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[OdysseusKrieg]

Reversing speed: from 18km/h to 12 km/h
Rate of fire: from 4.17 rounds per minute to 3.67
Average damage per minute: from 2 043 to 1798
Average damage per minute with he shells: from 2 668 to 2349
Time to reload shells: 20.56 / 17.62 / from 14.39 seconds to 16.35
Aiming time: from 1.66 seconds to 1.96

Unless the armor is going to be t95/chieftain level this is gonna be a waste of free xp/time grinding,except for the collectors who like to have all the tanks,regardless if they are good or not.

 

[saxsan4]

good, it was too strong in its initial form 

[GodTank2]

now this looks straight up garbage. 16 secs for 490 alpha  dmg 

[24doom24]

there is video of a russian dude looking the rinoceronte with an in game armour inspector mod. The turret is about 270mm-280mm from the front. 

 

1800 dpm at tier is a yikes. I think that's the second worst DPM in tier 10 behind the Manticore. 

[OniichanSenpai]

Happening!!! Bruh those news are ancient.... nothing new.

[snowlywhite]

how could it be nerfed into the ground when it was already crap? I mean... crap is crap.

 

let me guess - 1.8k dpm is in one by one shot, eh? If you shoot more then one, you're what... 1.5k dpm? What a joke =)))

[Balc0ra]

24doom24, on 06 November 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

there is video of a russian dude looking the rinoceronte with an in game armour inspector mod. The turret is about 270mm-280mm from the front. 

 

Head-on? Because with that turret shape it will be strong on a ridgeline with -10 gun depression. It's why the Chieftain is strong as is. If so I can see why they did nerf it, as I did suspect it would be way too strong if it was a hull-down beast. 

 

If not, then yeah 1800 DPM is gonna be a bit daft if the armor doesn't work at even -10. 

[saxsan4]

GodTank2, on 06 November 2020 - 05:03 PM, said:

now this looks straight up garbage. 16 secs for 490 alpha  dmg 

why would you shoot 1 shot at a time?

 

you can shoot 2 shots for every 1 the enemy shoots

[shikaka9]

these evil supertesters ...

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

Balc0ra, on 06 November 2020 - 08:26 PM, said:

 

Head-on? Because with that turret shape it will be strong on a ridgeline with -10 gun depression. It's why the Chieftain is strong as is. If so I can see why they did nerf it, as I did suspect it would be way too strong if it was a hull-down beast. 

 

If not, then yeah 1800 DPM is gonna be a bit daft if the armor doesn't work at even -10. 

As long as gun is unplayable (and it is) it doesn't matter how much armor it will have.

[saxsan4]

BR33K1_PAWAH, on 06 November 2020 - 05:56 PM, said:

As long as gun is unplayable (and it is) it doesn't matter how much armor it will have.

defender works pretty well

[Truntea]

saxsan4, on 06 November 2020 - 06:57 PM, said:

defender works pretty well

 

Gun ain't too bad on that one though, for the way it is played at that tier.

[GodTank2]

saxsan4, on 06 November 2020 - 08:26 PM, said:

why would you shoot 1 shot at a time?

 

you can shoot 2 shots for every 1 the enemy shoots

Because i dont want the reload to go from 16 sec per shot to 20 secs

[Desyatnik_Pansy]

saxsan4, on 06 November 2020 - 05:26 PM, said:

you can shoot 2 shots for every 1 the enemy shoots

 

You roll up and double-tap someone, but then you have a 34s (base stats) reload for 980 Alpha, or about 18s for 490 If you decide the fire the second shell again (and God forbid you choose to fire all 3). Pretty terrible when you consider same alpha tanks like the 277 Have a base of 12s or the WZ 5A With 10.7, and both of those can mount Rammers to help push those reloads down. You certainly won't be shooting 2 For every 1 Unless you back out of engagements constantly and while I think the turret front armour is pretty solid, I don't think it'll hold up all too well against HEAT Or HE Splashing into the hull roof. We'll have to see, but I do think they're kinda killing the tank before they've even released it.

[LethalWalou]

This is its 2nd ST iteration, right? I think this is them testing the crappy end of the balance while the previous might've been the higher end, the end results being somewhere in the middle of the two.

[GalmTwo]

Those were needed changes. Italian autoreloaders are NOT DPM machines, their trump card is the flexibility. 

[OdysseusKrieg]

LethalWalou, on 06 November 2020 - 07:37 PM, said:

This is its 2nd ST iteration, right?

No,it is the 3rd one.

[24doom24]

Balc0ra, on 06 November 2020 - 05:26 PM, said:

 

Head-on? Because with that turret shape it will be strong on a ridgeline with -10 gun depression. It's why the Chieftain is strong as is. If so I can see why they did nerf it, as I did suspect it would be way too strong if it was a hull-down beast. 

 

If not, then yeah 1800 DPM is gonna be a bit daft if the armor doesn't work at even -10. 

yeah it was head on, on those angled plates either side of the gun

Edited by 24doom24, 06 November 2020 - 08:35 PM.

[Inappropriate_noob]

Why the surprise, look at the 50 TP, that was nerfed pre launch and sold as the new Defender, yeah right, a Defender that can be penned anywhere, wasn't Russian thats why. WG just like to tease al you guys with juicy looking new tanks.

 

 

Then out comes the nerfbat, lol.

[TK_Lefefes_4fun]

As it is now, it's worst t10 heavy, if not tank as a whole.