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[1Stronk]

Last time I made a thread wondering what would happen to crews consisting of only females. I have tried the new system on the sandbox server and here is what I found:

 

First you manually convert your female crew 

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Upon conversion, none of the 4 girls are actually 'changed' into a commander for your crew. Instead you are given a free female commander which is pretty cool. 

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Commander:

 

Instructors:

 

The 4 girls turn into instructors, you are allowed to individually reassign them to a new nation aswell as change their certification

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You can swap out instructors for gold.. or wait 7 days! Instead of just letting us swap instructors for credits. Wargaming is implementing a paywall mechanic which is usually reserved for toxic mobile games  

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All in all good news for female crews though. 

Edited by Desyatnik_Pansy, 23 February 2021 - 06:14 PM.
I edited the spoilers to actually show the images rather than just Imgur links for convenience.

[DuncaN_101]

Well that's a load of my mind. tyvm for taking the time to look into this.

[Ceeb]

Dez just put up a vid on it.   pretty detailed to be fair.

 

 

[Geno1isme]

The important question: How much XP did your crew have before the conversion?

[NekoPuffer_PPP]

I...

 

I'm even more confused than before.

 

Instructors? Excuse me?

 

What about the actual crew? Is it multiple members or a single entity?

 

...sounds like way too big of a change, again - for something nobody asked for. IIRC the perks and skills just needed an update. This is like a complete U-turn taking a different line altogether. Why???

[Ceeb]

Also, what about the compensation to people that used gold to accelerate current crews

[AmphetamineLogic]

1Stronk, on 23 February 2021 - 01:36 PM, said:

Upon conversion, none of the 4 girls are actually 'changed' into a commander for your crew. Instead you are given a free female commander which is pretty cool. 

 

Yay! I like my commander's "Up and at 'em" far more than I ought to!

[1Stronk]

Geno1isme, on 23 February 2021 - 02:53 PM, said:

The important question: How much XP did your crew have before the conversion?

 

In the very first image you're able to see 2x 100% skill + 1x 90% skill on each crew member

In the new system this converts to 28 points for the new commander, which is 2x 10/10 skill + 1x 8/10 skill

 

In crew 1.0 your skills were spread out over 4 crew members, in crew 2.0 a single person has to train the newly available 25 skills.

 

https://i.imgur.com/NEDRofn.png

 

NekoPuffer_PPP, on 23 February 2021 - 02:53 PM, said:

What about the actual crew? Is it multiple members or a single entity?

 

Single entity 

Edited by 1Stronk, 23 February 2021 - 03:49 PM.

[eldrak]

And what if it's a mix of women and men?

I'm assuming the actual gender of the commander decides the gender of the new commander.

[kejmo]

Nice explanation, now, do you have an example for my crew (also females, but have 8 perks) ? What happens to the overXP i have on that crew ?

[_Old_Spice_]

Useful

[Evilier_than_Skeletor]

Too many moving parts... I'll just see what some number cruncher streamer does and do the same.

[qpranger]

I want to be instructed long time.

[NUKLEAR_SLUG]

Ceeb, on 23 February 2021 - 02:54 PM, said:

Also, what about the compensation to people that used gold to accelerate current crews

 

If you've used gold to accelerate your crew then all the additional XP you paid for gets combined into the single Commander XP so you haven't lost anything, it's still all there

[wsatnutter]

i've been on Eu1 and checked on my

AT2

60G FT

Pz1v H

 SU152 K

 

went to the sand box and did the training  it looks like horses for courses and in some cases better however 750 gold to train for another Tank  

still wait for a discount weekend   

 

P.S they had girl crews in the main

 

 

Edited by wsatnutter, 23 February 2021 - 04:39 PM.

[Infryndiira]

eldrak, on 23 February 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

And what if it's a mix of women and men?

I'm assuming the actual gender of the commander decides the gender of the new commander.

 

You can change the commander's gender seemingly freely through Personal Customisation now. It allows you to change their portrait (to male, female, or special such as Arengee Penetrael, George Patton etc) as well as name (if applicable; if you assign a Patton customisation you won't get to rename the commander).

 

wsatnutter, on 23 February 2021 - 05:38 PM, said:

i've been on Eu1 and checked on my

AT2

60G FT

Pz1v H

 SU152 K

 

went to the sand box and did the training  it looks like horses for courses and in some cases better however 750 gold to train for another Tank  

still wait for a discount weekend   

 

P.S they had girl crews in the main

 

 

 

Assigning a new tank works the exact same as retraining the existing one; which is very similar to Live:

• You can spend 750 gold to be trained at 100%, with no XP loss (Live: 200 gold per crewman).
• You can spend 500.000 credits to be trained at 90%, with 10% XP loss (Live: 20.000 credits per crewman).
• You can spend nothing to be trained at 70% (Live: depends on retraining, but assuming the same type it's a 20% penalty instead).

 

Credit retraining is certainly a nerf, as it raises costs significantly, but gold retraining is certainly cheaper than it used to be. Free retraining sucks, just like on live. Keep in mind that retraining for credits or for free will cost you XP, and thus reset your crew skills. This also applies when moving up tiers, eg. from the Panther at VII to the Panther II at VIII!

 

By the looks of it, if this is implemented there will be an initial impact in crew proficiency (if going for the 10% XP loss) or your gold savings (if using that) but on the long term there shouldn't be a dramatic difference from live. While credit retraining is now 5x more expensive (or more) you can now have three different vehicle proficiencies trained simultaneously, while also getting significant bonus experience with that crew thanks to Instructors (who give 10% to 20% bonus XP each). The XP loss should be more than negated with Instructors, even if the player lacks Premium Tanks to retrain with. For "small fry" crews with minimal perks and skills on Live, the impact is negligible to begin with; the only "big losers" in terms of XP will be highly trained crews with 4 or more skills.

Edited by Infryndiira, 23 February 2021 - 04:51 PM.

[24doom24]

too much. Too complicated. Crap conversion. Crap everything. I actually CBA going through every tank to recruit a new crew. Also my [edited]mirny crew got converted to skins wtf??? They had like 3 skills when recruited. 

Edited by 24doom24, 23 February 2021 - 04:51 PM.

[Infryndiira]

24doom24, on 23 February 2021 - 05:51 PM, said:

too much. Too complicated. Crap conversion. Crap everything. I actually CBA going through every tank to recruit a new crew. Also my [edited]mirny crew got converted to skins wtf??? They had like 3 skills when recruited. 

 

You should have received them as skins, instructors, and convertible crewmen to turn into a Commander.

[PHPer]

And here is another nice little trick.
Say you have a 6 man crew in your Tortoise with 5 skills.
Just before Crew 2.0 goes live. Buy 2 low tier tanks in the same line. For example the Valentine that have 3 crew members, and fill crew into it. ( 2 x 3 ) crew members.

When you convert the day after BUM, you have 2 crews with 5 skill exp, instead of 1.

Edited by PHPer, 23 February 2021 - 05:08 PM.

[Draakard]

Developer on twitch talking about us having fewer but very highly skilled crew setups for different types of playstyles.