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[ziratulbihac]

Going solo, and your winrate is purely random,

 

Tier 8 MM

 

7 losses, 3 games with 3,5k dmg and still loosing

 

Random is Random, so is Winrate.

 

[jabster]

So when do you think it isn’t purely random?

[_Old_Spice_]

Understand you, Bud, had 2 days with good one - around 60%, today my time has come...37, but I’m gonna get it better, anyway, my advise play for MoE, I’m Ok with defeat when I did 4-5k , than victory with 2k... ( getting 2-nd mark with STB, and working marathon...)

[ziratulbihac]

jabster, on 01 December 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

So when do you think it isn’t purely random?

 

Just posting this to people who are saying: "Fix your winrate"

[saxsan4]

false, 

 

good players cant influence every game, but they influence more than bad players and will end up with a higher win rate

 

your sample size is too small to draw any proper data from

 

 

compare a bad players last 5000 games to a good players last 5000 games and you'll see clear patterns

[jabster]

ziratulbihac, on 01 December 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

 

Just posting this to people who are saying: "Fix your winrate"

So how do other people get say 60% win-rates yet you don’t if it’s purely random?

[guinty1]

saxsan4, on 01 December 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

false, 

 

good players cant influence every game, but they influence more than bad players and will end up with a higher win rate

 

your sample size is too small to draw any proper data from

 

 

compare a bad players last 5000 games to a good players last 5000 games and you'll see clear patterns

 

 

Mean ,medium and mode will always show the truth....

[Celution]

Such sample size, much wow.

 

For real though:

 

 

If you truly did 3,5k dmg on average for the other 7 games, even if you did 0 dmg on that single victory, your average would be still over 3k average. Your average is 2,1k so I call absolutely fake news and you should reconsider if you were actually as influential during the battles as you think you were.

 

Besides this, what most people don't ever seem to understand is that it's not only about how much damage you deal, but also when you deal it. Doing nothing for most of the game and then farming some damage when the game is already certain to be lost does not mean you're influential at all.

 

Edited by Celution, 01 December 2020 - 06:40 PM.

[Private_Miros]

In small battle amounts randomness plays a big role (though a worse player can lose than one or two more than turn a 1/8 or 2/12 session into an 8 or 12 loss session or that turn an 8/8 or 8/12 into a 7/8 or a 6/12), but over many battles solo randoms win rate in non-stock tanks is really the only true measure of player skill. It is the direct reflections of how your actions on average are good or bad to the team and their win chances.

[Balc0ra]

Because the team is more than just you. And with 14 other variables fighting 15 other variables that are not the same daily or fight to fight. It can give mixed results. It's why you have good days too. Or extremely good days. As some matches you would have won even if you were afk etc. 

 

But that might affect it some days and give you bad days etc. But in the long run the one consistent part of the MM will decide the overall WR more so than the randomness of it. The random part might give some a 0.8% difference after 10K games vs what they could have gotten. As I doubt no one has a 47% WR that should in reality be a 55% after 10K games. It's random, but not that random. 

[tank276]

ziratulbihac, on 01 December 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

 

Just posting this to people who are saying: "Fix your winrate"

Fix your winrate dude.

[fwhaatpiraat]

Fix your winrate.

[Carpaccio_]

Git gud.

[Steiner011]

Git guderer.

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

ziratulbihac, on 01 December 2020 - 06:14 PM, said:

Going solo, and your winrate is purely random,

 

If WR was truly random then for every day you won 60% of your games there would be the equivalent number of days where only win 40% of your games. This would mean that in the long run the WR of every player would inevitably average out to 50%.

 

Every player with a 50%+ WR therefore proves you're wrong. 

[BravelyRanAway]

ziratulbihac, on 01 December 2020 - 05:14 PM, said:

Going solo, and your winrate is purely random,

Are those the first times out on your own?

[FizzleMcSnizzle]

I have only ever played solo. Never been in a clan. The odd dynamic platoon aside, it'd just me. Sometimes wonder how I'd do if I had any friends

[250swb]

ziratulbihac, on 01 December 2020 - 05:14 PM, said:

Going solo, and your winrate is purely random,

 

Tier 8 MM

 

7 losses, 3 games with 3,5k dmg and still loosing

 

Random is Random, so is Winrate.

 

 

If it's random why only tell us when your WR is low? We'd all love to hear from you when it is high.

 

But that's never the point is it, when WR is low there are always 'other factors' at work. You'll win and lose and skill, or lack of it, always comes to the top, there is nothing random in the long run

Edited by 250swb, 01 December 2020 - 11:24 PM.

[Echotun]

Buy Fort Knox! Ive heard that will make you win every battle, even if you just sit munching on a box of crayons

[kaneloon]

Echotun, on 01 December 2020 - 10:41 PM, said:

Buy Fort Knox! Ive heard that will make you win every battle, even if you just sit munching on a box of crayons

 

A premium account is enough to have a nicer MM.

 

More seriously (tbh it's just to evade the forum snipers) I am always surprised to discover that my team won when I died early. I must then only believe in my skill to win a battle.