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[Ice7_4]

There is no game in that. Just slaughter. It is always bad game for me if there is no game in it.

 

15-5 loose is either a gg.

 

I take 13-15 loose anytime over 15-1 win. In these times when most games are already won or lost in start, winrate has no meaning anymore. At least for me. I want good games, even games, fun games, close calls etc.

 

Sad to day, most games are bad games. That said, i still enjoy game enough to play it. It's like driving your old car which have served you a long time. Its not perfect, it has lot faulties, but you still dont want to change for new one.

 

Yet.

 

And i still got my arties i can play when normal tank play pisses off too much. No need to worry about bad teams or gold ammo.

 

 

 

 

[Balc0ra]

Depends, as they can still occur because of a move your team did early that confused the enemy, causing them to make bad moves to even yolo counter one target etc into his support lane. Losing guns fast. It's still a move that won the game early, and thus not valid for a GG? Vs if he stayed back and you had to dig them out slower losing more guns too etc just because it was a 13-15? 

[Private_Miros]

That depends on how the game went. If you stomp campers in the forest in Prohorovka and they never look like winning and it ends 15-11 is it a gg?

 

If you have a close slug on Kharkov or Airfield or Pilsen or Studzianki or 5 or 6 minutes, until a breakthrough is forged and the by now low HP enemy falls into a 15-5. Is it a bg?

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Ice7_4, on 06 December 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

And i still got my arties i can play when normal tank play pisses off too much. No need to worry about bad teams or gold ammo.

 

 

Errrr... in normal tanks you don't need to worry about bad teams, you can always do your part, whether your teams stomps the enemy, vice verse, or whether it's close. In arty you are far more dependent on good teams, both yours and the enemy, to be able to do something that matters.

[UrQuan]

Seems like a fairly normal result for a game with no respawns. Don't have much else to go off on, but generally, outcomes will snowball once a side has lost two or more tanks, as it is hard to recover (but not impossible). The more guns a team lacks, the harder it is to fight back, hence balancing teams doesn't stop snowballing or outcomes with large differences.

[Sacha]

UrQuan, on 06 December 2020 - 02:40 PM, said:

Seems like a fairly normal result for a game with no respawns. Don't have much else to go off on, but generally, outcomes will snowball once a side has lost two or more tanks, as it is hard to recover (but not impossible). The more guns a team lacks, the harder it is to fight back, hence balancing teams doesn't stop snowballing or outcomes with large differences.

It'd even say that the more the game is balance, the more this snowball effect will be important. If the game is perfectly balanced, in theory, one tank being killed means defeat of its team.

Now, taking into account the players' behavior and realistic factors, in practice this is not so absolute, but a slight disturbance can allow a team to take a great advantage.

[LethalWalou]

Ice7_4, on 06 December 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

There is no game in that. Just slaughter. It is always bad game for me if there is no game in it.

 

15-5 loose is either a gg.

 

I take 13-15 loose anytime over 15-1 win. In these times when most games are already won or lost in start, winrate has no meaning anymore. At least for me. I want good games, even games, fun games, close calls etc.

 

Sad to day, most games are bad games. That said, i still enjoy game enough to play it. It's like driving your old car which have served you a long time. Its not perfect, it has lot faulties, but you still dont want to change for new one.

 

Yet.

 

And i still got my arties i can play when normal tank play pisses off too much. No need to worry about bad teams or gold ammo.

 

 

So how exactly would you suggest them to ''fix'' the game to your liking?

[Bordhaw]

Ice7_4, on 06 December 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

winrate has no meaning anymore. At least for me. I want good games, even games, fun games, close calls etc.

 

Said by all 49% players.

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

Ice7_4, on 06 December 2020 - 05:30 PM, said:

There is no game in that. Just slaughter. It is always bad game for me if there is no game in it.

15-5 loose is either a gg.

I take 13-15 loose anytime over 15-1 win. In these times when most games are already won or lost in start, winrate has no meaning anymore. At least for me. I want good games, even games, fun games, close calls etc.

Sad to day, most games are bad games. That said, i still enjoy game enough to play it. It's like driving your old car which have served you a long time. Its not perfect, it has lot faulties, but you still dont want to change for new one.

Yet.

And i still got my arties i can play when normal tank play pisses off too much. No need to worry about bad teams or gold ammo.

That's all cool, but... arty is literally the most team-dependent class...

 

 

[Bulldog_Drummond]

A win is a win is a win.  (To paraphrase Major Smith in Where Eagles Dare, although he was talking about bullet holes)

Played 6, won 6 today.  Some very close games, some not.  Who cares?

[malachi6]

a scoreline cannot reveal much about a game.  It could be possible to have a 15-0 win where every surviving tank is on minimal hitpoints and the game hung in the balance for some time.  Whereas a 15-14 win could have been a boring game where everybody camped or everybody rushed into the open and no skill was involved in the indiscriminate shootout.

 

Also, individual experiences may vary.  A person could win or lose and still now they played well, contributed or had a good time.

[Gixxer66]

It's not loose - it's lose.

 

loose trousers, loose tooth,

 

lose a match, lose money

[m1x_angelico]

Ice7_4, on 06 December 2020 - 03:30 PM, said:

There is no game in that. Just slaughter. It is always bad game for me if there is no game in it.

15-5 loose is either a gg.

I take 13-15 loose anytime over 15-1 win. In these times when most games are already won or lost in start, winrate has no meaning anymore. At least for me. I want good games, even games, fun games, close calls etc.

Sad to day, most games are bad games. That said, i still enjoy game enough to play it. It's like driving your old car which have served you a long time. Its not perfect, it has lot faulties, but you still dont want to change for new one.

Yet.

And i still got my arties i can play when normal tank play pisses off too much. No need to worry about bad teams or gold ammo.

 

While I generally agree, I would just like to point out that the result is not proof of a bad match. E.g. Let us say 5 players of a bad team survive and are surronded by 13 barely damaged opponents (at that point 10 teammates are dead and 2 opponents). The outcome is most likely determined at that point. The other team realizes that and decides to yolo so they could make some dmg on the remaining 5 players. Due to this, the other team manages to kill 6 opponents.

 

The match ends with the result 15-8. Still, the match was still crap despite that results (not being 15-5 or less).

[Steiner011]

People dont know anymore what gg stands for.

 

In one of my battles today ( tier 10 - 3, tier 9 - 5, tier 8 - 7), 15-1 win after 4 mins , and pershing on my team with idk 0 dmg or 1 shot of dmg typed in chat "gg"  at the end. What was good game for him in all of this?

 

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[Robbie_T]

I miss those days also.... i remember 2015/2018 the game was more fun and more that you felled you done something to influence the game.

Nowadays its indeed steamroll (everybody just run too get some dmg in)

Or get steamrolled..and it go's so fast i litterly have seen during the marathon that some games where over in 4 min.....

And nothing you could do about it..game starts and its  people dying whole flanks get whiped out in 2 min...

 

[tajj7]

As other have said, it really depends, many a 15-6 is better than a 15-10 where you have spent 10 minutes digging out campers who just let the rest of their team down and gave up map control, games like are only close because there are so many broken positions for the campers to use, not because the gameplay was good.

 

Whereas you could have a 15-6 where the teams only lose 2-3 in the first 4-5 minutes until some brilliant teamplay creates the opening that wins the game. 

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

UrQuan, on 06 December 2020 - 05:40 PM, said:

Seems like a fairly normal result for a game with no respawns. 

They have no idea about the game they're playing - hence "steamrolls ree reeee" posts.

[kaneloon]

Gixxer66, on 06 December 2020 - 05:09 PM, said:

It's not loose - it's lose.

 

loose trousers, loose tooth,

 

lose a match, lose money

 

But as the english language always self-adapt, you know that one day the correct word will be "loose", right ?

[habar_name]

Totally agree. Winning is for losers.

[Rati_Festa]

I had an epic match yesterday in my 112, my team crumbled and we were down to 4 vs 8.... It came down to me vs 3. The enemy had an arty, Tiger II and a 247a, they were all on one shot I was on about 500hps... they bizarrely came at me 1 at a time ( gotta love those noobs ) and amazingly the arty came first and tried shotgunning me, missed. He got a nice HE round back, dead, TIger II next, we bounced each other twice, I switched to HE he switched to Gold... he penned 1 of his 2 shots... both mine did damage he was dead.

 

The 247a next... both of us on gold now snap shot he penned I bounced... lost but best game by far of the day.

[ProfessionalGoldSpammer]

Bordhaw, on 06 December 2020 - 03:48 PM, said:

 

Said by all 49% players.

Agree with you