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Get ready to discover the Platoon 2.0 system and its new player search functions!

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[Praetorias]

How about you focus on the following instead:

 

- NERF massively or remove EBRS

- buff tiger131/tiger and japanese tiger which are a joke when comes to armour.  The game does not do the iconic tank justice.

- Incorporate Mark of Excellence and Ace Tanker mods to give us a clue of what we need to do to achieve them...

Thanks

Edited by Praetorias, 20 January 2021 - 02:20 PM.

[wolfsrain]

My enthusiasm for this is....

[Gardar7]

This is a nice improvement, although I think there are other issues which should have deserved priority over this. 

[RedJester]

Praetorias, on 20 January 2021 - 01:19 PM, said:

How about you focus on the following instead:

 

- NERF massively or remove EBRS

- buff tiger131/tiger and japanese tiger which are a joke when comes to armour.  The game does not do the iconic tank justice.

- Incorporate Mark of Excellence and Ace Tanker mods to give us a clue of what we need to do to achieve them...

Thanks

Agree about clown cars but priority should be team balance.  Too many 3 minute games and 15-1 victory or defeat type games these days. 3 clown team mates dying in the first 30 seconds type scenarios. Mismatched teams, often one team has not just better players but better tanks than the other.

[General_Jack_D_Ripper]

This is a good thing.

 

Unlike crew 2.0

[Coltmagnum]

Thanks, WG, for fixing another problem nobody knew existed. Or is is an improvement nobody wanted? I get confused.

 

Don't listen (yea, right) to all the players demanding real solutions for real problems, just give us more dog tags and shop 3.0, also please invent  another currency, God forbids you make in-game gold useful.

[Aleksey_K]

So if somebody want to play in platoon .. if he dont have friends online have lots of choices .. for example channel "stronk platoons 2k +" or similar and can find and choice to play with players around his range

Why i need to search randoms ...

 

Like ppl up .. u have more important problems than platoons ... fix them first .. not these cosmetics things who nobody not ask

Edited by Aleksey_K, 20 January 2021 - 02:43 PM.

[Killtech]

This is insane. While it might be great at first glance it's terrible for the MM. You cannot allow for what is effectively skill MM to form platoon without having the MM being able to do proper skill MM for platoons (leaving it random for solo players). Like you are setting us up to get a lot of games where one team gets a unicorn platoon and this is "balanced" with a newbie fun platoon for the other team. Like 15:1 battles are so much fun...

And also great idea to discourage new players from playing. if they use this stupid feature they might even achieve below 35% WR without being able to understand why (yeah, u have to understand enough about statistics to calculate that... that said, are there actually none statisticians working at WG? like people that should know what they are doing??). 

 

here's the feedback from the test server:

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/761385-update-1111-ct1-platoon-20/page__pid__18308991#entry18308991

Edited by Killtech, 20 January 2021 - 03:07 PM.

[Horcan]

Just as usefull as a massage to a wooden leg. Wasted work time instead of making an anticheat, or fixing some decent MM without +2.

[Dazhbog]

WG and platoon,

I had a good day until i started platoont today.

10 losses in a row , all end in 15-3,  in less than 5 minutes.

WG and platoon totaly suck.

[BR33K1_PAWAH]

Nice

[shikaka9]

Pass ... I'll wait for Platoon 3.0

[_Old_Spice_]

I find this feature is useful
Firstly to find a platoon for a few battles to farm credits on prem tanks
And also to find =platoon mates for tier 10 battles

[Archon_Dark]

another useless thing like dogtags instead of focusing how to fix the game.

[Sturmi_0545]

Praetorias, on 20 January 2021 - 01:19 PM, said:

 

- Incorporate Mark of Excellence and Ace Tanker mods to give us a clue of what we need to do to achieve them...

 

plus: neither should damage caused with premium ammo count towards the MoE or Ace Tanker, nor should it reward any XP or credits. let tryhards compensate for their RL inadequacies somewhere else, pls.

 

PS: I love that all tanks of a platoon will be visible in the "garage", that's a cool and stylish feature. A pity that all the people I used to play with have abandoned the game long time ago for ... obvious gameplay flaws WG is unwilling to address.

Edited by Sturmi_0545, 20 January 2021 - 03:17 PM.

[Killtech]

Archon_Dark, on 20 January 2021 - 02:11 PM, said:

another useless thing like dogtags instead of focusing how to fix the game.

 

it's not useless. it's an important change to make the MM more unbalanced. probably to break the game more so WG can later sell they are fixing the game with later patches.

[Gorzki]

platoons need only 1 small tweak, there are two possible options

1. platoons play in separate, platoon only queue

2. there are no platoons at all

 

there, fixed it for ya

 

[Zamieszki]

Killtech, on 20 January 2021 - 02:45 PM, said:

You cannot allow for what is effectively skill MM to form platoon without having the MM being able to do proper skill MM for platoons (leaving it random for solo players). Like you are setting us up to get a lot of games where one team gets a unicorn platoon and this is "balanced" with a newbie fun platoon for the other team. Like 15:1 battles are so much fun...

And also great idea to discourage new players from playing. if they use this stupid feature they might even achieve below 35% WR without being able to understand why (yeah, u have to understand enough about statistics to calculate that... that said, are there actually none statisticians working at WG? like people that should know what they are doing??).

 

This new platoon interface changes absolutely nothing.

Players already tend to platoon with ppl of similar skill.

 

BTW you seem to forget that unicums are 1% of server population, so you won't be facing unicum platoons all the time, because there is not many of them playing at any given time.

Also unicums generally don't like to platoon with each other on randoms, because their dpg drops (and apart from that mm for platoons is not that great).

 

[Killtech]

Zamieszki, on 20 January 2021 - 02:25 PM, said:

This new platoon interface changes absolutely nothing.

Players already tend to platoon with ppl of similar skill.

 

BTW you seem to forget that unicums are 1% of server population, so you won't be facing unicum platoons all the time, because there is not many of them playing at any given time.

Also unicums generally don't like to platoon with each other on randoms, because their dpg drops (and apart from that mm for platoons is not that great).

 

Do your math. If unicums get a net 80%+ WR from this feature without needing to do much for it, this feature is the most attractive for them, while it's devastating to unskilled players. That feature is a statpadders wet dream actually or anyone that care for stats, like who doesn't want to win more often? Hence it will attract certain people to use this feature is a way that will impact the distribution of players platooning towards a very asymmetric one. That maximizes variance and given how MM balances platoons it the likelyhood of getting unevent teams rises. Add to that that this feature will make platoon more popular and you have huge effect onto the game. Sure, one needs a little of statistic understanding to figure this out but it's not too uninuitive behavior.

 

Honestly, for me it sounds like either i use this feature and platoon up, or the game will get massively worse for me. Yeah, guess what will it be for me? WG finally forced me to play platoons just to get a nice MM bias.

Edited by Killtech, 20 January 2021 - 03:36 PM.