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Zmago5000 #1 Posted 28 November 2020 - 09:16 AM

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OK now we have 5 equipoment and only 3 slots:

1. Optics

2. Binocs

3. Camo Net

4. Low nouise exhaus system

5. Comanders vision system

 

I am confused now,..what 3 are best and would you use for:

1. Active scout like EBR or LTs

2. Passive scout like TDs or MTs

 

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undutchable80 #2 Posted 28 November 2020 - 09:33 AM

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I dont know if you can break it down by class, since even between LTs there are vast differences.

On my T8+ EBRs I have CVS, Vents and Optics since they are my active scouts.

For pure passive scouting, my ELC EVEN 90 has CVS, LNES and Optics.

My T92 has CVS, Vents and Turbo

My French tracked LTs I use as passive / active combo, so they go with Vents, Optics and Vstab.

My CHN LTs I use more as a dmg dealer so they go with the classic Optics, GR, Vstab loadout. 



jack_timber #3 Posted 28 November 2020 - 09:54 AM

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On the 'sneakier' TDs, UDES03 for instance, I dropped Rammer for LNES but kept Binos & Camo net. Works a treat.

gunslingerXXX #4 Posted 28 November 2020 - 10:27 AM

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There was a really helpfull thread here a just after eq. 2.0 launch where the various options were all calculated and compared in graphs. I'm not sure on all conclusions but I think to remember up to 445m viewrange the classic equipmemt was best, maybe someone else remembers the thread? 

StronkiTonki #5 Posted 28 November 2020 - 11:00 AM

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Active scout (EBR) is easy for me:
CVS on scout slot

Optics
Vents if you really want to maximize the view range. However, can be traded in for stabilizer if you want to be able to more reliably shoot things on the move.

 

Tracked scouts I spec depending on their firepower.
If they have decent enough firepower to impact the battle as a support tank by doing direct damage, I might take a rammer or stabilizer.

If their gun isn't really anything meaningful, I'll use either vents to minmax the viewrange or binos to get that extra bonus when passive scouting.

Oh and of course autoloaders can't mount rammers.

But generally speaking I still use CVS (On scout slot) + Optics at all times.

I never bother with camo nets or low noise exhaust, with the EVEN 90 maybe being the only exception where I would potentially increase the camo, because memes.

This is because camo can always be increased with bushes. They're basically free camo nets scattered around the map.

It's not really the same thing with view range. So I try to often max it as much as I can, rather than bothering with camo.

 

Lower tier scouts can't mount CVS, so it frees up an extra slot.
Optics go on the scouting slot, considering it's easier to abuse view range on lower tiers, I'm very likely to add binos to it as well.

Final slot again might be vents, rammer or stabilizers, depending on the firepower potential.


Edited by StronkiTonki, 28 November 2020 - 11:04 AM.


Strapps #6 Posted 28 November 2020 - 11:03 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 28 November 2020 - 08:33 AM, said:

For pure passive scouting, my ELC EVEN 90 has CVS, LNES and Optics.

 

Is LNES worth a slot on an EVEN 90? With my camo crew (BiA and camo at about 90%), I can park in a bush and remain unspotted until proxy range - does the increased camo while moving make that much of a difference?



azakow #7 Posted 28 November 2020 - 11:20 AM

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View PostZmago5000, on 28 November 2020 - 09:16 AM, said:

OK now we have 5 equipoment and only 3 slots:

1. Optics

2. Binocs

3. Camo Net

4. Low nouise exhaus system

5. Comanders vision system

 

I am confused now,..what 3 are best and would you use for:

1. Active scout like EBR or LTs

2. Passive scout like TDs or MTs

 

thanks

Have a read here about the CVS vs. Optics: http://forum.worldof...-investigation/

 

EBR or LT is like comparing apples and peaches. Looking at peaches you have some options driven by your playstyle. But we (and I assume you) know little about your playstyle when LTing.

Also sort your view on passive scouting and vehicle type.

I also assume you have limited knowledge about the spotting system, so have alook here: http://forum.worldof...t-part-1-and-2/

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View Postundutchable80, on 28 November 2020 - 09:33 AM, said:

I dont know if you can break it down by class, since even between LTs there are vast differences.

On my T8+ EBRs I have CVS, Vents and Optics since they are my active scouts.

For pure passive scouting, my ELC EVEN 90 has CVS, LNES and Optics.

My T92 has CVS, Vents and Turbo

My French tracked LTs I use as passive / active combo, so they go with Vents, Optics and Vstab.

My CHN LTs I use more as a dmg dealer so they go with the classic Optics, GR, Vstab loadout. 

Pure passive scouting is difficult and does not win matches.

Turbo is a wasted slot on any LT.

Active spotting on tracked LT means you receive an early garage ticket, hence it does not win matches.


Edited by azakow, 28 November 2020 - 02:24 PM.


LittleLara #8 Posted 28 November 2020 - 12:02 PM

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1. Optics you want on every LT.
2. You only want to use binos on really low tier LTs that can not get max VR otherwise.
3. I would not suggest the use of a camo net on any LT. (You should be safe inside a bush if you're passive spotting anyway).
4. I would not suggest the use of a low noise exhaust system on any LT. 
5. Commander Vision System I would only use on LTs that have really high VR without it anyway.

Tip: Vents also boost VR, pretty useful if you're almost at max VR.

Balc0ra #9 Posted 28 November 2020 - 01:30 PM

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I've been using Low noise exhaust system on one light only tbh. My ELC 90 has 50% + camo regardless now. So I've active spotted targets 250m away not getting spotted fairly often. Tho CVS, optics and vents are placed on most of my tier 8 lights atm, as most of them can't mount rammer, or even lack firepower for rammer etc to be of massive use. CVS, optics and rammer on the majority of my tier 9+ as they still favor bully/LT countering and scouting roles. Tho the 1390 still has CVS, optics and vents. Binocs only appear on my mid to low tier scouts that can't even get close to 445 without it. 

 

Tho on my wheelies I've gone optics, vents & stabilizers on most of them inc the EBR 75. And CVS, optics and stabilizer on the tier 9. So they can still scout and do hit and runs well.   

 

Turbo I've only used on one light ever. The Setter as he was too slow to get anywhere early, and rammer or anything for the gun was wasted as nothing out of nothing is still nothing. So he had a pure passive build with a turbo in hopes to get to key spots before the enemy light got far enough up to spot him first.

 

 

 

 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 November 2020 - 12:30 PM, said:

Tho CVS, optics and vents are placed on most of my tier 8 lights atm, as most of them can't mount rammer, or even lack firepower for rammer etc to be of massive use. CVS, optics and rammer on the majority of my tier 9+ as they still favor bully/LT countering and scouting roles.

 

Do you use the special slot for CVS or optics? Or vents when you use them?

 

I really enjoy light tank gameplay but mine was always a more passive style and I'm struggling to adapt to equip2.0. I've no idea when I should be using CVS or how to play a more aggressive psuedo-medium role effectively in higher tiers. :(


Edited by Strapps, 28 November 2020 - 02:22 PM.


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View PostZmago5000, on 28 November 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

OK now we have 5 equipoment and only 3 slots:

1. Optics

2. Binocs

3. Camo Net

4. Low nouise exhaus system

5. Comanders vision system

 

I am confused now,..what 3 are best and would you use for:

1. Active scout like EBR or LTs

2. Passive scout like TDs or MTs

 

thanks

 

OP, probably easiest for us to help if you list a few tanks that you want to equip and explain your preferred playstyle for each.



azakow #12 Posted 28 November 2020 - 02:48 PM

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View PostStrapps, on 28 November 2020 - 02:22 PM, said:

 

Do you use the special slot for CVS or optics? Or vents when you use them?

 

I really enjoy light tank gameplay but mine was always a more passive style and I'm struggling to adapt to equip2.0. I've no idea when I should be using CVS or how to play a more aggressive psuedo-medium role effectively in higher tiers. :(

Optics in 1st slot, follow link CVS vs. Optics http://forum.worldof...-investigation/

 

I have CVS on GSOR only and it is put in 1st slot, coz the other modules are purple which will receive no increase when placed 1st slot.

GSOR is the only platform that benefits form maxed out vison, because you sacrify nothing else (i.e. fire power).

Other LT in my garage use LNES in 1st slot, i.e. T92 which has bounty Vents and Optics in the other slots.

There are also some dmg dealing LT like T-54 LW, RU 251 or M4190, which have Optics in 1st slot and rammer and vstab in the others + food. Light MT if you wish.

So the setup depends on the vehicles abilities and your playstyle on that vehicle.

IMO maxing vision on LT will only brings you half the way to success. The other half still is reliable dmg dealing.


Edited by azakow, 28 November 2020 - 02:57 PM.


Strapps #13 Posted 28 November 2020 - 03:19 PM

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View Postazakow, on 28 November 2020 - 01:48 PM, said:

Optics in 1st slot, follow link CVS vs. Optics http://forum.worldof...-investigation/

 

Thank you! That link is eye-opening (because vision systems, geddit???!!! Suit yerselves ...) and deserves a more in-depth read than the quick skim I just gave it in order to reply within a reasonable timeframe. I shall come back to that in due course and in the meantime I suspect it's probably best if I focus on playing other tanks for a while. :)



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View PostStrapps, on 28 November 2020 - 02:22 PM, said:

 

Do you use the special slot for CVS or optics? Or vents when you use them?

 

I really enjoy light tank gameplay but mine was always a more passive style and I'm struggling to adapt to equip2.0. I've no idea when I should be using CVS or how to play a more aggressive psuedo-medium role effectively in higher tiers. :(

 

Tbh, it depends on the tank. I got CVS on the tier 9's etc as their view range with optics is good enough for me. On some of the tier 8's I have optics on slot one to get the view range up to where I want it for me to feel CVS will be more effective. It's something you have to experiment with tbh to fit your style and goals more. As that's what equipment can be, to bump what you feel is lacking. 

 

As for vents? Never used it on slot one on any light. I have on mediums etc that don't even have a turbo. But if there is something that can actually use slot one vs a universal one like vents. I never use it, as the gain on view range is ofc less vs optics. And I don't feel the 11 DPM, 0.12% camo or 0.21 traverse on the T-54 light as an example is worth the trade for even 7m less view range. As on that tier, every meter counts to counter bush camo. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 28 November 2020 - 03:50 PM.


Strapps #15 Posted 28 November 2020 - 04:40 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 November 2020 - 02:48 PM, said:

Tbh, it depends on the tank. I got CVS on the tier 9's etc as their view range with optics is good enough for me. On some of the tier 8's I have optics on slot one to get the view range up to where I want it for me to feel CVS will be more effective. It's something you have to experiment with tbh to fit your style and goals more. As that's what equipment can be, to bump what you feel is lacking. 

 

As for vents? Never used it on slot one on any light. I have on mediums etc that don't even have a turbo. But if there is something that can actually use slot one vs a universal one like vents. I never use it, as the gain on view range is ofc less vs optics. And I don't feel the 11 DPM, 0.12% camo or 0.21 traverse on the T-54 light as an example is worth the trade for even 7m less view range. As on that tier, every meter counts to counter bush camo. 

 

Thank you!

 

Although this reply confirms that my issue with higher tier lights is what I suspected, a PEBKAC fault. Not knowing what equipment I should slot highlights my lack of knowledge and experience, I should have some clue of what to use on which tank after this many battles. Time to put up and shut up and earn that experience through doing. :honoring:






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