered by your poll.

[AmphetamineLogic]

It needs a tweak, but I'm not too concerned about it.

 

I've said before that I think ammo selection should be a tactical skill decision rather than how many credits you have piled up, but I've gone weeks without using it and as I have no idea if anyone is using it against me, so I'm not overly bothered. 

 

Sure, not using it will affect my WR slightly as I'm more likely to to be killed in a MM+2 matchup, but the same goes for my not always using a repair kit when I've been tracked.

[ZlatanArKung]

BlackBloodBandit, on 05 November 2020 - 02:21 PM, said:

Didn't vote, because options don't fit my opinion.

What opinion do you have?

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Steeleye_Spam, on 05 November 2020 - 02:59 PM, said:

it might not be biased, but it is limiting. For me gold ammo is a necessary and probably beneficial part of the game. However, it could be implemented better. That isn't really covered by your poll.

You have positive impact on gameplay/enjoyment.

Dont apply to me. 

No change/some change or buff to premium ammo and armour layout.

 

Also, you can never have all players various opinions on their change as an option.

And we are really only interested in those who wants a change there anyway. So what is needed when checking how to change, we need a new poll.

This is more about wether players things it is positive or negative to their enjoyment or gameplay.

 

If alot of players believe premium ammo have a negative impact on their enjoyment and their gameplay, WG should look into ways to change it. If only a few thinks this, WG can ignore them.

Edited by ZlatanArKung, 05 November 2020 - 07:19 PM.

[BlackBloodBandit]

ZlatanArKung, on 05 November 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

What opinion do you have?

I think gold/premium ammo overall is bad for the game and also for my own experience. It was better when it was only "gold ammo", because it wasn't used a lot and mostly in Clan Wars. This does not take away the fact that there have come multiple unbalanced heavily armored tanks into the game, which (in the opinion of other people at least) creates the reason we 'need' it.

 

Personally I play with only a small amount of premium ammo and use it only against either tanks that I find clearly unbalanced, or in situations when people fire premium ammo at me and with that gain an unfair advantage over me in a 1 vs 1 fight. For me the game is about outplaying others with skill, not by pressing "2", and that is what my stats reflect. I probably would win more if I spammed more gold, but I don't care about that part.

[ZlatanArKung]

BlackBloodBandit, on 05 November 2020 - 07:24 PM, said:

I think gold/premium ammo overall is bad for the game and also for my own experience. It was better when it was only "gold ammo", because it wasn't used a lot and mostly in Clan Wars. This does not take away the fact that there have come multiple unbalanced heavily armored tanks into the game, which (in the opinion of other people at least) creates the reason we 'need' it.

 

Personally I play with only a small amount of premium ammo and use it only against either tanks that I find clearly unbalanced, or in situations when people fire premium ammo at me and with that gain an unfair advantage over me in a 1 vs 1 fight. For me the game is about outplaying others with skill, not by pressing "2", and that is what my stats reflect. I probably would win more if I spammed more gold, but I don't care about that part.

So you think premium ammo have a negative impact on your enjoyment and on gameplay, and you think some change to premium ammo and armoured tanks is needed?

[Pitulusu]

ZlatanArKung, on 05 November 2020 - 08:40 PM, said:

So you think premium ammo have a negative impact on your enjoyment and on gameplay, and you think some change to premium ammo and armoured tanks is needed?

Premium ammo has a negative impact against anyone who can't afford to use it. It's a p2w mechanism and anyone in this game knows that. Faster bullets, much better penetration, also highest percentage of critical hits.

Edited by Pitulusu, 06 November 2020 - 07:36 AM.

[BlackBloodBandit]

ZlatanArKung, on 05 November 2020 - 08:40 PM, said:

So you think premium ammo have a negative impact on your enjoyment and on gameplay, and you think some change to premium ammo and armoured tanks is needed?

Personally I think it was good how it was in the old days, but they won't change that back. A bit weird, actually, as spending gold cost real money, so WG made money with it. Not sure if they make money with it how it is now.

The proposed changes I have heard so far, won't have the right impact, like changing the alpha of premium shells, for example, as it will make overpowered tanks (based on armor) even stronger as you need more shells to take them out.

[Pitulusu]

BlackBloodBandit, on 06 November 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Personally I think it was good how it was in the old days, but they won't change that back. A bit weird, actually, as spending gold cost real money, so WG made money with it. Not sure if they make money with it how it is now.

The proposed changes I have heard so far, won't have the right impact, like changing the alpha of premium shells, for example, as it will make overpowered tanks (based on armor) even stronger as you need more shells to take them out.

Man, it's not normal to pen HT frontal armor with LT... why all the armor then?

[Japualtah]

They need to take credits out of the economy.

If they make gold ammo less appealing, they will have to make kits and food more expensive.

Ready to pay 10k for a small kit and 30k for a large?

 

They don't have many levers on the economy TBH, and they have already started to improve some armor layouts to accommodate for gold ammo spam, so I think this poll is moot.

[Bulldog_Drummond]

Without premium ammo I wouldn't bother playing the game

Next poll please

[ZlatanArKung]

BlackBloodBandit, on 06 November 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Personally I think it was good how it was in the old days, but they won't change that back. A bit weird, actually, as spending gold cost real money, so WG made money with it. Not sure if they make money with it how it is now.

The proposed changes I have heard so far, won't have the right impact, like changing the alpha of premium shells, for example, as it will make overpowered tanks (based on armor) even stronger as you need more shells to take them out.

They changed due to p2w stuff I think.

 

But since then they have turned the game more into p2w then it was... so...

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Japualtah, on 06 November 2020 - 06:43 PM, said:

They need to take credits out of the economy.

If they make gold ammo less appealing, they will have to make kits and food more expensive.

Ready to pay 10k for a small kit and 30k for a large?

 

They don't have many levers on the economy TBH, and they have already started to improve some armor layouts to accommodate for gold ammo spam, so I think this poll is moot.

No, they dont have to. But they want to, since it will push players towards buying their products,  like premium time and premium tanks.

[BlackBloodBandit]

Pitulusu, on 06 November 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Man, it's not normal to pen HT frontal armor with LT... why all the armor then?

That's what I said, basically

[UserZer00]

BlackBloodBandit, on 06 November 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Personally I think it was good how it was in the old days, but they won't change that back. A bit weird, actually, as spending gold cost real money, so WG made money with it. Not sure if they make money with it how it is now.

The proposed changes I have heard so far, won't have the right impact, like changing the alpha of premium shells, for example, as it will make overpowered tanks (based on armor) even stronger as you need more shells to take them out.

If they put it back to the way it was then I'd make an additional change so that it can't be purchased with gold, only with actual cash.  A minor point, but then it could really be named the "pay to win" ammo instead of "premium" or "gold".

 

Still, as you said, they won't be going back to that method as they have gone too far "balancing" armor and guns around the "premium" ammo concept.  Something they never should have done in the 1st place (opinion).

 

I still like the game, but it does seem that every "adjustment", "improvement" or "quick fix" they add to the game brings it further and further away from the game I played at the start.  Some see this as good, some see it as bad, I just adapt and enjoy playing however I can with the current changes.

 

Would I like to see the return of slower pace games with fewer "over in 2 minutes" matches?  Sure. 

 

Is it really impacting the fun I have playing the game?  No.

 

However, keep in mind this is from a casual player who knows better than to try and go play at tier VIII-X and gets his enjoyment at tiers V-VII.

 

To each their own.

[Olias_0f_Sunhillow]

I am duty bound to fire premium ammo.