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[Reroll_Noob_DK]

Damn, I started to somehow play arty lines. Tried SU and didnt like them already at the beginning, cause pain in the [edited]. Than skipped to fv304, had a fun and so on. Than skipped to fv207...pile of poop? I dont know. When plaied low tier fv 304 battles, I found a lot of maps, which really fit well for artys. I mean, wasnt problem to find favorable spot and shot. Now....big tier battles...fck me well. 4 battles already....with 0 score. I am genuinely sucker at artys? Or really big tier maps arent soo favorable for artys that much. I know there are those open field maps, but kinda got those city type of maps already at first 4 battles and didnt nothing. Just nothing. Everyone was hiding and I basicly couldnt get a single normal shot. Ok, i got two...but they didnt do anything, cause went straight into VK100.01P front armor. 

 

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Soooo....any ides or suggestions how to play with these fatass artys? 

 

I cant stand still and I dont know, how to stand still. I am that kinda of player. I barely have trigger control xD

[gunslingerXXX]

Give it up, there is no fun in arty gameplay nor in receiving arty gameplay. Missions are not worth it, play WoT for fun is the best advise I can give you. 

[Reroll_Noob_DK]

gunslingerXXX, on 28 November 2020 - 11:19 PM, said:

Give it up, there is no fun in arty gameplay nor in receiving arty gameplay. Missions are not worth it, play WoT for fun is the best advise I can give you. 

Fun was with fv304, but after I took fv207, started to change my mind, cause....damn...barely can do anything. And if in battle shows up any arty, who somehow does huge ammount of damage, it is probably cause of a lot of standing still players. I guess. Cause...ok, arty has huuuuge range speaking about guns, but it is really hard to predict like 5 second gap between current opponent players position to its possible next position. But in draw distance...it is kinda hard to play without beeing spotted. Cause tank is huuuge and slow. Playin in and close than that draw distance could bring best results, but out of that range is really kinda hard to get any fun in these artys. One arty is totally no fun in high tier battles. 3 arties is actually a reasonable ammount of artys for high tier battles, cause atleast than artys can give rain of fire and decent support. But one arty with that reload time...fck me. Mostly battles are 7 to 8 min. Reload time is half minute+finding a player+aimin. Barely can make any shots I think That kinda struggles me. 

[Private_Miros]

While it does sound that some progress can be made in terms of skills (leading targets, predicting movement - basically you already need to be aimed at where your target will be when the shell will land by the time you reload), what you describe is generally just arty gameplay. You either hate it or accept that it's a way to play WoT while eating or doing other things that occupies one hand and can spare 10% or so brainpower to click.

[Reroll_Noob_DK]

specially, i think all those high tier games, if plaied with only one arty in each team, you basicly barely can make any changes in battle. cant make change way of battle. Felling already miserable

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Private_Miros, on 28 November 2020 - 11:36 PM, said:

While it does sound that some progress can be made in terms of skills (leading targets, predicting movement - basically you already need to be aimed at where your target will be when the shell will land by the time you reload), what you describe is generally just arty gameplay. You either hate it or accept that it's a way to play WoT while eating or doing other things that occupies one hand and can spare 10% or so brainpower to click.

Well at least it kinda doesnt make me want to smash something or blame something when everything goes to shiet, cause I am shiet with artys and artys only have huuge fire range and big derp guns and thats it. If everything goes down than ill be prepared for it.

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Maybe I am kinda bad with artys, cause I havent plaied a lot with artys and barely know, how to play with them. Same with meds and TDs. Ok, MEDs are good only with platoons, cause at least than you can be sure, than you can much more easily flank some big daddy on field. I usually play heavies and plaied lights ( only lt432 and type64, cause dang they are awesome ) on old acc.

 

I think it just a lot more diffirent gameplay. I sometimes try to find a spot, where I would hate to be shot by artys, but dang, than again terrain messes up all the chances to make possible. Real brainstorm 

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Yeah, and also trying to find a good spot aint no easy, cause there is those ebrs and a lot of other small spotting tanks. 

 

 

P.S. T10s battles are reall pain with T10 artys, cause I see pretty decent ammount of battles, where these wheelies, specially platoon ebr 105s, carries the game or distracts really good other team players.

[Reroll_Noob_DK]

Plaied couple of battles with fv207..and...I dont want anymore. Cause

 

 

1. stats are dropping

2. kinda boring high tier battles with these high tier artys

3. exp comes a looooooot more SLOOOOWER.

4. A lot of maps arent pretty favourable for arty gameplay. If all structures would be destroyable, than artys would fit in those urban maps. 

5. As these battles are randomly picked, you cant relay on teammates

6. Barely can make any changes when 1 or two artys in game. It is a rare thing to have such situation

7. If want to make changes in battle, than game should have 3 arties for sure. Otherwise no use of artys and really useless way to spend silver and free exp.

8. Also some maps seems to be too small for high tier artys, if there is light tanks faster with spotting than you can find a spot with arty and if that arc angle just simply doesnt allow to shoot over those buildings. In big maps, yes, sure, but small urban maps totally aint for artys. 

 

 

That is what I so far have collected in my mind about these artys. 

 

[Reroll_Noob_DK]

After 11 battles with fv207 I managed to make wn8 of barely over 9 and w/l ratio of barely over 27  

 

 

This literly doesnt make me want to keep playin this, cause yeah, that score and knowing that I barely can do something ( close to nothing ) with it on field. Just not worth it. 

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So...how I am supposed to finish arty missions without having headaches of  arty "usefulness"?

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I kinda want to get Obj260, but I am not totally into wasting millions of silvers and hours into artys, which takes the most of the time to get all the exp and missions done. 

[Private_Miros]

Reroll_Noob_DK, on 29 November 2020 - 12:01 AM, said:

So...how I am supposed to finish arty missions without having headaches of  arty "usefulness"?

 

Play M53/M55.

Edited by Private_Miros, 29 November 2020 - 01:04 AM.

[FrantisekBascovansky]

Just play mid tier arty for fun and high tier for campaigns.

High tiered SPGs, after long series of endless nerfs, are no longer significant in the battle. Most of them are useless junk, some are *just* insignificant. M53/M55 is the way to go for you.

[SovietBias]

Reroll_Noob_DK, on 28 November 2020 - 10:15 PM, said:

Damn, I started to somehow play arty lines. Tried SU and didnt like them already at the beginning, cause pain in the [edited]. Than skipped to fv304, had a fun and so on. Than skipped to fv207...pile of poop? I dont know. When plaied low tier fv 304 battles, I found a lot of maps, which really fit well for artys. I mean, wasnt problem to find favorable spot and shot. Now....big tier battles...fck me well. 4 battles already....with 0 score. I am genuinely sucker at artys? Or really big tier maps arent soo favorable for artys that much. I know there are those open field maps, but kinda got those city type of maps already at first 4 battles and didnt nothing. Just nothing. Everyone was hiding and I basicly couldnt get a single normal shot. Ok, i got two...but they didnt do anything, cause went straight into VK100.01P front armor. 

 

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Soooo....any ides or suggestions how to play with these fatass artys? 

 

I cant stand still and I dont know, how to stand still. I am that kinda of player. I barely have trigger control xD

 

There are a couple of gems: M53/55, M44, Conqueror GC. Tier 10 russian is not bad. But if you are playing artillery, you need to accept that you are more team dependant.

 

Also, some of them are very useful to complete missions. I breezed through most of the Alliance Obj279 missions with tier 9 British one with stock gun.

[spamhamstar]

Who woulda thought clicking on stuff could be so complicated.

[Gruff_]

Reroll_Noob_DK, on 28 November 2020 - 11:15 PM, said:

Damn, I started to somehow play arty lines. Tried SU and didnt like them already at the beginning, cause pain in the [edited]. Than skipped to fv304, had a fun and so on. Than skipped to fv207...pile of poop? I dont know. When plaied low tier fv 304 battles, I found a lot of maps, which really fit well for artys. I mean, wasnt problem to find favorable spot and shot. Now....big tier battles...fck me well. 4 battles already....with 0 score. I am genuinely sucker at artys? Or really big tier maps arent soo favorable for artys that much. I know there are those open field maps, but kinda got those city type of maps already at first 4 battles and didnt nothing. Just nothing. Everyone was hiding and I basicly couldnt get a single normal shot. Ok, i got two...but they didnt do anything, cause went straight into VK100.01P front armor. 

 

22:18 Added after 3 minute

Soooo....any ides or suggestions how to play with these fatass artys? 

 

I cant stand still and I dont know, how to stand still. I am that kinda of player. I barely have trigger control xD

fv207 sucks the cgc is worth it though, skip the others with blueprints / free xp

[ilmavarvas]

Your only problem here is the arty you play, FV is just bad. Tier 10 CGC is the best in British line, pretty much everything else in the line is kaku now.

 

As pointed out, M53/55 is the way to go in high tiers, also Russian 212A is pretty nice with its big splash.

[StronkiTonki]

Be patient with your shots. Try to recognize a pattern of how they move back and forth.

Also, you need to be aware of the map a lot more when playing big slow arties. Definitely make sure to move along with your team.

If you see a flank is about to fall, move to the flank where there's a lot of teammates.

If your team has won an entire flank, you can even move along and give the enemy some surprise shells from unusual arty angles.

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

Reroll_Noob_DK, on 28 November 2020 - 11:31 PM, said:

Fun was with fv304, but after I took fv207, started to change my mind, cause....damn...barely can do anything. And if in battle shows up any arty, who somehow does huge ammount of damage, it is probably cause of a lot of standing still players. I guess. Cause...ok, arty has huuuuge range speaking about guns, but it is really hard to predict like 5 second gap between current opponent players position to its possible next position. But in draw distance...it is kinda hard to play without beeing spotted. Cause tank is huuuge and slow. Playin in and close than that draw distance could bring best results, but out of that range is really kinda hard to get any fun in these artys. One arty is totally no fun in high tier battles. 3 arties is actually a reasonable ammount of artys for high tier battles, cause atleast than artys can give rain of fire and decent support. But one arty with that reload time...fck me. Mostly battles are 7 to 8 min. Reload time is half minute+finding a player+aimin. Barely can make any shots I think That kinda struggles me. 

 

There is a certain skill to playing arty well, much as the haters try to pretend that there isn't.

 

As you said, with a shell travel time of several seconds you need to be able to read and predict their movements well in advance. You need to know what they are most likely to do before they do.

 

Likewise with a reload upwards of 30seconds you need to think about where your shells are needed most. Anyone can spam shells into whatever is visible at the time but as arty you are in the unique position to be able to support any of your team mates on the map and if one flank is struggling you can make the enemy think twice about pushing or drop a shell as your team push to stun all the enemies in the area.

 

Lastly, learn to counter the enemy arty when you can. Your team will appreciate it tho its not often that you'll find you have a team that will mark them for you, but it doesn't hurt to ask them to at the start of the battle. Up to them after that.

 

Final advice, go for M53/55. There isn't an arty mission in the game that one can't do. 

Edited by NUKLEAR_SLUG, 29 November 2020 - 08:13 AM.

[jack_timber]

M44 can be great fun, give it a go but wait until fully aimed before firing.

When you get to T10 there is the option of getting GBs, this is where T92, CGC & GW can have a great time.

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

gunslingerXXX, on 29 November 2020 - 01:19 AM, said:

Give it up, there is no fun in arty gameplay nor in receiving arty gameplay. Missions are not worth it, play WoT for fun is the best advise I can give you. 

I've had a ton of fun yesterday with M53 and 261 - finally did War Gods with honors, got a Bombardier with sick double kill by setting JGPZ on fire.

 

Maybe you just not on the spectrum, so clicking is just not for you?

[gunslingerXXX]

BR33K1_PAWAH, on 29 November 2020 - 09:17 AM, said:

I've had a ton of fun yesterday with M53 and 261 - finally did War Gods with honors, got a Bombardier with sick double kill by setting JGPZ on fire.

 

Maybe you just not on the spectrum, so clicking is just not for you?

sure, but what were you doing in the meantime?

[krismorgan]

Brit arty sucks.i stopped at fv207.As said M53,ob261 are the ones to use for mobility and missions.

[Kothaar]

krismorgan, on 29 November 2020 - 11:09 AM, said:

Brit arty sucks.i stopped at fv207.As said M53,ob261 are the ones to use for mobility and missions.

The tier 10 Brit arty is one of the best in the game.