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Community #1 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:00 AM

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Get to know the brand-new Italian Premium heavy tank with its unique loading mechanic.

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StronkiTonki #2 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:07 AM

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"Here's the Bisonte! Go gamble for it in our boxes! (Even though we will still deny that it's gambling and that we're incentivizing it!)"

tnxForBattleBro #3 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:22 AM

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ha ha ha keep dreaming WG - wallet closed since  2017.

Kazuya #4 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:23 AM

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Why smooth ride ???

0b3rst #5 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:26 AM

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[content removed] WG for putting it only in lootboxes and make people gamble for it.

Shame on you.

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gunslingerXXX #6 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:33 AM

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Disgusting way of communication WG. 

 


Edited by gunslingerXXX, 21 December 2020 - 12:41 PM.


Prosigoj #7 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:45 AM

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Every time I play this game I get unfriendly reminder why I absolutely should not throw money your way.

Dwigt #8 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:45 AM

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View PostStronkiTonki, on 21 December 2020 - 10:07 AM, said:

"Here's the Bisonte! Go gamble for it in our boxes! (Even though we will still deny that it's gambling and that we're incentivizing it!)"

 

View PostgunslingerXXX, on 21 December 2020 - 10:33 AM, said:

Disgusting WG. 

 

We have different ways of introducing new tanks to our game and you might like it or not but buying those tanks is still optional while you enjoy the free content that is available for everyone. 

if you disagree with the Large boxes concept then, you can wait and maybe get the tank at a later stage when if it will be available on the premium shop. Others might like to have it now and fill their garage with gold and goodies for the upcoming year. 



BackToGarageArtyNoob #9 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:49 AM

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Daily reminder NEVER BUY LOOT BOXES FOR A PREMIUM TANK.

 

The tank itself will be in sale anyway after some months.



DangerMouse #10 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:50 AM

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View PostDwigt, on 21 December 2020 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

We have different ways of introducing new tanks to our game and you might like it or not but buying those tanks is still optional while you enjoy the free content that is available for everyone. 

if you disagree with the Large boxes concept then, you can wait and maybe get the tank at a later stage when if it will be available on the premium shop. Others might like to have it now and fill their garage with gold and goodies for the upcoming year. 

 

Oh Come on Dwigt, buying the tank is not at all optional, there is no option to buy the tank, you can buy loot boxes and gamble on getting the tank, that is all. Suggesting anything else is just disingenuous!

 

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Gardar7 #11 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:53 AM

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The loot boxes are not selling very well, am I right? :D

_HakunaMatata_ #12 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:55 AM

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WG strategy always the same and people simply don't learn it.

 

Release a premium OP tank or TD, make people pay for it because it's good then later nerf it. Release another premium tank or TD and then make people buy it then nerf it.

 

Can't believe how this is not getting into peoples mind.



kovertjenko #13 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:56 AM

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Improved autoreloader?  HaHa!!!  This gun takes forever to reload, has bad gun handling so you need to take equipment and crew skills to make gun better.

I use vents, vert stabs and improved rotation device.

Best to use this tank ad a single shot vehicle that has extra shots available if the need arives, because youre dead if you use all 3 shots and you have no backup.

Armour wise the hull is crap, the turret is Ok but equal tier TDs can punch trough no problem with regular rounds.

This is a thinking man's tank that makes you constantly wonder if you should take an extra shot because you get punished hard if you miss or bounce.



HadurHun #14 Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:59 AM

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The box event was similar to last year. you gotta buy more boxes to get the best tank in the mix (Bisonte).

First 2 years were easy to get but now you gotta buy more. So unless you are selling it separate from the boxes, do not tell us how to play it!
We don't have it and we don't care. And those who do will DIE :P

0b3rst #15 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:01 AM

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Oh... post deleted by WG staff - prime guarding against voices for the disgusting idea of introducing new premium tanks.

Doesn't change the fact you prey on people's behavior.


Edited by 0b3rst, 21 December 2020 - 11:05 AM.


LordMatrix_ #16 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:03 AM

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I got this tank in the boxes and it's so underwhelming that I hate playing it. It feels like torture. DPM is terrible, full clip reload takes way too long for a heavy tank, penetration is low, gun handling is trash, turret armor isn't as good as the article says, hull armor is bad. If tech tree tanks are going to be as bad as this, they will be very unpopular, just like Polish mediums and British light tanks. Oh, and the new "Modified Autoreloading Mechanic" is pointless because your DPM is so low you cannot afford to shoot until you are fully loaded. The tank is bad and needs a buff, period.

StronkiTonki #17 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:06 AM

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View PostDwigt, on 21 December 2020 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

We have different ways of introducing new tanks to our game and you might like it or not but buying those tanks is still optional while you enjoy the free content that is available for everyone. 

if you disagree with the Large boxes concept then, you can wait and maybe get the tank at a later stage when if it will be available on the premium shop. Others might like to have it now and fill their garage with gold and goodies for the upcoming year. 

 

No, the tank is not "optional". There's no "option" to buy the tank seperately.

Although I was still lucky enough to get one, because I bought boxes in order to get gold for the upcoming Black Market.

Other people might not be interested in getting gold from the boxes, and if they want the Bisonte or any other new tank, they have no other "option" than to gamble for it.

 

You cannot possibly deny that WG are incentivizing people to gamble for it. It's a whole article showcasing the Bisonte, and a whole line of text says "Where to get it", with gigantic "PURCHASE" buttons right below it for lootboxes.

 

Yes, it's WG's freedom to do so, it's their game. However, it's the mere fact that everyone still keeps denying that it's gambling, while it's super clear that it's being incentivized.

Not to mention that your game should get proper regulations regardling gambling. The same kind of regulations that gambling sites have to obey

 

If you stop denying that it's gambling, and you start regulating the boxes, I'll have zero issues with them being in the game. Just stop with the BS "We're the good guys" attitude, and stop using the "it's optional" argument that has been debunked a million times.



Scanmen #18 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:08 AM

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View PostLordMatrix_, on 21 December 2020 - 11:03 AM, said:

I got this tank in the boxes and it's so underwhelming that I hate playing it. It feels like torture. DPM is terrible, full clip reload takes way too long for a heavy tank, penetration is low, gun handling is trash, turret armor isn't as good as the article says, hull armor is bad. If tech tree tanks are going to be as bad as this, they will be very unpopular, just like Polish mediums and British light tanks. Oh, and the new "Modified Autoreloading Mechanic" is pointless because your DPM is so low you cannot afford to shoot until you are fully loaded. The tank is bad and needs a buff, period.

 

Welcome to Trashonte C45 club. Enjoy the opportunities. ;)



StronkiTonki #19 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:09 AM

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View PostBackToGarageArtyNoob, on 21 December 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

Daily reminder NEVER BUY LOOT BOXES FOR A PREMIUM TANK.

 

The tank itself will be in sale anyway after some months.

 

Daily reminder: Don't use heroin. Don't use cocaine. etc etc.

People who are addicted will do it anyway.



teriaksu #20 Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:10 AM

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Go on, shake the box

 

Umm... no. 

Never buy boxes expecting to get the tank you want. 

It's like buying 75 PS5 boxes (  expecting to actually get a PS5 from one of the boxes) at 1/16th of the price of a PS5 box that actually has a PS5 in it.

 

I already got my gold worth from the boxes, so I'd rather wait for the GSOR/Bisonte to go on sale in the premium shop than to buy another box.  

 






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