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Poll: Rigged? (33 members have cast votes)

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Is this game being rigged?

  1. Yes (13 votes [39.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.39%

  2. No (20 votes [60.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.61%

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GrimJoker777 #1 Posted 10 November 2020 - 09:27 AM

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With the meta of 3-5 minute matches, I think it is pretty obvious too.

 

 

 

 



jabster #2 Posted 10 November 2020 - 09:36 AM

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Only Kellerman knows THE TRUTHtm.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 10 November 2020 - 09:41 AM

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I think a more interesting poll would be how many players fail to realise they are bad at pixel tanks and would prefer to believe in rigging than admit to it.

DaniulSims #4 Posted 10 November 2020 - 09:41 AM

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I congratulate Klaus' wit in finding himself a niche in the WoT YT community, but goddamn I wish that niche of idiots never existed in the first place.

Homer_J #5 Posted 10 November 2020 - 10:13 AM

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Moved to videos and streams.

WingedArchon #6 Posted 10 November 2020 - 10:20 AM

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I wish I could rig the game. Then I can complain about the game being rigged.

 



Balc0ra #7 Posted 10 November 2020 - 10:23 AM

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I mean seeing the Klaus video on top is enough to move on. The man won't even know basic game mechanics to figure out most stuff. HE overmatches, HEAT bouncing when he hit a gun or tracks. Or my favorite, he still thinks unspotted targets besides arty have tracers, thus why he died as they did see where he fired from. And yet he can figure stuff like this out from more advanced mechanics? 

 

View PostGrimJoker777, on 10 November 2020 - 09:27 AM, said:

With the meta of 3-5 minute matches, I think it is pretty obvious too.

 

And yet you and Klaus are still here. Well, Klaus is still here as he figured out the only way to get views on his content was tinfoil theory videos, so he gets something out of it. But I'm still amazed that his entire audience still plays the game too if they think that's how the game is. Why play a game you think works against you all the time? 


Edited by Balc0ra, 10 November 2020 - 10:27 AM.


misterslate #8 Posted 10 November 2020 - 10:58 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 November 2020 - 09:23 AM, said:

I mean seeing the Klaus video on top is enough to move on. The man won't even know basic game mechanics to figure out most stuff. HE overmatches, HEAT bouncing when he hit a gun or tracks. Or my favorite, he still thinks unspotted targets besides arty have tracers, thus why he died as they did see where he fired from. And yet he can figure stuff like this out from more advanced mechanics? 

 

 

And yet you and Klaus are still here. Well, Klaus is still here as he figured out the only way to get views on his content was tinfoil theory videos, so he gets something out of it. But I'm still amazed that his entire audience still plays the game too if they think that's how the game is. Why play a game you think works against you all the time? 

 

As Claus Kellerman mainly plays on the NA server, do you think he believes Donald Trump had his games rigged?



BR33K1_PAWAH #9 Posted 10 November 2020 - 11:12 AM

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Open your eyes, sheeple! :izmena:

GrimJoker777 #10 Posted 10 November 2020 - 11:36 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 November 2020 - 10:23 AM, said:

I mean seeing the Klaus video on top is enough to move on. The man won't even know basic game mechanics to figure out most stuff. HE overmatches, HEAT bouncing when he hit a gun or tracks. Or my favorite, he still thinks unspotted targets besides arty have tracers, thus why he died as they did see where he fired from. And yet he can figure stuff like this out from more advanced mechanics? 

 

 

And yet you and Klaus are still here. Well, Klaus is still here as he figured out the only way to get views on his content was tinfoil theory videos, so he gets something out of it. But I'm still amazed that his entire audience still plays the game too if they think that's how the game is. Why play a game you think works against you all the time? 

 

Doesn't matter how bad or good he is or why he does what he does, how you can counter his arguments?

The winning team has pen to shot ratio of about 80%, and the losing side always something about 20%, and there is no significant skill difference most of the time yet the matches are blazingly fast in the current state of the game. Everybody can write down the ratios after their own games, and after let say 10 matches let the maths speak.

 



Evilier_than_Skeletor #11 Posted 10 November 2020 - 12:08 PM

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Claus reads battle results like the devil reads the bible. First his team can't hit anything. Oh, there's a couple that did....SOVIET BIAS!! When hits aren't going his way it turns to penning shots. Several enemies have only penned half their shots, some of those being Soviet? We'll just ignore that. And this rigged session where he's determined to lose is 70% wins...

Homer_J #12 Posted 10 November 2020 - 12:14 PM

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View PostGrimJoker777, on 10 November 2020 - 10:36 AM, said:

 

Doesn't matter how bad or good he is or why he does what he does, how you can counter his arguments?

 

Tin foil hat theories with zero understanding of game mechanics are not "arguments".

 

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The winning team has pen to shot ratio of about 80%, and the losing side always something about 20%

So aiming better so you penetrate more often makes you win.  Wow, the revelations on this forum just flood in.



jabster #13 Posted 10 November 2020 - 12:41 PM

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View PostEvilier_than_Skeletor, on 10 November 2020 - 11:08 AM, said:

Claus reads battle results like the devil reads the bible. First his team can't hit anything. Oh, there's a couple that did....SOVIET BIAS!! When hits aren't going his way it turns to penning shots. Several enemies have only penned half their shots, some of those being Soviet? We'll just ignore that. And this rigged session where he's determined to lose is 70% wins...

 

My favourite one of his is when he's complaining about how the rigged RNG is making him miss shots so he lines up a shot and boldly says it's going to miss, oh it hits. Without skipping a beat, that's because his team are losing badly so they didn't rig that shot. You really can't argue with logic like that.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 10 November 2020 - 05:29 PM

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View Postjabster, on 10 November 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Without skipping a beat, that's because his team are losing badly so they didn't rig that shot. 

 

Which is odd when you think about it because if his team are already losing that "Dollars per Minute" algorithm of his should be kicking in to get it over with that much quicker.



Gruff_ #15 Posted 10 November 2020 - 05:31 PM

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rng the teamwith the most goals won the match who would have thought it

Ghoststalker #16 Posted 10 November 2020 - 11:38 PM

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It's called humour, yet people take him seriously. :rolleyes:

GrimJoker777 #17 Posted 11 November 2020 - 09:05 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 10 November 2020 - 12:14 PM, said:

So aiming better so you penetrate more often makes you win.  Wow, the revelations on this forum just flood in.

 

How can you aim better with the crosshair bigger than the screen? You mean like praying harder?

 



Glint4 #18 Posted 12 November 2020 - 01:01 PM

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Is he serious or just joking ?

ralesm1989 #19 Posted 12 November 2020 - 01:27 PM

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For example, I decided to grind some low tiers recently... Therefore, I asked WG to give me high win rate, since I am also moderator here in the forum, but I said I don't want anything less than 85 percent.

 

Of course, my wishes were completely fulfilled. Thanks, WG, I will serve you even better in the future. :trollface:

 



GrimJoker777 #20 Posted 12 November 2020 - 10:21 PM

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View Postralesm1989, on 12 November 2020 - 01:27 PM, said:

For example, I decided to grind some low tiers recently... Therefore, I asked WG to give me high win rate, since I am also moderator here in the forum, but I said I don't want anything less than 85 percent.

 

Of course, my wishes were completely fulfilled. Thanks, WG, I will serve you even better in the future. :trollface:

 

 

Okay, so you are some unicum, but there are also some common things about the unicums that can be related to you I guess:

 

- You play mostly meds and lights, if you do heavies then the ones with good mobility only (But match can't be started with everybody just selecting the same meta tanks).

 

- You are never grinding anything, never playing stock tanks, just training crews for gold, etc, (90% of my worst battles were played in the stocks tanks and with the crap crew, I think most of the regular players have the same).

 

- Half of your best tanks are premiums and despite extremely high WR you still don't have mastery on some of them (This can mean that MM is easier on you because with unicum skillset getting masteries should be EZ, but it also can be caused simply by un-favoring MM randomness).

 

- You are probably using a lot of premium rounds, gold-shaming not intended just every other unicum does it.

 

 

TLDR - it is not only the skills that make you unicum, but it is also a competitive attitude, and a lot of real monies invested so it is kinda unfair to compare your stats with the regular and casual players with almost no investments, and therefore, it adds nothing to the discussion about some shady algorithms being potentially used in the RNG.

 

I remember when the average match time wasn't 2 minutes long and when the average score wasn't 15-3, I think that devs simply couldn't get such results with statistically equal and random teams, so the only suspect is RNG. 

 

I wish we could just live in the entirely open-source world when you could check the source code of current releases of anything.


Edited by GrimJoker777, 12 November 2020 - 10:23 PM.





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