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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 09 November 2020 - 12:02 AM

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Is amx 50B worth purchasing?. The only suggestion that was given is if you go full apcr with that tank then it works well. Anyone that would like to throw light on that tank?.Coz I have huge creds issue so gota make good decision.

Firstcasuality #2 Posted 09 November 2020 - 12:08 AM

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I would say if you have to ask then no. It's hard tank to play and team dependent. It's pretty much opportunist tank. In most cases you are better off playing medium tank.

GalmTwo #3 Posted 09 November 2020 - 12:11 AM

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I think it plays like a huge lumbering medium. It's the polar opposite of the T57, if that makes any sense.

Lanrefni #4 Posted 09 November 2020 - 12:45 AM

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try not to play without gold.

its my only suggestion.



Obsessive_Compulsive #5 Posted 09 November 2020 - 06:08 AM

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Plays like a medium... hmmm you can try and take positions with mediums but chances are you will be spotted before the battle starts, view range is great but the camo not so much...

 

It is a highly mobile (slower than 277 HAHAHAHA) support platform, as long as you have solid cover and an escape route you can support whatever class of tank you like but it works best as a heavy support.

 


 



GodTank2 #6 Posted 09 November 2020 - 04:28 PM

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Its a very hard tank to play since its huge and has no armor whatsoever so you need to make very smart trades. Dont expect much if you are not a bit above average.

tank276 #7 Posted 09 November 2020 - 07:53 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 08 November 2020 - 11:02 PM, said:

Is amx 50B worth purchasing?. The only suggestion that was given is if you go full apcr with that tank then it works well. Anyone that would like to throw light on that tank?.Coz I have huge creds issue so gota make good decision.


Surely dont play it as a heavy. It has enough speed to change flanks if the need arises and a pretty good auto cannon.

What other options do you have buying of tier 10s since you are low on credits?



Lanrefni #8 Posted 09 November 2020 - 07:56 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 09 November 2020 - 05:28 PM, said:

Its a very hard tank to play since its huge and has no armor whatsoever so you need to make very smart trades. Dont expect much if you are not a bit above average.

to be fair, it's UFP works magic on anyone who autoaims it.

bu otherwise, yes, paper.



Infryndiira #9 Posted 09 November 2020 - 08:04 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 09 November 2020 - 01:02 AM, said:

Is amx 50B worth purchasing?. The only suggestion that was given is if you go full apcr with that tank then it works well. Anyone that would like to throw light on that tank?.Coz I have huge creds issue so gota make good decision.


I'm having a blast with it. Although I carry five clips of APCR, I can't remember a single instance I needed it, as the base AP rounds have 257 mm penetration, more than enough for most targets you face. The way I play it is to try and either support real heavies or flank where possible - its top speed of 65 km/h might be a bit misleading, but it can easily reach speeds of 50-60 km/h on flat terrain, and its turning ability is pretty decent for a heavy tank.



FizzleMcSnizzle #10 Posted 09 November 2020 - 09:08 PM

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I kinda enjoy it... but it is so much obviously better firing full gold, that it is is one of the most blatant pay-to-win (or do better, if you prefer) tanks in the game. Can't see how anything other than a top player could avoid bankrupting himself in it, even with premium account.

Infryndiira #11 Posted 09 November 2020 - 09:17 PM

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View PostFizzleMcSnizzle, on 09 November 2020 - 10:08 PM, said:

I kinda enjoy it... but it is so much obviously better firing full gold, that it is is one of the most blatant pay-to-win (or do better, if you prefer) tanks in the game. Can't see how anything other than a top player could avoid bankrupting himself in it, even with premium account.


Isn't that true for almost all tanks, however? What stops you from loading full gold in an IS-7 or a JPz E 100? Gold rounds are almost always better than standard in everything but cost.



hasnainrakha57 #12 Posted 10 November 2020 - 12:49 AM

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View PostInfryndiira, on 09 November 2020 - 08:17 PM, said:


Isn't that true for almost all tanks, however? What stops you from loading full gold in an IS-7 or a JPz E 100? Gold rounds are almost always better than standard in everything but cost.

Ya you are right but here we are talking about magazine that take 25 sec to relode. What would you do if heavily armored target appears relode in front of it for 25sec or put 4gold rounds into it?

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View Posttank276, on 09 November 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:


Surely dont play it as a heavy. It has enough speed to change flanks if the need arises and a pretty good auto cannon.

What other options do you have buying of tier 10s since you are low on credits?

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Infryndiira #13 Posted 10 November 2020 - 01:17 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 10 November 2020 - 01:49 AM, said:

Ya you are right but here we are talking about magazine that take 25 sec to relode. What would you do if heavily armored target appears relode in front of it for 25sec or put 4gold rounds into it?

I try to control what tanks I will be facing when I have such reloads; especially in the AMX 50B.

 

There's no reason to go play with the side-scraping heavies because not only do you get a smaller chance of penetration against certain targets but you also will be trading your 1600 damage (over 7,5 seconds, assuming all four shots hit and penetrate) for at least one return shot (and many of these big bad heavies can slap you for up to 750 damage in return, each).

 

On the other hand, if you show up from their side or rear, you can clip them much more safely while also having far easier shots; and that's for heavies. Medium and light tanks are a lot more vulnerable to your gun (even the 257 mm penetration that basic rounds offer) with lower health pools; allowing you to delete one or more tanks for your ~30s reload.



scouse_in_the_house #14 Posted 10 November 2020 - 12:26 PM

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Has anyone tried it with grousers, I tried with just the turbo but could not get it to 60 reliably let alone 69.

Think VS turbo grousers plus gas might get it to 69, would be a beast zooming round faster than many lights.

Famepackexe #15 Posted 10 November 2020 - 02:21 PM

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I was thinking of getting it but tier 10 mm is not fun anymore so i play mostly tier 8,9 atm 

fwhaatpiraat #16 Posted 10 November 2020 - 02:24 PM

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If I want to play a mobile tank with a clip I play my Batchat (or would get the TVP or something like that). The 50B is massive, has no camo or much armor and struggles when facing heavy tanks.

 

Edit: the 50B had its niche when tanks like 430U, 277, 60TP, Progetto and TVP didn't exist. When the IS7 had dogpoo gun handling, mobility (not top speed) barely better than the E100 and less hp. When the 113 haven't received buffs yet and when the FV215b was considered a nice (but niche) tank. The 50B is not what it used to be.


Edited by fwhaatpiraat, 10 November 2020 - 02:41 PM.


LethalWalou #17 Posted 10 November 2020 - 02:28 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 09 November 2020 - 11:49 PM, said:

Ya you are right but here we are talking about magazine that take 25 sec to relode. What would you do if heavily armored target appears relode in front of it for 25sec or put 4gold rounds into it?

 

This is the rather lazy way to look at it. If you don't even challenge yourself to think what you could do in such situation, you're never going to find out what to do and you will always rely on gold ammo. ''Why bother learning/thinking when I can just load gold'' is the general attitude.



Pandabird #18 Posted 10 November 2020 - 02:39 PM

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Bought it and put a spall liner on it for the lols.

 

Funny enough it actually works, people do try to spam HE against it in hopes of penning, making you take very little damage compared to their AP.

 

Holds up well when baiting arty fire as well



Marlekin #19 Posted 10 November 2020 - 02:47 PM

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Unpopulair opinion: 

The 50B is not worth it. Maps are not designed for huge, autoloader heavies with long reload intervals. By playing a 50B you are essentially robbing your team of one heavy tank that would fit the traditional role as your team would expect a heavy to behave. Because of this one odd heavy tank, everyone needs to adapt their gameplay just so you can do things your way. If thats not french, I dont know what is. 

A TVP, tier 9 or 10, would probably make more sense if you want a faster autoloader tank. 

Infryndiira #20 Posted 10 November 2020 - 05:18 PM

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View Postscouse_in_the_house, on 10 November 2020 - 01:26 PM, said:

Has anyone tried it with grousers, I tried with just the turbo but could not get it to 60 reliably let alone 69.

Think VS turbo grousers plus gas might get it to 69, would be a beast zooming round faster than many lights.


The idea did tempt me for a while but ultimately I chose to go for Vents, Vstab and IRM for the sake of improving gun handling (mainly for the sake of efficient clipping) and reload time. I find the AMX 50B's mobility adequate, but I'm still considering the possibility of Vents, Vstab, and either Turbo or Grousers.






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