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baratoz1701 #1 Posted 08 November 2020 - 10:34 AM

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Err where is the fuel tank on a 121? everywhere?? Got penned by a 704 through upper plate straight on and that set me on fire. Not even a lower plate shot. Does this happen to others?

lord_chipmonk #2 Posted 08 November 2020 - 10:43 AM

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You've played the other Chinese meds, right? They're fuel tanks wrapped in ammo racks and with the crew glued onto the outside. Erm, the following link should show module locations for you. 

 

http://wotinspector....les&platform=pc



Marco_Is_Legend2019 #3 Posted 08 November 2020 - 10:49 AM

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That orange thing behind the upper plate on the right is the fuel tank.

 

 

The red block next to it is the driver so large calibre shells penetrating the upper plate will probably kill the driver or damage/destroy the fuel tanks. In real life the fuel tanks were supposed to provide an extra layer of armour to protect the ammo rack. In WOT they just burn. And a lot of Soviet and Chinese tanks have this arrangement.


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lord_chipmonk #4 Posted 08 November 2020 - 10:51 AM

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View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 10:49 AM, said:

That orange thing behind the upper plate on the right is the fuel tank.

 

 

The red block next to it is the driver so large calibre shells penetrating the upper plate will probably kill the driver or damage/destroy the fuel tanks. In real life the fuel tanks were supposed to provide an extra layer of armour to protect the ammo rack. In WOT they just burn. And a lot or Soviet and Chinese tanks have this arrangement.

 Not as bad as the old german frontal transmission used to be!



Marco_Is_Legend2019 #5 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:13 AM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 November 2020 - 10:51 AM, said:

 Not as bad as the old german frontal transmission used to be!

 

I blame Mr. Zaloga and poor game logic for this.

 

Panther vs Sherman: Battle of the Bulge 1944

The Panther had a poor reputation regarding fire safety among German tank crews due to the fire hazard of the hydraulic fluid used in the transmission, fuel leaks in the complicated fuel cell linkage and fires caused by engine back blast, but its excellent armor reduced the likelihood that it would be penetrated in tank combat.



lord_chipmonk #6 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:18 AM

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View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 11:13 AM, said:

I blame Mr. Zaloga and poor game logic for this.

 

I'd place more of the blame at WG's feet than Zaloga's.



Marco_Is_Legend2019 #7 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:34 AM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 November 2020 - 11:18 AM, said:

I'd place more of the blame at WG's feet than Zaloga's.

 

Frankly I couldn't care less about some issue from 4-5 years ago but you do you.



lord_chipmonk #8 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:46 AM

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I only mentioned it as another example where a tank, or series of tanks, suffered particularly. WG changed it, it is no big issue. You started attributing causes for it, I joined in. That's typically how conversations work...



Marco_Is_Legend2019 #9 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:51 AM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 November 2020 - 11:46 AM, said:

I only mentioned it as another example where a tank, or series of tanks, suffered particularly. WG changed it, it is no big issue. You started attributing causes for it, I joined in. That's typically how conversations work...

 

And that's how it ran its course. In this case, both sides have nothing more to contribute. I am sure you noticed that. Would you like me to agree with you some more?


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lord_chipmonk #10 Posted 08 November 2020 - 11:59 AM

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View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 11:51 AM, said:

And that's how it ran its course. In this case, both sides have nothing more to contribute. I am sure you noticed that.

 

Yep, which is why what followed seemed odd to me. 

 

View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 11:34 AM, said:

Frankly I couldn't care less about some issue from 4-5 years ago but you do you.

 

Meh, either way, hope the OP finds the info helpful.



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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 November 2020 - 11:59 AM, said:

Yep, which is why what followed seemed odd to me.

 

I am not sure what you mean by 'what followed'. It looks to me like a friendly chat about something that was in the game several years ago with a bit of history.



lord_chipmonk #12 Posted 08 November 2020 - 12:06 PM

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View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 12:04 PM, said:

I am not sure what you mean by 'what followed'. It looks to me like a friendly chat about something that was in the game several years ago with a bit of history.

 

I might have read too much into it, but it sounded like you started complaining about the conversation and my participation in it. I may have got to wrong impression though. 


Edited by lord_chipmonk, 08 November 2020 - 12:06 PM.


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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 November 2020 - 12:06 PM, said:

I might have read too much into it, but it sounded like you started complaining about the conversation and my participation in it. I may have got to wrong impression though. 

 

No problem.



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View Postbaratoz1701, on 08 November 2020 - 09:34 AM, said:

Err where is the fuel tank on a 121? everywhere?? Got penned by a 704 through upper plate straight on and that set me on fire. Not even a lower plate shot. Does this happen to others?

what eq are you using?



tank276 #15 Posted 08 November 2020 - 02:38 PM

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View Postbaratoz1701, on 08 November 2020 - 09:34 AM, said:

Err where is the fuel tank on a 121? everywhere?? Got penned by a 704 through upper plate straight on and that set me on fire. Not even a lower plate shot. Does this happen to others?


Its a common problem, but I think for all chinese tanks.

Auto fire extinguishers, try for fire exting. skill and maybe the directives too.



baratoz1701 #16 Posted 08 November 2020 - 07:10 PM

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View PostMarco_Is_Legend2019, on 08 November 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

That orange thing behind the upper plate on the right is the fuel tank.

 

 

The red block next to it is the driver so large calibre shells penetrating the upper plate will probably kill the driver or damage/destroy the fuel tanks. In real life the fuel tanks were supposed to provide an extra layer of armour to protect the ammo rack. In WOT they just burn. And a lot of Soviet and Chinese tanks have this arrangement.

Thanks for the info, yeah that sux but oh well.

 

Was running food, but using my type 59 crew so they have firefighting, sadly I didn't have enough hit points left to survive even the smaller fire



Lanrefni #17 Posted 08 November 2020 - 09:30 PM

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Being someone who has played the 121 alot, I can confirm that ammoracking is a pretty common problem.

Before equipment 2.0, I would try using wet ammoracks, while having safe stowage on my loader, but is no longer the case.

 






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