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[zemiacik2]

I know that WG doesn´t care about this, but I cannot understand this idiotism.
Why the hell can´t they NERF 279 (e), chiefatain and 907?
They say, that they dont want to change reward tanks, that it´s unfair.
But THEY´VE ALREADY DONE SO.
What about T-22 medium? Is it reward tank? YES Was it nerfed? YES
right now, there are over 20 000 players with chieftain or 279.
But it is getting even worse. More and more players with these will come. And with new italian reward tier 10 medium, it will be impossible to handle random battles.
Similar thing applies also to tier VIII. Theyre adding more and more overpowered tier VIII premiums. Why dont they NERF them all. They are afraid of what? They already nerfed few premium tanks (Type59). And in 10th anniversry videos they said that they nerfed it because keeping ingame balance is better. OBVIOUSLY THEY LIED.

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and DONT COMPLAIN about, only good players have these tanks. Winrate of those players is much lower than theri winrate on reward tanks. How is it even Possible?

Edited by zemiacik2, 06 December 2020 - 01:46 PM.

[L3gionaire]

Moved to Gameplay section since there's no connection with the Shooting and Penetration Mechanics topic

[UserZer00]

They are slowly moving towards a game style where only ramming damage will be possible, at this time they plan on changing the name of the game from World of Tanks to World of Bumper Cars.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm really looking forward to the map designs they implement once the change is fully in place.

[xx984]

279 and chief op I can agree with but 907? That’s where you lost me 

[Balc0ra]

zemiacik2, on 06 December 2020 - 01:45 PM, said:

What about T-22 medium? Is it reward tank? YES Was it nerfed? YES

 

Because most that got that tank cheated their way to it, unlike the 907 etc that people worked hard for. But even then the T-22 thought WG a lesson much as the T26E4 did once. And thus WG doesn't want to ruin it for those that actually did work for it. 

 

Thus as of now they are banned from ranked etc until they can figure out what exactly to do with them. Pleasing both you and the owners of it. Vs just making you happy and the owners of it mad. 

 

 

[TankkiPoju]

Balc0ra, on 06 December 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

Because most that got that tank cheated their way to it, unlike the 907 etc that people worked hard for. But even then the T-22 thought WG a lesson much as the T26E4 did once.

 

This would make sense...

 

Except random games have plenty of 47-48% players with Chieftains or 907s. Seems to me like most people got these by playing 5 games in CWs and then bidding bonds. Which is way easier than rigging T-22 back in the day.

 

Or they just got paid someone to play their account in CWs, which is also not exactly allowed.

Edited by TankkiPoju, 06 December 2020 - 02:26 PM.

[Rakii]

They could introduce tier XI. and move it there without nerfing it and do same thing for OP tier 8 premium vehicles (move them to tier 9).

Tier 8 and 9 shouldn´t fight with these vehicles and it could solve many problems.

[Balc0ra]

TankkiPoju, on 06 December 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:

 

This would make sense...

 

Except random games have plenty of 47-48% players with Chieftains or 907s. Seems to me like most people got these by playing 5 games in CWs and then bidding bonds. Which is way easier than rigging T-22 back in the day.

 

Or they just got paid someone to play their account in CWs, which is also not exactly allowed.

 

And that's why I made my 2nd point. The lesson learned by the outrage from those that did not cheat their way to the T-22 is most likely the reason why WG is hesitant this time to go full out on it and nerf it into oblivion. 

[Bulldog_Drummond]

Rakii, on 06 December 2020 - 01:30 PM, said:

They could introduce tier XI. and move it there without nerfing it and do same thing for OP tier 8 premium vehicles (move them to tier 9).

Tier 8 and 9 shouldn´t fight with these vehicles and it could solve many problems.

 

[DuncaN_101]

907 and impenetrable? Lol enough t9 and T10 tanks can pen this thing with standard ammo now.

T22 is such a unicorn in randoms thay I can't comment on it

[Chuwt]

Of course, one thing that trims these tanks down to size a bit is well handled friendly artillery....I

will get my coat...

[zemiacik2]

xx984, on 06 December 2020 - 01:53 PM, said:

279 and chief op I can agree with but 907? That’s where you lost me 

yes, I know that it´s nerf is not really that necessary, but remember of the tanks used on clan rivals. Mostly chieftains and 907s. Maybe if it wasn´t that strong, players wouldn´t pick it so often.

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Rakii, on 06 December 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

They could introduce tier XI. and move it there without nerfing it and do same thing for OP tier 8 premium vehicles (move them to tier 9).

Tier 8 and 9 shouldn´t fight with these vehicles and it could solve many problems.

it would be grat idea, but there are some problems (credit cost, experience cost, not enough modern tanks for all tank lines...

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DuncaN_101, on 06 December 2020 - 04:03 PM, said:

907 and impenetrable? Lol enough t9 and T10 tanks can pen this thing with standard ammo now.

T22 is such a unicorn in randoms thay I can't comment on it

907 nerf is not that necessary, but its way stronger than non reward vehicles (except EBR)

Edited by zemiacik2, 06 December 2020 - 09:08 PM.

[Carpaccio_]

What? You don't like Terminator minigame in WoT?

[Infryndiira]

If you spec Tier IX and X vehicles for accuracy, some can go below 0,3m; well below 0,3m in fact. For example, the Badger can reach 0,25-0,26 with Improved Aiming, Improved Ventilation and Food; or 0,27m with just Improved Ventilation. This accuracy can do a serious number on these impenetrable tanks, even at the tiny cupolas of the Fake Chieftain.

 

For others, with bigger guns, there's always HE. Especially if it's 150mm or larger in caliber.

[DuncaN_101]

zemiacik2, on 06 December 2020 - 09:07 PM, said:

907 nerf is not that necessary, but its way stronger than non reward vehicles (except EBR)

it's just as good as a normal ruski T10 med ... no better no worse really. if you think otherwise ... then that's fair but not fact

[jack_timber]

I find arty can be a great leveler when it comes to so called op tanks.

[zemiacik2]

Infryndiira, on 06 December 2020 - 10:46 PM, said:

If you spec Tier IX and X vehicles for accuracy, some can go below 0,3m; well below 0,3m in fact. For example, the Badger can reach 0,25-0,26 with Improved Aiming, Improved Ventilation and Food; or 0,27m with just Improved Ventilation. This accuracy can do a serious number on these impenetrable tanks, even at the tiny cupolas of the Fake Chieftain.

 

For others, with bigger guns, there's always HE. Especially if it's 150mm or larger in caliber.

But most of the tanks with HE cant trade with chief or 279, and aiming is not that easy, when you want to snapshot.

[WingedArchon]

For the Obj 279(e) a potential solution could be to make the front sprocket connector bars between the tracks a weakspot that can be targeted.

The tank would still be a hulldown beast but it would no longer be able to just charge with impunity because they would reveal their frontal weakspot.

[zemiacik2]

WingedArchon, on 07 December 2020 - 12:55 PM, said:

For the Obj 279(e) a potential solution could be to make the front sprocket connector bars between the tracks a weakspot that can be targeted.

The tank would still be a hulldown beast but it would no longer be able to just charge with impunity because they would reveal their frontal weakspot.

and make the chieftains cupola bigger could be a solution too.

[pihip]

zemiacik2, on 06 December 2020 - 01:45 PM, said:

only good players have these tanks

 

Tell that to the many blokes who bought account or paid services on eBay to get them tenks with €€€